Kate McCann launches New Campaign

Châtelaine wrote:To be frank: to me this is all bogus.
I'd like to have a bit more stats, I'd like to see a bit more what they do and achieve.
IMO this closely resembles Ernie Allen, who IIRC had to admit, that he reported a multitude of children, who weren't really missing :-(

Watching wrote:

Tony Bennett wrote:

Watching wrote:http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/kate-mccann-launches-new-campaign-to-get-one-million-people-signed-up-to-missing-chil.1400603074

The National Crime Agency - a national policing body above the Metropolitan Police, and which incorporates the former Child Exploitation and Online Protection Agency (CEOP) - has joined with the mother of murdered April Jones and mother of abducted Madeleine McCann in a nationwide, high profile campaign.

To promote an enhanced Child Rescue Alert system.

With the respected Missing People charity. 

With a target of one million signatures.

To all those who still think that Operation Grange will end up with any conclusion other than: 'Madeleine was taken by a wicked abductor'...

Do you still think so?

Agree, and the big bad abductor will have murdered her and buried her but they won't be able to find the body ...the end!  ( why else are we suddenly hearing 'maddie may not be alive. murder. digging?)

Clay Regazzoni wrote:

Watching wrote:
Chris Hedges, manager for Missing and Abducted Children at Ceop, part of the NCA, said: "It enables us to disseminate messages either at a very localised level or nationally quickly and effectively whenever there is a particularly highly endangered child we are trying to locate.

Imagine being this guy, being at a dinner party and being asked what you do.

Newintown wrote:

Watching wrote:

Tony Bennett wrote:

Watching wrote:http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/kate-mccann-launches-new-campaign-to-get-one-million-people-signed-up-to-missing-chil.1400603074

The National Crime Agency - a national policing body above the Metropolitan Police, and which incorporates the former Child Exploitation and Online Protection Agency (CEOP) - has joined with the mother of murdered April Jones and mother of abducted Madeleine McCann in a nationwide, high profile campaign.

To promote an enhanced Child Rescue Alert system.

With the respected Missing People charity. 

With a target of one million signatures.

To all those who still think that Operation Grange will end up with any conclusion other than: 'Madeleine was taken by a wicked abductor'...

Do you still think so?

Agree, and the big bad abductor will have murdered her and buried her but they won't be able to find the body ...the end!  ( why else are we suddenly hearing 'maddie may not be alive. murder. digging?)

But as mentioned many times on this forum, what happens if someone comes forward in the future and confesses everything or something.  SY or the PJ or whoever is going to have more than a lot of egg on their faces.

Mirage wrote:

Newintown wrote:

Watching wrote:

Tony Bennett wrote:

Watching wrote:http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/kate-mccann-launches-new-campaign-to-get-one-million-people-signed-up-to-missing-chil.1400603074

The National Crime Agency - a national policing body above the Metropolitan Police, and which incorporates the former Child Exploitation and Online Protection Agency (CEOP) - has joined with the mother of murdered April Jones and mother of abducted Madeleine McCann in a nationwide, high profile campaign.

To promote an enhanced Child Rescue Alert system.

With the respected Missing People charity. 

With a target of one million signatures.

To all those who still think that Operation Grange will end up with any conclusion other than: 'Madeleine was taken by a wicked abductor'...

Do you still think so?

Agree, and the big bad abductor will have murdered her and buried her but they won't be able to find the body ...the end!  ( why else are we suddenly hearing 'maddie may not be alive. murder. digging?)

But as mentioned many times on this forum, what happens if someone comes forward in the future and confesses everything or something.  SY or the PJ or whoever is going to have more than a lot of egg on their faces.

They'll still manage to Scramble it into something the public will swallow. The chief will only have to say: 'This couple have suffered for their mistake. Omeletting them go. It's not that they have been treated with any favouritism, we have not Coddled them in any way. We are compassionate people. Remember, we are a police service - not a force. In that respect no one can accuse us of being Hard-boiled. It's just that we have looked at two options and decided on Sunny-side up. That is not to say we won't Crack this in the future. We are Laying it on file. The whole case has been like walking on Egg Shells what with data we wanted from the PJ not easily Poached. We will keep an Albumen of all the dodgy photographs, of course.

Let me finish by saying Double yokers are rare in the criminal world, but where they arise they will be Beaten in the end. We will  never accept the Yoke has been entirely on us.

Thank you for allowing us to Whisk you into a froth of anticipation only to be let down by some very Bad Eggs.

Bon Appetit. Mind how you go."

kevmack wrote:Sorry, but can I just point out again that the article does not say that Madeleine was abducted...

aquila wrote:

Mirage wrote:

Newintown wrote:

Watching wrote:

Tony Bennett wrote:

Watching wrote:http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/kate-mccann-launches-new-campaign-to-get-one-million-people-signed-up-to-missing-chil.1400603074

The National Crime Agency - a national policing body above the Metropolitan Police, and which incorporates the former Child Exploitation and Online Protection Agency (CEOP) - has joined with the mother of murdered April Jones and mother of abducted Madeleine McCann in a nationwide, high profile campaign.

To promote an enhanced Child Rescue Alert system.

With the respected Missing People charity. 

With a target of one million signatures.

To all those who still think that Operation Grange will end up with any conclusion other than: 'Madeleine was taken by a wicked abductor'...

Do you still think so?

Agree, and the big bad abductor will have murdered her and buried her but they won't be able to find the body ...the end!  ( why else are we suddenly hearing 'maddie may not be alive. murder. digging?)

But as mentioned many times on this forum, what happens if someone comes forward in the future and confesses everything or something.  SY or the PJ or whoever is going to have more than a lot of egg on their faces.

They'll still manage to Scramble it into something the public will swallow. The chief will only have to say: 'This couple have suffered for their mistake. Omeletting them go. It's not that they have been treated with any favouritism, we have not Coddled them in any way. We are compassionate people. Remember, we are a police service - not a force. In that respect no one can accuse us of being Hard-boiled. It's just that we have looked at two options and decided on Sunny-side up. That is not to say we won't Crack this in the future. We are Laying it on file. The whole case has been like walking on Egg Shells what with data we wanted from the PJ not easily Poached. We will keep an Albumen of all the dodgy photographs, of course.

Let me finish by saying Double yokers are rare in the criminal world, but where they arise they will be Beaten in the end. We will  never accept the Yoke has been entirely on us.

Thank you for allowing us to Whisk you into a froth of anticipation only to be let down by some very Bad Eggs.

Bon Appetit. Mind how you go."

....and if you don't believe us well a few of the lads will come and have a chat in your shell like ears. Now stfu and do something for charity.

Tony Bennett wrote:

kevmack wrote:Sorry, but can I just point out again that the article does not say that Madeleine was abducted...

Yes, of course you can point this out again.

You can point it out again, once more, and a thousand times more after that.

It matters not a jot that the word 'abducted' was not actually used in the Herald article.

I will spell it out in more detail.

The script for the official British establishment narrative about Madeleine's disappearance was written on Day One - and has never changed.

Madeleine was abducted by an evil abductor.

Because that narrative will never change, and because that narrative has been endorsed by the British government, by the British establishment, by the Britiish media, by the British Prime Minister, by the ruling senior elite of the Metropolitan Police, by the Murdoch empire, and by many other members of 'the great and the good', it will be used time and again to promote certain things.

Safe in the knowledge that this narrative will never ever change, Missing People, Child Rescue Alert, the National Crime Agency and anybody and everybody who wants to can use the icon of 'missing Madeleine' to promote all manner of child alert, child safety and child rescue schemes.

The constant promotion of Madeleine's abduction in the media is a vital part of promoting and maintaining public perceptions about Madeleine.

That was the only reason behind the charade of the £1 million BBC CrimeWatch 'McCann Special', with talk of a 'revelation moment', eye-catching e-fits, and elaborate tales of 'sightings' and 'persons of interest'.

That has been the only reason behind the river of information put into the public domain, leaked or official, about this abductor and that abductor, this burglar and that burglar, and endless otherwise pointless statistics about lines of enquiry, actions, mobile 'phones to check, ILORs, suspects and so on.

And that was the only reason - as a perceptive Portuguese commentator pointed out recently - for the graphic photos and front page stories of Redwood and his men in Portugal in suits and with briefcases, and flights in a military helicopter.

Nothing more than a 36-hour photo opportunity at the taxpaayer's expense.

We have underestimated the sheer audacity of Operation Grange.

It is only sheer wishful thinking to believe that this super-glued official narrative should ever come apart.


[All IMO]

But as mentioned many times on this forum, what happens if someone comes forward in the future and confesses everything or something.  SY or the PJ or whoever is going to have more than a lot of egg on their faces.

mirage wrote:


They'll still manage to Scramble it into something the public will swallow. The chief will only have to say: 'This couple have suffered for their mistake. Omeletting them go. It's not that they have been treated with any favouritism, we have not Coddled them in any way. We are compassionate people. Remember, we are a police service - not a force. In that respect no one can accuse us of being Hard-boiled. It's just that we have looked at two options and decided on Sunny-side up. That is not to say we won't Crack this in the future. We are Laying it on file. The whole case has been like walking on Egg Shells what with data we wanted from the PJ not easily Poached. We will keep an Albumen of all the dodgy photographs, of course.

Let me finish by saying Double yokers are rare in the criminal world, but where they arise they will be Beaten in the end. We will  never accept the Yoke has been entirely on us.

Thank you for allowing us to Whisk you into a froth of anticipation only to be let down by some very Bad Eggs.

Bon Appetit. Mind how you go."

Tony Bennett wrote:

kevmack wrote:Sorry, but can I just point out again that the article does not say that Madeleine was abducted...

Yes, of course you can point this out again.

You can point it out again, once more, and a thousand times more after that.

It matters not a jot that the word 'abducted' was not actually used in the Herald article.

I will spell it out in more detail.

The script for the official British establishment narrative about Madeleine's disappearance was written on Day One - and has never changed.

Madeleine was abducted by an evil abductor.

Because that narrative will never change, and because that narrative has been endorsed by the British government, by the British establishment, by the Britiish media, by the British Prime Minister, by the ruling senior elite of the Metropolitan Police, by the Murdoch empire, and by many other members of 'the great and the good', it will be used time and again to promote certain things.

Safe in the knowledge that this narrative will never ever change, Missing People, Child Rescue Alert, the National Crime Agency and anybody and everybody who wants to can use the icon of 'missing Madeleine' to promote all manner of child alert, child safety and child rescue schemes.

The constant promotion of Madeleine's abduction in the media is a vital part of promoting and maintaining public perceptions about Madeleine.

That was the only reason behind the charade of the £1 million BBC CrimeWatch 'McCann Special', with talk of a 'revelation moment', eye-catching e-fits, and elaborate tales of 'sightings' and 'persons of interest'.

That has been the only reason behind the river of information put into the public domain, leaked or official, about this abductor and that abductor, this burglar and that burglar, and endless otherwise pointless statistics about lines of enquiry, actions, mobile 'phones to check, ILORs, suspects and so on.

And that was the only reason - as a perceptive Portuguese commentator pointed out recently - for the graphic photos and front page stories of Redwood and his men in Portugal in suits and with briefcases, and flights in a military helicopter.

Nothing more than a 36-hour photo opportunity at the taxpaayer's expense.

We have underestimated the sheer audacity of Operation Grange.

It is only sheer wishful thinking to believe that this super-glued official narrative should ever come apart.


[All IMO]

Ladyinred wrote:

Tony Bennett wrote:

I will spell it out in more detail.

The script for the official British establishment narrative about Madeleine's disappearance was written on Day One - and has never changed.

Madeleine was abducted by an evil abductor.

So, TB, are we all here wasting our time?

Watching wrote:

But as mentioned many times on this forum, what happens if someone comes forward in the future and confesses everything or something.  SY or the PJ or whoever is going to have more than a lot of egg on their faces.

mirage wrote:


They'll still manage to Scramble it into something the public will swallow. The chief will only have to say: 'This couple have suffered for their mistake. Omeletting them go. It's not that they have been treated with any favouritism, we have not Coddled them in any way. We are compassionate people. Remember, we are a police service - not a force. In that respect no one can accuse us of being Hard-boiled. It's just that we have looked at two options and decided on Sunny-side up. That is not to say we won't Crack this in the future. We are Laying it on file. The whole case has been like walking on Egg Shells what with data we wanted from the PJ not easily Poached. We will keep an Albumen of all the dodgy photographs, of course.

Let me finish by saying Double yokers are rare in the criminal world, but where they arise they will be Beaten in the end. We will  never accept the Yoke has been entirely on us.

Thank you for allowing us to Whisk you into a froth of anticipation only to be let down by some very Bad Eggs.

Bon Appetit. Mind how you go."

Very funny Mirage




          WON'T ASK YOU AGAIN, DCI REDWOOD FROM MET HERE, MOVE ALONG

kevmack wrote:
To be fair though Tony, it was the McCanns who have claimed abduction and the press went along with it.  I only made the point I did because you seemed to be quoting from the article, substituting the words missing and disappeared with abduction, claiming that is why you believe Grange will be a whitewash, when the article does not use the word abduction in relation to Madeleine at all.

I understand. It made no difference for me whether they said 'missing Madeleine' or 'abducted Madeleine'. It is simply the fact that the National Crime Agency (our top crime-fighting body) and Missing People and Child Rescue Alert all promoting Kate McCann to head up their latest campaign tells me, as it must surely tell everyone else, that the mantra 'Madeleine was abducted' is now set in the hardest of hard stone.   

I respect your opinion Tony, but at this point I don't agree with it, inasmuch that I don't believe Grange will be a whitewash...

This will probably come over to some as 'arrogant', but with equal respect to you, kevmack, I think my opinion on this issue has a great deal more evidence to support it than yours. I wish however that the evidence did not lead me to hold that opinion

Newintown wrote:

Watching wrote:

But as mentioned many times on this forum, what happens if someone comes forward in the future and confesses everything or something.  SY or the PJ or whoever is going to have more than a lot of egg on their faces.

mirage wrote:


They'll still manage to Scramble it into something the public will swallow. The chief will only have to say: 'This couple have suffered for their mistake. Omeletting them go. It's not that they have been treated with any favouritism, we have not Coddled them in any way. We are compassionate people. Remember, we are a police service - not a force. In that respect no one can accuse us of being Hard-boiled. It's just that we have looked at two options and decided on Sunny-side up. That is not to say we won't Crack this in the future. We are Laying it on file. The whole case has been like walking on Egg Shells what with data we wanted from the PJ not easily Poached. We will keep an Albumen of all the dodgy photographs, of course.

Let me finish by saying Double yokers are rare in the criminal world, but where they arise they will be Beaten in the end. We will  never accept the Yoke has been entirely on us.

Thank you for allowing us to Whisk you into a froth of anticipation only to be let down by some very Bad Eggs.

Bon Appetit. Mind how you go."

Very funny Mirage




          WON'T ASK YOU AGAIN, DCI REDWOOD FROM MET HERE, MOVE ALONG

Not very funny when we're talking about the death of a 3 year old child and the "maybe" cover up/disappearance of her body by the parents and or the Tapas 7.  What chance did Madeleine have against all these people who were more concerned in keeping their families/lifestyle together instead of telling the truth of what happened on 3 May 2007 and then carrying on with their lives for the past 7 years as if nothing happened.

A bit like Pistorius really saying he didn't mean to shoot Reeva, he was shooting at the door.  The fact that she was standing behind the door and took the impact of 3 or 4 bullets didn't really matter, she should've called out to him that she was in the toilet before he shot (according to him).  Nothing to do with Pistorius, he's being carrying on his life for the past year as if nothing happened, nice girlfriend, nice house to live in (his uncle's), nice food, etc.

Tony Bennett wrote:

kevmack wrote:
To be fair though Tony, it was the McCanns who have claimed abduction and the press went along with it.  I only made the point I did because you seemed to be quoting from the article, substituting the words missing and disappeared with abduction, claiming that is why you believe Grange will be a whitewash, when the article does not use the word abduction in relation to Madeleine at all.

I understand. It made no difference for me whether they said 'missing Madeleine' or 'abducted Madeleine'. It is simply the fact that the National Crime Agency (our top crime-fighting body) and Missing People and Child Rescue Alert all promoting Kate McCann to head up their latest campaign tells me, as it must surely tell everyone else, that the mantra 'Madeleine was abducted' is now set in the hardest of hard stone.   

I respect your opinion Tony, but at this point I don't agree with it, inasmuch that I don't believe Grange will be a whitewash...

This will probably come over to some as 'arrogant', but with equal respect to you, kevmack, I think my opinion on this issue has a great deal more evidence to support it than yours. I wish however that the evidence did not lead me to hold that opinion

Tony Bennett wrote:

Ladyinred wrote:

Tony Bennett wrote:

I will spell it out in more detail.

The script for the official British establishment narrative about Madeleine's disappearance was written on Day One - and has never changed.

Madeleine was abducted by an evil abductor.

So, TB, are we all here wasting our time?

A three-year-old British girl has gone missing in what by any measure are extraordinary circumstances.

That is wholly unacceptable, and for the sake of Madeleine's memory, for the sake of the truth, and for the sake of all those who have contributed to the Find Madeleine Fund, we want to know what really happened.

Time spent here by those genuinely seeking the truth and contributing positivley in one way or another to doing so can never be said to be 'wasting their time'; IMO the truth about anything is a worthwhile pursuit, be it how the universe was formed, or how a little girl went missing.

What I am saying is that the news today that the National Crime Agency, Missing People and those behind Child Rescue Alert are all willing to put Madeleine's mother at the very forefront of this child safety/rescue campaign is a signal (if one were needed) that we can only expect DCI Redwood and co to return a verdict of 'Madeleine was abducted by an evil abductor'.

Whenever they have finished spending taxpayers' money to say so

Tony Bennett wrote:

kevmack wrote:
To be fair though Tony, it was the McCanns who have claimed abduction and the press went along with it.  I only made the point I did because you seemed to be quoting from the article, substituting the words missing and disappeared with abduction, claiming that is why you believe Grange will be a whitewash, when the article does not use the word abduction in relation to Madeleine at all.

I understand. It made no difference for me whether they said 'missing Madeleine' or 'abducted Madeleine'. It is simply the fact that the National Crime Agency (our top crime-fighting body) and Missing People and Child Rescue Alert all promoting Kate McCann to head up their latest campaign tells me, as it must surely tell everyone else, that the mantra 'Madeleine was abducted' is now set in the hardest of hard stone.   

I respect your opinion Tony, but at this point I don't agree with it, inasmuch that I don't believe Grange will be a whitewash...

This will probably come over to some as 'arrogant', but with equal respect to you, kevmack, I think my opinion on this issue has a great deal more evidence to support it than yours. I wish however that the evidence did not lead me to hold that opinion

aquila wrote:

Tony Bennett wrote:

kevmack wrote:
To be fair though Tony, it was the McCanns who have claimed abduction and the press went along with it.  I only made the point I did because you seemed to be quoting from the article, substituting the words missing and disappeared with abduction, claiming that is why you believe Grange will be a whitewash, when the article does not use the word abduction in relation to Madeleine at all.

I understand. It made no difference for me whether they said 'missing Madeleine' or 'abducted Madeleine'. It is simply the fact that the National Crime Agency (our top crime-fighting body) and Missing People and Child Rescue Alert all promoting Kate McCann to head up their latest campaign tells me, as it must surely tell everyone else, that the mantra 'Madeleine was abducted' is now set in the hardest of hard stone.   

I respect your opinion Tony, but at this point I don't agree with it, inasmuch that I don't believe Grange will be a whitewash...

This will probably come over to some as 'arrogant', but with equal respect to you, kevmack, I think my opinion on this issue has a great deal more evidence to support it than yours. I wish however that the evidence did not lead me to hold that opinion

Your last paragraph Tony is very poignant and I don't find it arrogant at all. It's no secret that I disagree with you at times.

There is nothing more in the world that is wished for by people on this forum than for truth and justice for Madeleine McCann.

No-one will feel good to say 'I was right' 'I was the one that told ya'.

It simply can't be ignored that a galloping charity is now in bed with a crime agency in UK.

Poor Madeleine, collateral damage, victim of greed and no doubt mascot for 'the greater good' that will extend her fiscal worth by vile liars who couldn't afford her the honour of telling the whole truth.

If anyone thinks there will ever be a whistle blower on this please think again.

I really, really want to be wrong.

kevmack wrote:
Well I suppose we will have to wait and see, but I'm not ready to admit defeat yet and if Grange is a whitewash as you believe, then lets face it, we'd all do well to just pack up and forget about it all, because no amount of us writing here on this forum or elsewhere will ever change the result...

Newintown wrote: Are there any photos of KM and Mrs Jones together.  The only photo I've seen on the paper's website is KM and her mother.

Tony Bennett wrote:

kevmack wrote:
Well I suppose we will have to wait and see, but I'm not ready to admit defeat yet and if Grange is a whitewash as you believe, then lets face it, we'd all do well to just pack up and forget about it all, because no amount of us writing here on this forum or elsewhere will ever change the result...

What?!*!??*@??

'Admit defeat'?

The people who perished at Hillsborough in 1988 and their surviving relatives were victims of a cover-up.

The senior police invovled repeatedly lied through their teeth.

The current Director of Public Prosecutions, Alison Saunders, blocked a second inquest when she was a lawyer for the Attorney-General.

Did the victims' families give up?

Did they 'admit defeat'?

NO.

They persisted, and patiently and intelligently went on campaigning.

Until they got a result.