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Rogue-a-Tory wrote:As eluded to earlier on and Peter Mac confirms, you cannot get a large, masted boat into or out of Lagos Marina without raising the bridge and therefore alerting the port authorities. Yet this couple were supposed to have done this both ways & moored it there undetected, unregistered for several days.

Never mind Lagos Marina, this story has more of the hallmarks of Howard & Marina.

Tony Bennett wrote:I had another 'phone call from 'Mapleleaf'.

He asked me on his behalf to correct a few things in my report yesterday. I'm not sure why he couldn't do this himself.

So here goes:

1. It wasn't him that went to see Leicestershire Police. It was the abductor's brother

2. The department he visited when he flew to Lisbon was the DCCB not the DCCP. He didn't actually see the Director, Felicio, but two of his detectives

3. It was a text-message from Tim Dobson on 4 July 2013 summoning him to a meeting with Andy Redwood, not an e-mail. He ended up seeing Tim Dobson, not Andy Redwood

4. When he was interviewed by Control Risks Group, they had just been 'dropped' as the investigators; they were not in a very good mood when he saw them and he walked out of the meeting with them saying: 'Forget about it'.

But there was one topic of note in what he said.

He claimed that he made an appointment with James Murray of the Express and went to see him at the Express's offices, last Friday (12th), which he said were at 'Northern and Shell' on Lower Thames Street. He said he arrived at 3.00pm and spent 'two-and-a-half hours' with Murray talking about the Brazilian couple etc. I'm not sure if the Express offices are there, but if his account is true, then it would shed light once again on the barrel-scraping that goes on in the tabloids to put anything at all about Madeleine on their front pages, even if it is the most utter tosh.

Oh, and Mapleleaf clarified one other point...

He is 95% sure Madeleine is alive and 95% certain who she is with - but he's not exactly sure where she and the abductor might be - except that 'it's a long way away where the authorities can't reach them'

tiny wrote:Mapleleafs  theory ---  what a load of rot

woodforthetrees wrote:

tiny wrote:Mapleleafs  theory ---  what a load of rot

If i had a suspicious mind i would say that Mapleleaf could be Clarence, or at least someone from the McCann camp who would benefit from keeping the 'abducted and alive' theory going 

aquila wrote:

woodforthetrees wrote:

tiny wrote:Mapleleafs  theory ---  what a load of rot

If i had a suspicious mind i would say that Mapleleaf could be Clarence, or at least someone from the McCann camp who would benefit from keeping the 'abducted and alive' theory going 

I wish Tony had told him to bugger off and not given him his phone number.

aquila wrote:

I wish Tony had told him to bugger off and not given him his phone number.

Tony Bennett wrote:

aquila wrote:

I wish Tony had told him to bugger off and not given him his phone number.

Just for the record, here is the original message sent by ******* *****. I think aquila we must give him due credit for - so it seems - having pushed this story onto the front page of a Sunday tabloid:

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FROM ******* *****
  
After 7 years on the case I finally gave up on both Grange and PJ.

This is my line of inquiry supplied to Jim murray at the Sunday Express.

Having been into Grange three times over the years and supplied all information tottally frustrated they have not moved on this.

I met with Ana Rito three weeks ago and gave her all information as to where to find these people including cell numbers etc.

I am not a crank. Investigating never has been my business.

I was approached to help October 2007.

I found these people by accident following my initial line of inquiry.

Their eldest child is a girl aged appx 11 years,tall,very pretty,blonde brown hair and skin tone lighter than her parents-quote from local respected businessman.

She has only been seen rarely by him. Three times in three years.

However they are in a unique country perfect to have a child such as this with no questions asked.

Repeat Grange and PJ have everything but I believe not acted as Country far away and judicially very challenging.

Best,

******* *****

aquila wrote:

Tony Bennett wrote:

aquila wrote:

I wish Tony had told him to bugger off and not given him his phone number.

Just for the record, here is the original message sent by ******* *****. I think aquila we must give him due credit for - so it seems - having pushed this story onto the front page of a Sunday tabloid:

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FROM ******* *****
  
After 7 years on the case I finally gave up on both Grange and PJ.

This is my line of inquiry supplied to Jim murray at the Sunday Express.

Having been into Grange three times over the years and supplied all information tottally frustrated they have not moved on this.

I met with Ana Rito three weeks ago and gave her all information as to where to find these people including cell numbers etc.

I am not a crank. Investigating never has been my business.

I was approached to help October 2007.

I found these people by accident following my initial line of inquiry.

Their eldest child is a girl aged appx 11 years,tall,very pretty,blonde brown hair and skin tone lighter than her parents-quote from local respected businessman.

She has only been seen rarely by him. Three times in three years.

However they are in a unique country perfect to have a child such as this with no questions asked.

Repeat Grange and PJ have everything but I believe not acted as Country far away and judicially very challenging.

Best,

******* *****

Why would someone seek you out to tell you this Tony?

Why would someone who has something of real substance use this forum to give out information that ought to go to the police?

I'm at a loss here and I'm not happy about it either.

Madeleine McCann not even four years old goes missing and weird contact with Tony Bennett from someone called 'mapleleaf' who claims to have met James Murray and shown him a photograph from three feet away.

Maplefleaf calls Madeleine 'the child' and fails to mention her name.

Selling a motorbike to gather funds to visit where this person thinks Madeleine is?

I despair.

Joss wrote:I am puzzled why MP would come onto the forum with this info. after having been in contact with the investigating authorities and the media? And also wanting telephone contact with one of the members here? What is MP hoping to gain by doing this? I just think its odd is all.

jeanmonroe wrote:

Joss wrote:I am puzzled why MP would come onto the forum with this info. after having been in contact with the investigating authorities and the media? And also wanting telephone contact with one of the members here? What is MP hoping to gain by doing this? I just think its odd is all.

" I just think its odd is all"
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Like an 'abduction', of a dead child, by a scaredy cat, burglator?

Like an 'abduction' ONLY the two parents, of the 'missing' child,  have said er, 'happened'?

That sort of 'odd'?

aquila wrote:

Tony Bennett wrote:

aquila wrote:

I wish Tony had told him to bugger off and not given him his phone number.

Just for the record, here is the original message sent by ******* *****. I think aquila we must give him due credit for - so it seems - having pushed this story onto the front page of a Sunday tabloid:

+++++++++++++++++++

FROM ******* *****
  
After 7 years on the case I finally gave up on both Grange and PJ.

This is my line of inquiry supplied to Jim murray at the Sunday Express.

Having been into Grange three times over the years and supplied all information tottally frustrated they have not moved on this.

I met with Ana Rito three weeks ago and gave her all information as to where to find these people including cell numbers etc.

I am not a crank. Investigating never has been my business.

I was approached to help October 2007.

I found these people by accident following my initial line of inquiry.

Their eldest child is a girl aged appx 11 years,tall,very pretty,blonde brown hair and skin tone lighter than her parents-quote from local respected businessman.

She has only been seen rarely by him. Three times in three years.

However they are in a unique country perfect to have a child such as this with no questions asked.

Repeat Grange and PJ have everything but I believe not acted as Country far away and judicially very challenging.

Best,

******* *****

Why would someone seek you out to tell you this Tony?

Why would someone who has something of real substance use this forum to give out information that ought to go to the police?

I'm at a loss here and I'm not happy about it either.

Madeleine McCann not even four years old goes missing and weird contact with Tony Bennett from someone called 'mapleleaf' who claims to have met James Murray and shown him a photograph from three feet away.

Maplefleaf calls Madeleine 'the child' and fails to mention her name.

Selling a motorbike to gather funds to visit where this person thinks Madeleine is?

I despair.

I find this very strange.  It isn't another Stephen Birch is it?

He says he has been into Op Grange 3 times.  Voluntarily or was he invited?

aquila wrote:

Why would someone seek you out to tell you this Tony?

REPLY: Answering your questions as best as I can:

Point 1. The e-mail was received by the forum-owner, who decides what to do with any e-mail received. It was not sent to me but forwarded to me by the forum-owner.

Point 2. Before answering your remaining questions, let us remember that very valuable information indeed that's come in to the forum-owner has been sent e.g. to PeterMac for the specific things he's engaged on, and we have also benefitted from the revelation by a good and productive source that Edward Smethurst has been holidaying with one or other of his three families in Praia da Luz since 1999. More recently - this year in fact - by the same route, i.e. via the forum-owner, we learnt of the court case where Smethurst's evidence in a court case was robustly condemned by a High Court judge asw 'unreliable' - or worse, and which is now - exclusively - on this forum. More complaints about Smethurst's conduct in his business dealings are being received as I write. These come about because, for example, people google 'Edward Smethurst' - and Google sends them here. (Well, sometimes they do, sometimes they don't). Let us not forget what good work this forum does behind the scenes. 

Point 3. In this case, 'Mapleleaf' had already joined the forum. He was also IMO a relevant subject because it would appear that he was the source for the Express's absurd story about the Brazilian couple. Rightly or wrongly I considered that more information about this unlikely source would be of interest to us here.  

Why would someone who has something of real substance use this forum to give out information that ought to go to the police?

REPLY: He says he's been to the police. He wrote to the forum IMO either (a) to try and gain credibility for his tale or (b) to seek attention. Or both.

I'm at a loss here and I'm not happy about it either.

Madeleine McCann not even four years old goes missing and weird contact with Tony Bennett from someone called 'mapleleaf' who claims to have met James Murray and shown him a photograph from three feet away.

REPLY: If his claim that the Express printed this story following his visit on Friday is true, then I suggest he is of interest for that very reason alone. It enables us to expose the deceit the mainstream media perpetrate almost daily on the material facts of this case.

Maplefleaf calls Madeleine 'the child' and fails to mention her name.

Selling a motorbike to gather funds to visit where this person thinks Madeleine is?

I despair.

scrants wrote:

The local businessman.  How does Mapleleaf know this?  He he says eldest child.  Do they have others? Why doesn't he say at least which continent it is? Has he approached the McCanns on this? Surely they would be telling the world about it.

PeterMac wrote:Simon Russell's statement, on which the entire story is based - pretty well copy and paste -
was taken on 9th May 2007. Day 6 of the enquiry.
In it he identifies by name the two people concerned in his story, who were allegedly looking after, cleaning and living in a catamaran in Lagos Marina.

The wording of the Express article and of the statement are so similar that it is almost inconceivable that they did not read it,
and merely repeated the story they were being told, third hand, at the distance of 7 years.

"GOTCHA, PM"  

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