Re: SOLVED

by ChippyM 17.12.14 13:37

Tony Bennett wrote:
aquila wrote:
I wish Tony had told him to bugger off and not given him his phone number.
Just for the record, here is the original message sent by ******* *****. I think aquila we must give him due credit for - so it seems - having pushed this story onto the front page of a Sunday tabloid:

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FROM ******* *****

After 7 years on the case I finally gave up on both Grange and PJ.

This is my line of inquiry supplied to Jim murray at the Sunday Express.

Having been into Grange three times over the years and supplied all information tottally frustrated they have not moved on this.

I met with Ana Rito three weeks ago and gave her all information as to where to find these people including cell numbers etc.

I am not a crank. Investigating never has been my business.

I was approached to help October 2007.

I found these people by accident following my initial line of inquiry.

Their eldest child is a girl aged appx 11 years,tall,very pretty,blonde brown hair and skin tone lighter than her parents-quote from local respected businessman.

She has only been seen rarely by him. Three times in three years.

However they are in a unique country perfect to have a child such as this with no questions asked.

Repeat Grange and PJ have everything but I believe not acted as Country far away and judicially very challenging.

Best,

******* *****

Odd. Not an investigator but approached to help, not an investigator but following lines of enquiry? Not an investigator but '7 years on the case'.

Do you know the McCann's or their associates Mapleleaf? who asked you to help?

by Jamming 17.12.14 13:42

Tony Bennett wrote:
aquila wrote:
I wish Tony had told him to bugger off and not given him his phone number.
Just for the record, here is the original message sent by ******* *****. I think aquila we must give him due credit for - so it seems - having pushed this story onto the front page of a Sunday tabloid:

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FROM ******* *****

After 7 years on the case I finally gave up on both Grange and PJ.

This is my line of inquiry supplied to Jim murray at the Sunday Express.

Having been into Grange three times over the years and supplied all information tottally frustrated they have not moved on this.

I met with Ana Rito three weeks ago and gave her all information as to where to find these people including cell numbers etc.

I am not a crank. Investigating never has been my business.

I was approached to help October 2007.

I found these people by accident following my initial line of inquiry.

Their eldest child is a girl aged appx 11 years,tall,very pretty,blonde brown hair and skin tone lighter than her parents-quote from local respected businessman.

She has only been seen rarely by him. Three times in three years.

However they are in a unique country perfect to have a child such as this with no questions asked.

Repeat Grange and PJ have everything but I believe not acted as Country far away and judicially very challenging.

Best,

******* *****

Tony,

Just out of curiosity, did this (not a) crank withhold their phone number when they rang you ?

by ScarletLaw 17.12.14 13:59

ChippyM wrote:
Tony Bennett wrote:
aquila wrote:
I wish Tony had told him to bugger off and not given him his phone number.
Just for the record, here is the original message sent by ******* *****. I think aquila we must give him due credit for - so it seems - having pushed this story onto the front page of a Sunday tabloid:

+++++++++++++++++++

FROM ******* *****

After 7 years on the case I finally gave up on both Grange and PJ.

This is my line of inquiry supplied to Jim murray at the Sunday Express.

Having been into Grange three times over the years and supplied all information tottally frustrated they have not moved on this.

I met with Ana Rito three weeks ago and gave her all information as to where to find these people including cell numbers etc.

I am not a crank. Investigating never has been my business.

I was approached to help October 2007.

I found these people by accident following my initial line of inquiry.

Their eldest child is a girl aged appx 11 years,tall,very pretty,blonde brown hair and skin tone lighter than her parents-quote from local respected businessman.

She has only been seen rarely by him. Three times in three years.

However they are in a unique country perfect to have a child such as this with no questions asked.

Repeat Grange and PJ have everything but I believe not acted as Country far away and judicially very challenging.

Best,

******* *****

Odd. Not an investigator but approached to help, not an investigator but following lines of enquiry? Not an investigator but '7 years on the case'.

Do you know the McCann's or their associates Mapleleaf? who asked you to help?

These weeks leading up to the libel case conclusion are the most critical for the McCanns. If it does go in favour of the Inspector then the papers, now shackled by the threat of Carter Ruck, are going to have a field day by printing excerpts of the book and things he's said in interviews. The papers comment boxes (hopefully) will be flooded with you guys interpretations of the misleading facts in this case. So it makes sense that Clarence is going to have people spreading around other stories that puts doubts in everyone minds that they could be wrong about the familys' involvement. These planted stories about abductions are going to be heated up for sure between now and Feb-March. Throughout this case there's been one remit alone, muddy the waters as much as possible. This is the reason the case (at this time) is so confusing in getting a safe prosecution. From Janes' crazy abductor story, and the consequential different media leaks about it afterwards with the constant updated changes in physical descriptions, through to the mass of different sightings that pop up all over the place. It's all designed to make it such a spaghetti mess that no one can see the woods for the trees.

by aiyoyo 17.12.14 14:09

For the last 24 hours I was awaiting joyfully for more story on this saga and this Yuletide clown is still singing the same song to keep us entertained.

It's one of those "Oh Lordy" moments !

So.......the abductor's brother went to see the Leicestershire Police back in 2007, yet the abductor is still at large nearly 8 years later ? Did the LP Police not think to ask "the brother": "well....where is your brother"?

Don't be gullible .....it's just a load of bullocks!
ML probably got paid christmas bonus by TM to play a practical joke on this forum. Like a naughty child who comes, presses the doorbell, then run away to hide around the corner waiting to see how the occupier will react...open the door or not open the door...poke head out or not poke head out ....and also to see which stupid idiot lives behind the door.

It's a prank and the prankster rejoices he isn't spotted in his hiding corner yet.

I await the next episode....... big grin

"BEWARE OF DOGS" on the window might be handy !
They don't like dogs, especially notoriously unreliable ones that can out them in a sniffy.

by deafoldbat 17.12.14 14:19

by **Tony Bennett** 17.12.14 14:20

Jamming wrote:
Tony,

Just out of curiosity, did this (not a) crank withhold their phone number when they rang you ?

Let me make the sequence of events crystal clear:

1. The forum-owner sent me his e-mail

2. I did not believe a word of it, but sent him this polite response:

Dear Mr *****

Thank you very much for conatcting the Jill Havern forum. The forum owner has asked me to reply on your behalf.

We are very interested in what you have to say (your message reproduced below).

Before deciding how to take this further, could you please let me know:

1. On what date you met Ana Rito and where you met her?

2. On what dates (or approximate dates) you met with Operation Grange and who you spoke to when you met them?

3. Who was it who approached you in October 2007?

Thank you very much and we look forward to hearing from you further.

Yours sincerely

Anthony Bennett

3. He replied asking for my 'phone number

4. I e-mailed it to him

5. He 'phoned back a few minutes later. I have a 'Caller Display' thingy and, yes, of course, it came up 'Withheld'. I let him talk. He wasn't very good when I asked him specific questions. He gave me his name. I am not sure if it's his real name.

by Jamming 17.12.14 14:28

Tony Bennett wrote:
Jamming wrote:
Tony,

Just out of curiosity, did this (not a) crank withhold their phone number when they rang you ?
Let me make the sequence of events crystal clear:

1. The forum-owner sent me his e-mail

2. I did not believe a word of it, but sent him this polite response:

Dear Mr *****

Thank you very much for conatcting the Jill Havern forum. The forum owner has asked me to reply on your behalf.

We are very interested in what you have to say (your message reproduced below).

Before deciding how to take this further, could you please let me know:

1. On what date you met Ana Rito and where you met her?

2. On what dates (or approximate dates) you met with Operation Grange and who you spoke to when you met them?

3. Who was it who approached you in October 2007?

Thank you very much and we look forward to hearing from you further.

Yours sincerely

Anthony Bennett

3. He replied asking for my 'phone number

4. I e-mailed it to him

5. He 'phoned back a few minutes later. I have a 'Caller Display' thingy and, yes, of course, it came up 'Withheld'. I let him talk. He wasn't very good when I asked him specific questions. He gave me his name. I am not sure if it's his real name.

Thanks and yep, understood all that

He would just, perhaps, have had a smidgen of credibility if he hadn't withheld his number. Actually, scrub that, what has been pointed out on here about the history of this story, and given what he has said himself, he wouldn't....

Anyone want a cheap crash helmet ? One careful owner, lack of motorbike forces sale. All enquiries to Mapleleaf please

by jeanmonroe 17.12.14 14:35

PeterMac wrote:I have just checked, and this came up

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"Fcuk You!, PM"! winkwink

You've just fcuked up my Xmas!

I've cracked a couple of ribs and i've got to go to the hospital, to have my split 'sides' stitched up!

All caused by 'laughing' to much at your picture above!

'appy 'effing' Xmas!

laughat

eta: I've got an old scooter, i could 'sell'

Trouble is, that 'money' would only get me about halfway to Brazil, mid Atlantic, and BA don't 'provide' parachutes, do they?

And i can't swim!

by Rogue-a-Tory 17.12.14 14:40

jeanmonroe wrote:
PeterMac wrote:I have just checked, and this came up

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"Fcuk You!, PM"!

You've just fcuked up my Xmas!

I've cracked a couple of ribs and i've got to go to the hospital, to have my split 'sides' stitched up!

All caused by 'laughing' to much at you picture above!

'appy 'effing' Xmas!

eta: I've got an old scooter, i could 'sell'

Trouble is, that 'money' would only get me about halfway to Brazil, mid Atlantic, and BA don't 'provide' parachutes, do they?

And i can't swim!

If you can afford a Ryanair Flight to Faro & a taxis fare, you can easily nick a catamaran from Lagos Marina & sail there. The harbour authority doesn't give one, apparently - Just saying big grin

by jeanmonroe 17.12.14 14:55

Rogue-a-Tory wrote:
jeanmonroe wrote:
PeterMac wrote:I have just checked, and this came up

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"Fcuk You!, PM"!

You've just fcuked up my Xmas!

I've cracked a couple of ribs and i've got to go to the hospital, to have my split 'sides' stitched up!

All caused by 'laughing' to much at you picture above!

'appy 'effing' Xmas!

eta: I've got an old scooter, i could 'sell'

Trouble is, that 'money' would only get me about halfway to Brazil, mid Atlantic, and BA don't 'provide' parachutes, do they?

And i can't swim!
If you can afford a Ryanair Flight to Faro & a taxis fare, you can easily nick a catamaran from Lagos Marina & sail there. The harbour authority doesn't give one, apparently - Just saying

Oh Yeah! Duh me!, That'll do it!

Mid Atlantic, on a .......fcuking BOAT!

I ain't learnt to swim, since my last 'post' y'know!

by **PeterMac** 17.12.14 15:03

Original statement in the pJ files on the left, Express article, chopped around a bit, on the right
Spot the difference !

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by Rogue-a-Tory 17.12.14 15:07

@jeanmonroe

Take Mapleleaf's bike along

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by jeanmonroe 17.12.14 15:10

Rogue-a-Tory wrote:@jeanmonroe

Take Mapleleaf's bike along

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Oh fcuk!

There goes my remaining 'ribs'!

by **PeterMac** 17.12.14 15:29

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by Rogue-a-Tory 17.12.14 15:41

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Brilliant

Which of course would comfortably fit under the Lagos Marina bridge.

Case cracked friends

by woodforthetrees 17.12.14 15:43

Rogue-a-Tory wrote:
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Brilliant

Which of course would comfortably fit under the Lagos Marina bridge.

Case cracked

I think this might be photoshopped, there are reflection inconsistencies. I'd suggest starting another threat to discuss it pixel by pixel big grin

by **PeterMac** 17.12.14 15:55

woodforthetrees wrote:
I think this might be photoshopped, there are reflection inconsistencies. I'd suggest starting another threat to discuss it pixel by pixel

What you interpret as reflections are in fact the light from Venus shining through a patch of marsh gas, and causing a parallax distortion in the ambient reality.
The equation (x-h)2 + (y-k)2 =r2 explains it very simply, I believe.

by woodforthetrees 17.12.14 16:06

PeterMac wrote:
woodforthetrees wrote:
I think this might be photoshopped, there are reflection inconsistencies. I'd suggest starting another threat to discuss it pixel by pixel
What you interpret as reflections are in fact the light from Venus shining through a patch of marsh gas, and causing a parallax distortion in the ambient reality.
The equation (x-h)2 + (y-k)2 =r2 explains it very simply, I believe.

Ha ha ha, that explains it then. Thorough as always PeterMac big grin

by Guest 17.12.14 16:23

Not wishing to cloud this issue but I found this:

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I think we can all go home now.

by ScarletLaw 17.12.14 16:30

BlueBag wrote:Not wishing to cloud this issue but I found this:

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I think we can all go home now.

Oh it's the Victoria Beckham lookalike, the woman who Clarence called a press junkie for and at the time hadn't even sent his three stooges- sorry, investigating team, to investigate by going to the harbour and interviewing possible witnesses to this so-called event?

by Praiaaa 17.12.14 17:06

PeterMac wrote:
woodforthetrees wrote:
I think this might be photoshopped, there are reflection inconsistencies. I'd suggest starting another threat to discuss it pixel by pixel
What you interpret as reflections are in fact the light from Venus shining through a patch of marsh gas, and causing a parallax distortion in the ambient reality.
The equation (x-h)2 + (y-k)2 =r2 explains it very simply, I believe.

by jeanmonroe 17.12.14 17:09

ScarletLaw wrote:
BlueBag wrote:Not wishing to cloud this issue but I found this:

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I think we can all go home now.

Oh it's the Victorian Beckenham lookalike, the woman who Clarence called a press junkie for and at the time hadn't even sent his three stooges- sorry, investigating team, to investigate by going to the harbour and interviewing possible witnesses to this so-called event?

Yep! Never did find her ~~"quarter"~~ er, um, 'daughter', did he?

Should have scent (sic) the drug doggies!

Her being a ~~'press'~~ 'junkie', y'know.

by **PeterMac** 17.12.14 17:21

The bit I really love is the
Abductor's brother going to see the Leicestershire Police.
Who did nothing.
But who obviously told the McCanns the abductor's full identity and the location of their daughter
Who in turn did nothing
But who obviously told M3 the abductor's full identity and the location of their daughter
Who in turn did nothing
And who eventually told Edgar the abductor's full identity and the location of their daughter
Who did nothing
But who eventually told Grange the abductor's full identity and the location of their daughter
Who in turn did nothing
But who eventually decided to dig up a small village.
But found nothing

Sounds OK so far !
It looks as if the McCanns are being accused of having hindered the "search"

by aiyoyo 17.12.14 18:21

Exactly!

The whole chain of them lot, from Stuart to Redwood and all those in betweens, heard it first hand from the Abductor's brother since 2007 and still the McCanns to-this day in 2014 demand to know "certainty" from Grange.

NOT ONE of this bunch of maroons thought of asking for the cell phone number of this other "brother" - in this current day of modern technology, GPS would lead them right to him.

by **PeterMac** 17.12.14 20:56

Meanwhile on another Planet, not far away . . .

Oh Madeleine, You are growing up to be such a beautiful girl, with perfect . . . ..
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by **PeterMac** 17.12.14 21:05

aiyoyo wrote:
NOT ONE of this bunch of maroons thought of asking for the cell phone number of this other "brother" - in this current day of modern technology, GPS would lead them right to him.

They are obviously McCaroons.
The brother would not have left the police station - other than in a long wooden box, yet another sad victim of that bit of loose carpet on the Custody Suite stairs . . . !
until he had been bled dry, and then squeezed a bit more.

This is so preposterous that, sadly, it has become amusing.
By which I mean the ludicrous un-evidenced, un-sourced, un-supported statements - are amusing
NOT the fact that Madeleine Beth McCann is missing, presumed dead, and that vultures, - people with mental problems, spokespeople, lawyers, "news-reporters",
and many others feed nightly on her corpse.and make money from her death.

by ScarletLaw 18.12.14 0:02

There maybe people using her Peter but she has millions who believe in getting justice for her. I take comfort in that.

by Joss 18.12.14 2:47

What happened to MapleLeaf? Has he not reported back yet to answer some of the questions? As i thought, crickets..... Maybe he will be back after he sells his bike and goes to find Maddie? never mind