Kate McCann launches New Campaign

Newintown wrote:

Watching wrote:

But as mentioned many times on this forum, what happens if someone comes forward in the future and confesses everything or something.  SY or the PJ or whoever is going to have more than a lot of egg on their faces.

mirage wrote:


They'll still manage to Scramble it into something the public will swallow. The chief will only have to say: 'This couple have suffered for their mistake. Omeletting them go. It's not that they have been treated with any favouritism, we have not Coddled them in any way. We are compassionate people. Remember, we are a police service - not a force. In that respect no one can accuse us of being Hard-boiled. It's just that we have looked at two options and decided on Sunny-side up. That is not to say we won't Crack this in the future. We are Laying it on file. The whole case has been like walking on Egg Shells what with data we wanted from the PJ not easily Poached. We will keep an Albumen of all the dodgy photographs, of course.

Let me finish by saying Double yokers are rare in the criminal world, but where they arise they will be Beaten in the end. We will  never accept the Yoke has been entirely on us.

Thank you for allowing us to Whisk you into a froth of anticipation only to be let down by some very Bad Eggs.

Bon Appetit. Mind how you go."

Very funny Mirage




          WON'T ASK YOU AGAIN, DCI REDWOOD FROM MET HERE, MOVE ALONG

Not very funny when we're talking about the death of a 3 year old child and the "maybe" cover up/disappearance of her body by the parents and or the Tapas 7.  What chance did Madeleine have against all these people who were more concerned in keeping their families/lifestyle together instead of telling the truth of what happened on 3 May 2007 and then carrying on with their lives for the past 7 years as if nothing happened.

A bit like Pistorius really saying he didn't mean to shoot Reeva, he was shooting at the door.  The fact that she was standing behind the door and took the impact of 3 or 4 bullets didn't really matter, she should've called out to him that she was in the toilet before he shot (according to him).  Nothing to do with Pistorius, he's being carrying on his life for the past year as if nothing happened, nice girlfriend, nice house to live in (his uncle's), nice food, etc.

Tony Bennett wrote:

kevmack wrote:
To be fair though Tony, it was the McCanns who have claimed abduction and the press went along with it.  I only made the point I did because you seemed to be quoting from the article, substituting the words missing and disappeared with abduction, claiming that is why you believe Grange will be a whitewash, when the article does not use the word abduction in relation to Madeleine at all.

I understand. It made no difference for me whether they said 'missing Madeleine' or 'abducted Madeleine'. It is simply the fact that the National Crime Agency (our top crime-fighting body) and Missing People and Child Rescue Alert all promoting Kate McCann to head up their latest campaign tells me, as it must surely tell everyone else, that the mantra 'Madeleine was abducted' is now set in the hardest of hard stone.   

I respect your opinion Tony, but at this point I don't agree with it, inasmuch that I don't believe Grange will be a whitewash...

This will probably come over to some as 'arrogant', but with equal respect to you, kevmack, I think my opinion on this issue has a great deal more evidence to support it than yours. I wish however that the evidence did not lead me to hold that opinion

Tony Bennett wrote:

Ladyinred wrote:

Tony Bennett wrote:

I will spell it out in more detail.

The script for the official British establishment narrative about Madeleine's disappearance was written on Day One - and has never changed.

Madeleine was abducted by an evil abductor.

So, TB, are we all here wasting our time?

A three-year-old British girl has gone missing in what by any measure are extraordinary circumstances.

That is wholly unacceptable, and for the sake of Madeleine's memory, for the sake of the truth, and for the sake of all those who have contributed to the Find Madeleine Fund, we want to know what really happened.

Time spent here by those genuinely seeking the truth and contributing positivley in one way or another to doing so can never be said to be 'wasting their time'; IMO the truth about anything is a worthwhile pursuit, be it how the universe was formed, or how a little girl went missing.

What I am saying is that the news today that the National Crime Agency, Missing People and those behind Child Rescue Alert are all willing to put Madeleine's mother at the very forefront of this child safety/rescue campaign is a signal (if one were needed) that we can only expect DCI Redwood and co to return a verdict of 'Madeleine was abducted by an evil abductor'.

Whenever they have finished spending taxpayers' money to say so

Tony Bennett wrote:

kevmack wrote:
To be fair though Tony, it was the McCanns who have claimed abduction and the press went along with it.  I only made the point I did because you seemed to be quoting from the article, substituting the words missing and disappeared with abduction, claiming that is why you believe Grange will be a whitewash, when the article does not use the word abduction in relation to Madeleine at all.

I understand. It made no difference for me whether they said 'missing Madeleine' or 'abducted Madeleine'. It is simply the fact that the National Crime Agency (our top crime-fighting body) and Missing People and Child Rescue Alert all promoting Kate McCann to head up their latest campaign tells me, as it must surely tell everyone else, that the mantra 'Madeleine was abducted' is now set in the hardest of hard stone.   

I respect your opinion Tony, but at this point I don't agree with it, inasmuch that I don't believe Grange will be a whitewash...

This will probably come over to some as 'arrogant', but with equal respect to you, kevmack, I think my opinion on this issue has a great deal more evidence to support it than yours. I wish however that the evidence did not lead me to hold that opinion

aquila wrote:

Tony Bennett wrote:

kevmack wrote:
To be fair though Tony, it was the McCanns who have claimed abduction and the press went along with it.  I only made the point I did because you seemed to be quoting from the article, substituting the words missing and disappeared with abduction, claiming that is why you believe Grange will be a whitewash, when the article does not use the word abduction in relation to Madeleine at all.

I understand. It made no difference for me whether they said 'missing Madeleine' or 'abducted Madeleine'. It is simply the fact that the National Crime Agency (our top crime-fighting body) and Missing People and Child Rescue Alert all promoting Kate McCann to head up their latest campaign tells me, as it must surely tell everyone else, that the mantra 'Madeleine was abducted' is now set in the hardest of hard stone.   

I respect your opinion Tony, but at this point I don't agree with it, inasmuch that I don't believe Grange will be a whitewash...

This will probably come over to some as 'arrogant', but with equal respect to you, kevmack, I think my opinion on this issue has a great deal more evidence to support it than yours. I wish however that the evidence did not lead me to hold that opinion

Your last paragraph Tony is very poignant and I don't find it arrogant at all. It's no secret that I disagree with you at times.

There is nothing more in the world that is wished for by people on this forum than for truth and justice for Madeleine McCann.

No-one will feel good to say 'I was right' 'I was the one that told ya'.

It simply can't be ignored that a galloping charity is now in bed with a crime agency in UK.

Poor Madeleine, collateral damage, victim of greed and no doubt mascot for 'the greater good' that will extend her fiscal worth by vile liars who couldn't afford her the honour of telling the whole truth.

If anyone thinks there will ever be a whistle blower on this please think again.

I really, really want to be wrong.

kevmack wrote:
Well I suppose we will have to wait and see, but I'm not ready to admit defeat yet and if Grange is a whitewash as you believe, then lets face it, we'd all do well to just pack up and forget about it all, because no amount of us writing here on this forum or elsewhere will ever change the result...

Newintown wrote: Are there any photos of KM and Mrs Jones together.  The only photo I've seen on the paper's website is KM and her mother.

Tony Bennett wrote:

kevmack wrote:
Well I suppose we will have to wait and see, but I'm not ready to admit defeat yet and if Grange is a whitewash as you believe, then lets face it, we'd all do well to just pack up and forget about it all, because no amount of us writing here on this forum or elsewhere will ever change the result...

What?!*!??*@??

'Admit defeat'?

The people who perished at Hillsborough in 1988 and their surviving relatives were victims of a cover-up.

The senior police invovled repeatedly lied through their teeth.

The current Director of Public Prosecutions, Alison Saunders, blocked a second inquest when she was a lawyer for the Attorney-General.

Did the victims' families give up?

Did they 'admit defeat'?

NO.

They persisted, and patiently and intelligently went on campaigning.

Until they got a result.

Clay Regazzoni wrote:Bloody hell. I was feeling quite cheerful until I read those last few posts. I wouldn't even trust myself with the plastic cutlery now.

Ladyinred wrote:

Tony Bennett wrote:

Ladyinred wrote:

Tony Bennett wrote:

I will spell it out in more detail.

The script for the official British establishment narrative about Madeleine's disappearance was written on Day One - and has never changed.

Madeleine was abducted by an evil abductor.

So, TB, are we all here wasting our time?

A three-year-old British girl has gone missing in what by any measure are extraordinary circumstances.

That is wholly unacceptable, and for the sake of Madeleine's memory, for the sake of the truth, and for the sake of all those who have contributed to the Find Madeleine Fund, we want to know what really happened.

Time spent here by those genuinely seeking the truth and contributing positivley in one way or another to doing so can never be said to be 'wasting their time'; IMO the truth about anything is a worthwhile pursuit, be it how the universe was formed, or how a little girl went missing.

What I am saying is that the news today that the National Crime Agency, Missing People and those behind Child Rescue Alert are all willing to put Madeleine's mother at the very forefront of this child safety/rescue campaign is a signal (if one were needed) that we can only expect DCI Redwood and co to return a verdict of 'Madeleine was abducted by an evil abductor'.

Whenever they have finished spending taxpayers' money to say so

What I am saying is that the news today that the National Crime Agency, Missing People and those behind Child Rescue Alert are all willing to put Madeleine's mother at the very forefront of this child safety/rescue campaign is a signal (if one were needed) that we can only expect DCI Redwood and co to return a verdict of 'Madeleine was abducted by an evil abductor'.

Quite depressing, this news.

Monty Heck wrote:

Ladyinred wrote:

Tony Bennett wrote:

Ladyinred wrote:

Tony Bennett wrote:

I will spell it out in more detail.

The script for the official British establishment narrative about Madeleine's disappearance was written on Day One - and has never changed.

Madeleine was abducted by an evil abductor.

So, TB, are we all here wasting our time?

A three-year-old British girl has gone missing in what by any measure are extraordinary circumstances.

That is wholly unacceptable, and for the sake of Madeleine's memory, for the sake of the truth, and for the sake of all those who have contributed to the Find Madeleine Fund, we want to know what really happened.

Time spent here by those genuinely seeking the truth and contributing positivley in one way or another to doing so can never be said to be 'wasting their time'; IMO the truth about anything is a worthwhile pursuit, be it how the universe was formed, or how a little girl went missing.

What I am saying is that the news today that the National Crime Agency, Missing People and those behind Child Rescue Alert are all willing to put Madeleine's mother at the very forefront of this child safety/rescue campaign is a signal (if one were needed) that we can only expect DCI Redwood and co to return a verdict of 'Madeleine was abducted by an evil abductor'.

Whenever they have finished spending taxpayers' money to say so

What I am saying is that the news today that the National Crime Agency, Missing People and those behind Child Rescue Alert are all willing to put Madeleine's mother at the very forefront of this child safety/rescue campaign is a signal (if one were needed) that we can only expect DCI Redwood and co to return a verdict of 'Madeleine was abducted by an evil abductor'.

Quite depressing, this news.

Missing People are also heading up their campaign efforts with the mother of a child murdered almost immediately after being abducted by a paedophile and the father of a missing woman, the subject of a current homicide investigation.  Therefore at least two of the 3 faces of the campaign seem counter intuitive, to say the least as the type of alert being promoted is unlikely to have aided the victims in either case. 

This simply looks like a charity prepared to go with a headline grabbing photo op at any cost while airbrushing out the cruel irony of using such ambassadors for their cause.  Ergot a singular lack of judgement which may be being extended in the case of KMcC who is willing to front the campaign and, as the mother of the most famous missing child on the planet is simply far too good a marketing ploy, regardless of any questions about her role as a suitable figurehead.  This seems more a questionable case of PR style over substance than proof of an establishment whitewash and while I do have reservations concerning the point and purpose of Grange think KMcC as abassador for Missing neither adds to nor detracts from the situation concerning a potential whitewash.  An opinion only with which others will, and are entitled to disagree as they see fit.

candyfloss wrote:

Clay Regazzoni wrote:Bloody hell. I was feeling quite cheerful until I read those last few posts. I wouldn't even trust myself with the plastic cutlery now.

    I'm still cheerful, if they wanted to whitewash it they could have done so in a much shorter time frame, and spent a lot less public money!

tasprin wrote:To make this campaign a success, Missing People (& the National Crime Agency) know they need a genuine person fronting it, and they've only got Kate McCann. By involving April's mother, a million signatures are virtually guaranteed. Everyone will want to sign up and show their support for Coral Jones regardless of whether KM tags along or not. It will be trumpeted as a joint accomplishment but it wouldn't happen without Coral Jones. They know it & that's why they've asked for her help.

candyfloss wrote:

Clay Regazzoni wrote:Bloody hell. I was feeling quite cheerful until I read those last few posts. I wouldn't even trust myself with the plastic cutlery now.

    I'm still cheerful, if they wanted to whitewash it they could have done so in a much shorter time frame, and spent a lot less public money!

aquila wrote:

Ask the chief constable who went along on a Sunday to give a speech to Missing People's first ever conference (it was a pathetic attendance in terms of numbers btw) if he considered his presence as an endorsement of this charity. Ask him if he thinks it a good thing for a charity to call the UK police 'our partners' and to display the logo of ACPO on their website.

TheTruthWillOut wrote:The difference for me Tony is that the cover ups you mention are police/government covering their own lies/errors.

Unless the Met/government are somehow directly involved in what happened to MBM, then I can't see why they would put themselves in this position, especially in this climate of them being called out on historic cases the last few years.

IMO, of course.

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Newintown wrote:

Are there any photos of KM and Mrs Jones together?  The only photo I've seen on the paper's website is KM and her mother.

Tony Bennett wrote:

Newintown wrote:

Are there any photos of KM and Mrs Jones together?  The only photo I've seen on the paper's website is KM and her mother.

Yes.

There is just such a picture on the Wales Online website, here:

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/coral-jones-kate-mccann-launch-7148223

Kate McCann, left: Coral Jones, right.

The more one thinks about it, the more this seems totally the wrong choice of two people to front ANY campaign connected with the welfare of children, as a couple of posters have pointed out. It's doubtful if a 'Child Rescue Alert' system would have made much difference in either case (assuming the McCanns' account of events is true).

What is amazing is that neither case (the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, the murder of April Jones) has resulted in either of the parents, or any child welfare agency, using what happened to make this key point:

"Never leave young children on their own".

The McCanns admit to Madeleine and the twins being left alone evening after evening for periods of half-an-hour, despite all manner of risks, including (however unlikely) a break-in followed by an abduction.

In the case of Paul and Coral Jones and their daughter April, of course Mark Bridger is responsible for his evil act, triggered by watching a video of a violent sexual act towards a young child.

And of course, we were told that she was 'playing outside with a friend', which under many circumstances is quite acceptable.

But then we have a series of 'buts'.

But she was only 5 years old.

But she sufferd from left-side cerebral palsy.

But she was playing 200 yards and several streets away from her parents' home.

But if she was playing at a friend's house (as claimed), then the parents of that friend were not exercising adequate supervision.

But - supremely - when April was snatched, it was past 7.00pm and already dark.


I wonder if either the McCanns or the Joneses would be willing to sign up to a campaign whose slogan was:

"Don't take the risk; never leave young childen alone"