Re: END OF THE ROAD Madeleine McCann inquiry to END after 11 years as fears grow prime suspect WON’T be charged

by **CaKeLoveR** 21.03.22 9:54

Milo wrote:There have been five prime ministers -- Brown, Blair, Cameron, May and Johnson since 2007.

If there has been a cover-up at the highest level, do we assume that all five are aware of what was/is being covered up? If so, how do they talk about it amongst themselves?

I am asking because I have absolutely no idea.

Perhaps they have a pact, similar to that of the Tapas Crew?

by **Jill Havern** 21.03.22 10:01

No doubt about that ^^^

A pact about the death of a little girl bignono

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Prime Minister introduces Prime Suspect to Royalty affraid

by **CaKeLoveR** 21.03.22 10:41

Why are these people so cheerful when they are meeting the 'grieving' mother of a 'missing' child? Wouldn't this have been a slightly more sombre event?

by **Tony Bennett** 21.03.22 11:49

Jill Havern wrote:
Tony Bennett wrote:
Jill Havern wrote:Maybe the MMRG could regurgitate Tony's letter to the Prime Minister calling for a Full Public Inquiry...

MF letter to David Cameron calling for a FULL PUBLIC ENQUIRY (2.10.10)

2nd MF letter to David Cameron re PUBLIC ENQUIRY INTO ALL ASPECTS OF MADELEINE'S DISAPPEARANCE
I honestly can't think of a single thing we could do that might be effective.

As you know, I've always been an activist in terms of petitions, letters to top politicians and attorney-generals etc., Freedom of Information requests, and even...books - two of them!

But I'm stumped as to any practical way forward.

We are where we are.

Grange is closing.

Partly due to the work of members of CMOMM, tens, maybe hundreds of millions of people have read or watched items about Madeleine McCann and by now have a pretty shrewd idea what has happened to her.
I still think it's worth doing. The letter already exists and just needs remodelling.

As is another letter to the new Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police when he/she is appointed - but PeterMac's got that in hand.

We need to be able to say we've done absolutely everything we possibly can. Leave no stone unturned and all that - don't be a giveupski at this point in the proceedings there's still some cages left to be rattled.

I know. I know.

I think that whatever we do, there will unfortunately be no media coverage.

But I promise I will have a good think about it.

I think it would be good to have Petermac's e-book made into a 'real' book.

At one stage Richard Hall said he would be prepared to make his films into a 'real' book. But even if he did, the "world's most feared libel lawyers" might well injunct it. We maybe need to find a U.S. publisher for something like this. But then who would dare to distribute it in the UK? Not me

by Guest 21.03.22 11:54

The end of Operation Grange makes little or no difference to Madeleine McCann nor CMOMM/MMRG.

Operation Grange was set-up in 2011 to coordinate and review all documentation relating to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, it was later up-graded to an investigation - an investigation of exactly what I don't think has ever been determined. The Operation Grange remit at the time was to view the case as if the 'abduction' had been committed in the UK, I don't believe that status has ever been reviewed despite claims by former Met Police chiefs that they were going back to the beginning, reviewing all the evidence with fresh eyes (read blinkered) - leaving no stone unturned.

Ongoing investigation

In July 2013 the status of the Met’s enquiries changed to that of an investigation, working with the Portuguese authorities to pursue specific lines of enquiry.

The Portuguese authorities retain the lead and the Met continues to work in support of them.

https://www.met.police.uk/notices/met/operation-grange/

It's important to remember, Operation Grange are not the lead investigators, indeed they are not investigators of any description. The unit was created as a coordinating role, assisting the Portuguese police in any way required - it would appear they failed on both counts. The Portuguese police were the primary investigative team and still are, the British police have never had any authority to investigate, only to assist with the Portuguese investigation.

It's also important to remember Operation Grange was scaled back in the year 2015, leaving only a skeleton staff to continue 'following significant new leads'. There haven't been any new leads since the McCanns and their surviving two children returned to the UK in September 2007 so quite what they've been doing all these years remains a mystery.

Ardent followers of this case had been on the scene long before the establishment of Operation Grange. Why? Because they could see the injustice of a little three year old child abandoned by the very people who should care above all else - her family and the authorities. That hasn't changed - like suspects, they come and they go but the one thing that never goes away, nor fades, is the name Madeleine McCannn.

Isn't that the reason we are here to this day, nearly fifteen years down the line?

The more discerning know full well, letters to all and sundry, FOIs, petitions will make not the slightest difference. Despite what the authorities tell you, they don't practice transparency unless it suits their purpose, there are always loopholes to avoid answering awkward questions. As far as I see, our purpose has always been the proverbial thorn in the side - keep digging and digging and digging, never letting them off the hook for a moment.

Think what's been thrown at us over the years, has that ever stopped us?

Public interest in the case of Madeleine McCann's disappearance has certainly dwindled over the years, I believe that defeatist attitude is not because people no longer care or have changed stance - it's because they, as well as we, know that the case has been corrupted by the authorities and their tentacles, including mainstream and social media. Essentially people have given up because they feel there is no point continuing a hopeless cause.

Are we going to follow suit? Nah .... not on your nelly!

Onwards and upwards.

grouphug

by **Jill Havern** 21.03.22 12:05

Tony Bennett wrote:
Jill Havern wrote:
Tony Bennett wrote:
Jill Havern wrote:Maybe the MMRG could regurgitate Tony's letter to the Prime Minister calling for a Full Public Inquiry...

MF letter to David Cameron calling for a FULL PUBLIC ENQUIRY (2.10.10)

2nd MF letter to David Cameron re PUBLIC ENQUIRY INTO ALL ASPECTS OF MADELEINE'S DISAPPEARANCE
I honestly can't think of a single thing we could do that might be effective.

As you know, I've always been an activist in terms of petitions, letters to top politicians and attorney-generals etc., Freedom of Information requests, and even...books - two of them!

But I'm stumped as to any practical way forward.

We are where we are.

Grange is closing.

Partly due to the work of members of CMOMM, tens, maybe hundreds of millions of people have read or watched items about Madeleine McCann and by now have a pretty shrewd idea what has happened to her.
I still think it's worth doing. The letter already exists and just needs remodelling.

As is another letter to the new Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police when he/she is appointed - but PeterMac's got that in hand.

We need to be able to say we've done absolutely everything we possibly can. Leave no stone unturned and all that - don't be a giveupski at this point in the proceedings there's still some cages left to be rattled.
I know. I know.

I think that whatever we do, there will unfortunately be no media coverage.

But I promise I will have a good think about it.

I think it would be good to have Petermac's e-book made into a 'real' book.

At one stage Richard Hall said he would be prepared to make his films into a 'real' book. But even if he did, the "world's most feared libel lawyers" might well injunct it. We maybe need to find a U.S. publisher for something like this. But then who would dare to distribute it in the UK? Not me

I would do it in my name then if necessary...on Amazon. Self publishing. Or another self publishing site.

Their legal department is shit and will allow anything to be sold on there unchallenged as a prominent forum member has just found out.

Where there's a will, there's a way! Let's get our heads together and come up with a plan. It's what the MMRG does!

by Guest 21.03.22 12:17

Cor blimey - 'the virus' has gone high-brow..

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by **Jill Havern** 21.03.22 12:31

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TWO DOGS INVOLVED IN THE MADELEINE MCCANN CASE

by **CaKeLoveR** 21.03.22 14:15

#36 -I'm sure we would all contribute financially, if that would help.

by **crusader** 21.03.22 14:17

I'm in.

by **CaKeLoveR** 21.03.22 14:20

So am I.

by **crusader** 21.03.22 14:31

Did we ever hear anything from Ines Sequeira, the new chief state prosecutor who took over the case in 2014.

She said she was "utterly determined to crack the case along with Ana Paulo Rito criminal co-ordinator of PJ and Helen Monteiro who leads Portuguese detectives review of the case.

by Guest 21.03.22 14:49

Investigation into Madeleine McCann's disappearance to end: Ex- Scotland Yard detective on reports

Mar 21, 2022

Still using that word .... 'abduction' and again it's the fault of the Portuguese police.

The scene was trampled over by tome dick and harry ..

Yes it was - by the McCanns and their group of friends and all and sundry and possibly Jon Clarke of the Olive Press.

Get your facts right before spouting off the studio sofa!

angry2

by **CaKeLoveR** 21.03.22 14:56

So Bleksley believes the abduction theory?

by **crusader** 21.03.22 15:01

They keep saying about all the evidence that was destroyed, they never mention all the evidence that was found do they.

by **CaKeLoveR** 21.03.22 15:05

No, they don't - it points to the professor and his foul mouthed wife.

by Guest 21.03.22 15:20

Hand in hand with Sloperation Grunge and it's rumoured, theGerman police, the Portuguese are said to have re-opened the case of Madeleine McCann's disappearance. Well technically yes, if you include taking the files from the cabinet and dusting off just in case - but surely an unsolved case is never forgotten. Should fresh evidence surface, how can the authorities not resume their diligence? Can anyone really imagine a well respected police force entirely dropping a case because it's lunch time?

So effectively the Portuguese investigation is ongoing - let's say shelved, until such times as the crime, whatever that may be, has been solved.

The end of Operation Grange is not the end of an era, it's the end of a farce. What have they achieved during their reign of righteousness - bugger all, that's what they've achieved and a black mark against their reputation that can never be erased.

The British authorities, for whatever reason, interfered with a live police investigation on Portuguese soil, that unprecedented move is not within their jurisdiction. If you look below the surface it becomes clear just how intrusive their presence became, how the McCanns were allowed to flee (for flee they did) Portugal within hours of being interviewed by the Portuguese police as suspects/persons of interest. Dr Amaral was swiftly removed from the case and for ensuing 10 months progress came to a virtual standstill. The McCanns and their group of friends were back in a safe haven well protected by the authorities.

They left Portugal as suspects in all but word - the rest is history.

The British authorities do however have authority to investigate other areas of interest - like the dubious fund set-up in the form of a Limited Company!

by **CaKeLoveR** 21.03.22 15:43

Did the Portuguese government have anything to say about the British interference with Goncalo Amaral's investigation?

by Guest 21.03.22 16:19

I think it would be good to have Petermac's e-book made into a 'real' book.

I don't!

The e-book has been read by millions and it leads to CMOMM every time.

yes

At one stage Richard Hall said he would be prepared to make his films into a 'real' book.

How would that be possible - by transcribing every single word throughout the entire collection of videos?

PHEW !!!

You have to first look at it's potential interest value all these years down the line.

PeterMac's e-book is available for all to see and read at no personal cost; Richard D Hall's videos are available for all to see and watch and listen at no personal cost.

I think things are good as they are. We don't want to get into the realms of 'a good marketing ploy' like so many others before, including....

shhhh

You know who!

by Guest 22.03.22 0:22

GB News tonight with Dan Wootton and guests..

'McCanns vow to run own £lm investigation if Met ends inquiry'

@ 1 hour 07 minutes

Well, as it looks like the end of the road for Operation Strangeways it will be very interesting to see how the McCanns intend to proceed with their private investigation.

eyebrows

by **Jill Havern** 22.03.22 9:13

It's pretty shocking that so-called investigative journalists don't know the Maddie case, other than repeating and debating fake news.

I thought GB News would be better than that. Obviously not.

by **CaKeLoveR** 22.03.22 9:23

Not one of them has read the bewk.

by Guest 22.03.22 11:25

It's clear to me the majority of journalists and former police officers haven't done their homework, in which case they shouldn't be reporting!

I'm going to have another look at Dan's show, my feathered ones were quite jolly (read loud) last night so I couldn't hear very well. When it started I thought Dan was a bit doubtful and the studio panel are the usual suspects with very conflicting views on world events, not my favourite group of critics.

by Guest 22.03.22 11:32

Lowbrow to Highbrow to Nobrow..

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by **CaKeLoveR** 22.03.22 12:47

They have reinforced the abductor rubbish, and advertised the revolting bewk. They're not journalists.

by Guest 22.03.22 12:56

by **sharonl** 22.03.22 23:12

https://www.express.co.uk/comment/expresscomment/1584735/Madeleine-McCann-kidnap-portugal-praia-de-luz

£13m has been spent searching for Madeleine McCann. Not one penny more, says CAROLE MALONE
After 11 years and £13million the Met Police say they are finally winding down the hunt for Madeleine McCann. And I say this even though Kate and Gerry McCann will be devastated - it's time. Madeleine, who was three when she was abducted, would be 19-years-old now - a woman. And it's only when you visualise that you realise how long this investigation has gone on without any credible evidence to say whether Madeleine is alive or dead.
By CAROLE MALONE
21:38, Tue, Mar 22, 2022 | UPDATED: 21:38, Tue, Mar 22, 2022

Operation Grange couldn’t have gone on indefinitely as much as Kate and Gerry might have wanted it to. Just last year they said: “We’re never going to give up looking for her.” And, of course, they won’t. She’s their little girl and as long as there is breath in their bodies they’ll keep searching.

But Scotland Yard detectives have said there isn’t a scrap of definitive evidence to say whether Madeleine is alive or dead. And I suspect that’s been the case for a very long time.

Yet, every year when Operation Grange needs funds to keep it going for another year – we hear there’s a new lead or “critical lines of inquiry to pursue”. And on that basis, hundreds of thousands of pounds of taxpayers’ cash is thrown at Operation Grange.

In Kate and Gerry’s head, this money is justified. No amount of cash spent trying to find out what happened to her could be too much. But the reality is if she hasn’t been found after 11 years with all the resources that have been thrown at this case – it’s unlikely she will be. And it can’t go on forever just to spare the feelings of Kate and Gerry McCann.

Back in 2011 when Madeleine had been missing for four years Jenny Jones, a member of the Metropolitan Police authority demanded that the investigation be stopped.

She said it was difficult to justify spending millions on just one case: “It’s ludicrous,” she said. “This could take years and cost millions.”

And it has.

Over the years, I’ve wondered what the parents of other missing kids must think about the time and attention lavished on just one missing child.

On average the police spend around £2,500 of resources looking for missing kids.

Madeleine has had £13million and those families might be justified in thinking the McCanns were given preferential treatment.

That Madeleine’s life had been deemed more important than THEIR missing child. And the unfairness of that must be unbearable to live with.

Various Prime Ministers have also been reluctant to pull the plug on the inquiry not wanting to be the man/woman who gave up on Madeleine. Ditto with police chiefs.

But the time had to come when we said Enough! And it’s here.

In 2020, German authorities announced they had a suspect, the convicted paedophile, Christian Brueckner – currently in jail for raping an elderly woman – who had been tracked to the crime scene in Praia da Luz on the night Madeleine disappeared.

German prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters says German police have strong evidence that he killed Madeleine but German Law prevents him from releasing it.

Maybe this is why it’s finally been decided to halt the investigation. But, whatever it was, it had to be done. No child has ever been searched for as vigorously, or for so long.

Of course, Kate and Gerry McCann won’t stop looking for Madeleine. Their heads may tell them it’s pointless. But their hearts – and hope – will drive them on to keep searching for her.

They may spend a whole lifetime searching ... many parents of missing children do. And the burden of that is unimaginable.

But the end had to come. And the question still remains – were the authorities and the Government justified in spending years and many millions looking for one little lost girl?

by **sharonl** 23.03.22 0:27

Milo wrote:There have been five prime ministers -- Brown, Blair, Cameron, May and Johnson since 2007.

If there has been a cover-up at the highest level, do we assume that all five are aware of what was/is being covered up? If so, how do they talk about it amongst themselves?

I am asking because I have absolutely no idea.

I can't quite put my finger on it but for some reason I think that this is a EU coverup rather than just a UK one, maybe that is why both Labour and Tory MPs have assisted in this.

Blair, a remainer who doubled our contributions to the EU, was probably the first to protect the McCanns by sending Mitchell over to "control what came out in the press".

We later learn of Blairs' association with PACT charity linked to Missing People charity of which Kate was made ambassador.

We also have the that conference, in "Brussels". This is just for starters. I have always had a feeling that this coverup would fall apart post Brexit.

Just my thoughts thinking

Amelie McCann (aged 2): "Maddie's jammies!".