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At the risk of stepping into a parallel Birch-esque forum universe, why don't you quote what you actually said if you have a problem with being misquoted.Mapleleaf wrote:That was just one of the many misquotes of his post he promised he would amend this evening after I called him back in surprise.
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The mistakes so numerous I called him back ,we went over them and he said he would post all amendments this evening,
best Mapleleaf
best Mapleleaf
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Have I got this right?Mapleleaf wrote:The mistakes so numerous I called him back ,we went over them and he said he would post all amendments this evening,
best Mapleleaf
You have the ability to type.
You have the ability to write what you said in a phone call to TB.
You have now called him a second time to correct his post as you disagree with it.
Will you then be requesting TB to further amend the amendments to something you could have written yourself about the original conversation you had and the subsequent conversation to discuss amendments?
I'm just stating the bleeding obvious - why don't you write what you say you said?
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Sorry maple leaf I'm bored :-(((((((
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[size=40]Maddie yacht mystery[/size]
Published: 23:10, Fri, August 7, 2009
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A Bayliner luxury yacht is now at the centre of the hunt for Maddie
The luxury Swedish cruiser sailed out of the Portuguese harbour at Portimao on May 4, 2007, the morning after four-year-old Madeleine disappeared. It has not been seen since.
Last night there was growing speculation that Madeleine might have been whisked out of Portugal on the mystery boat.
The captain of the Bayliner yacht had told port authorities it was going to the Algarve port of Albufeira – as is required under Portuguese law – but the boat did not arrive.
Attempts by the Portuguese navy to track down the boat – one of six that left the marina that day – have failed. All the other yachts were accounted for.
A source close to the Portuguese authorities told the Daily Express: “The yacht from Sweden was the only boat that the Portuguese police could not trace.”
The disclosure comes a day after private detectives working for Kate and Gerry McCann revealed a “significant” new lead in their hunt for the missing youngster, now aged six.
An Australian woman in Barcelona appeared to be waiting to take delivery of her “new daughter” just 72 hours after Madeleine disappeared.
Lead investigator Dave Edgar, a former detective inspector, said he believed the girl from Rothley, Leicestershire, could have been smuggled to the Spanish port in a yacht.
The woman, described as a glamorous Victoria Beckham lookalike, was seen standing on the dockside of Barcelona’s Olympic Marina pacing up and down and “agitated”.
When approached, she asked a 41-year-old British man three times; “Are you here to deliver my new daughter?”
Investigators are now trying to trace the woman, described as white, aged between 30 and 35, 5ft 2in tall, of slim build and wearing expensive clothes.
It is possible Madeleine could have been abducted on the orders of a childless couple, desperate to have a family, and taken to Barcelona to meet her new “parents”.
Last night private detectives searching for Madeleine said they had received a massive response to their appeal about the Australian woman.
Clarence Mitchell, the McCanns’ spokesman, said: “Many hundreds of calls had come in overnight, particular from Australia.
“Some names have been put forward and all of this information is now being analysed and prioritised by the detectives,” he said.
The mystery boat had been sailing along the Algarve coast close to Praia da Luz where Madeleine disappeared.
And records show it has previously docked at Barcelona’s Marina Port Vell, next to the Olympic Marina where the Australian woman was spotted.
The Portuguese source said: “It’s possible that the boat went to Barcelona. The yacht left Portimao on the morning of May 4, 2007.
“It left saying it was going to Albufeira in Portugal. It is a legal requirement to give a destination but it did not arrive in Albufeira.
“There were six boats that left Portimao that day. All have been accounted for apart from the Swedish boat.”
In Sweden all vessels measuring over 12 metres (40ft) long must be registered with the Swedish Maritime Administration.
But inquires with their head office in Stockholm yesterday found no record of the yacht.
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A YACHT which left the Algarve just hours after Madeleine McCann disappeared has vanished without trace, the Daily Express can reveal.
Published: 23:10, Fri, August 7, 2009
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A Bayliner luxury yacht is now at the centre of the hunt for Maddie
The luxury Swedish cruiser sailed out of the Portuguese harbour at Portimao on May 4, 2007, the morning after four-year-old Madeleine disappeared. It has not been seen since.
Last night there was growing speculation that Madeleine might have been whisked out of Portugal on the mystery boat.
The captain of the Bayliner yacht had told port authorities it was going to the Algarve port of Albufeira – as is required under Portuguese law – but the boat did not arrive.
Attempts by the Portuguese navy to track down the boat – one of six that left the marina that day – have failed. All the other yachts were accounted for.
A source close to the Portuguese authorities told the Daily Express: “The yacht from Sweden was the only boat that the Portuguese police could not trace.”
The disclosure comes a day after private detectives working for Kate and Gerry McCann revealed a “significant” new lead in their hunt for the missing youngster, now aged six.
An Australian woman in Barcelona appeared to be waiting to take delivery of her “new daughter” just 72 hours after Madeleine disappeared.
Lead investigator Dave Edgar, a former detective inspector, said he believed the girl from Rothley, Leicestershire, could have been smuggled to the Spanish port in a yacht.
The woman, described as a glamorous Victoria Beckham lookalike, was seen standing on the dockside of Barcelona’s Olympic Marina pacing up and down and “agitated”.
When approached, she asked a 41-year-old British man three times; “Are you here to deliver my new daughter?”
Investigators are now trying to trace the woman, described as white, aged between 30 and 35, 5ft 2in tall, of slim build and wearing expensive clothes.
It is possible Madeleine could have been abducted on the orders of a childless couple, desperate to have a family, and taken to Barcelona to meet her new “parents”.
Last night private detectives searching for Madeleine said they had received a massive response to their appeal about the Australian woman.
Clarence Mitchell, the McCanns’ spokesman, said: “Many hundreds of calls had come in overnight, particular from Australia.
“Some names have been put forward and all of this information is now being analysed and prioritised by the detectives,” he said.
The mystery boat had been sailing along the Algarve coast close to Praia da Luz where Madeleine disappeared.
And records show it has previously docked at Barcelona’s Marina Port Vell, next to the Olympic Marina where the Australian woman was spotted.
The Portuguese source said: “It’s possible that the boat went to Barcelona. The yacht left Portimao on the morning of May 4, 2007.
“It left saying it was going to Albufeira in Portugal. It is a legal requirement to give a destination but it did not arrive in Albufeira.
“There were six boats that left Portimao that day. All have been accounted for apart from the Swedish boat.”
In Sweden all vessels measuring over 12 metres (40ft) long must be registered with the Swedish Maritime Administration.
But inquires with their head office in Stockholm yesterday found no record of the yacht.
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rustyjames wrote:Well Simon Russell the DVD shop owner gave the PJ the name of the Brazilian woman and her companion since both had worked at his parent's farm - [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Confirmation they were living at the Marina in Lagos as well on a catameran.
Incidentally this was the same guy who created the "egg man" picture from memory of around six unpublished sketches that were shown around the resort.
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Farm workers living on catameran just does not go hand in hand.
If they were doing work on the catermeran or looking after it, they'd not be at liberty to sail it away at will.
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Not a good Fragrance if you ask meaiyoyo wrote:rustyjames wrote:Well Simon Russell the DVD shop owner gave the PJ the name of the Brazilian woman and her companion since both had worked at his parent's farm - [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Confirmation they were living at the Marina in Lagos as well on a catameran.
Incidentally this was the same guy who created the "egg man" picture from memory of around six unpublished sketches that were shown around the resort.
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Farm workers living on catameran just does not go hand in hand.
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aquila wrote:
I'm just stating the bleeding obvious - why don't you write what you say you said?
Then where would all the be???
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We are surely not back on the hyperspeed yacht which got from the non existent marina in PdL, or possibly Lagos, all the way to Barcelona in time for the blind drunk bank manager to hear the girl asking for her "Quarter" sorry DAUGHTER, three days later, and to report it two YEARS later.
We did this many years ago, and it was stupid and slightly boring even then.
But it had to be done to TIE it, ELIMINATE it as even a remote possibility.
Even the disgraced former Detective Edgar did not think it was worth following up, so they just spent a load of money having a jolly on the Fraudulent Fund and did not ask any questions of anyone, very much. As one of the Tabloids proved.
He said he would follow it up, but clearly did not bother.
Orders are Orders.
We did this many years ago, and it was stupid and slightly boring even then.
But it had to be done to TIE it, ELIMINATE it as even a remote possibility.
Even the disgraced former Detective Edgar did not think it was worth following up, so they just spent a load of money having a jolly on the Fraudulent Fund and did not ask any questions of anyone, very much. As one of the Tabloids proved.
He said he would follow it up, but clearly did not bother.
Orders are Orders.
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rustyjames wrote:aquila wrote:
I'm just stating the bleeding obvious - why don't you write what you say you said?
Then where would all the be???
Ya, I rather enjoy the entertaining story of missing yatch and missing catamaran disappearing into thin air with a trace. Collided with whale perhaps?
I'm sure we won't hear the end of it yet.....
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Hi Mapleleaf, your posts are very interesting and you seem to be well informed. I have one question for you, I would love to know just where the dogs fit in to your theory?? Remember the two cadaver dogs, Eddie and Keela. keela still works with the FBI. I am fascinated by the dogs as they solved 100% of the cases they worked on.
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Morse good evening and thanks for the compliment.
I agree with you entirely re. the dogs and the blood spots also in the apartment.
Extremely compelling and there must be something there but
I have a simple focus and that is the possible recover of a child.
Just back in from and evening out and skipped over the forum dross to reply to you,
best,
Mapleleaf
I agree with you entirely re. the dogs and the blood spots also in the apartment.
Extremely compelling and there must be something there but
I have a simple focus and that is the possible recover of a child.
Just back in from and evening out and skipped over the forum dross to reply to you,
best,
Mapleleaf
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Went out and successfully sold my motorcycle to fund hopefully my last trip to where I believe MM to be.
Best hit the hay now,
Mapleleaf
Best hit the hay now,
Mapleleaf
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Mapleleaf wrote:
I have a simple focus and that is the possible recovery of a child.
Just back in from an evening out and skipped over the forum dross to reply to you,
best,
Well quite so.
If you believe the child - ( otherwise known as Madeleine Beth McCann, incidentally !) -, can be recovered, what was so important about your evening out.
It must have been something seriously earth-shattering that Madeleine can be left, yet again,
by her parents, by Edgar, By SY, by Grange, and by everyone who believes she is still alive - in her Hellish Lair, in the Lawless Hinterland, within 10 miles of PdL - or so they have told us
Five nights in a row is apparently not enough
Seven Years is perhaps about OK.
And for you another night out is nothing much to worry about.
So that is OK then.
Nice to have sorted that out.
EDITED TO ADD.
(Sale of motorcycle - v - trip to Brazil ?
God Speed, Sir, and all our collective good wishes are upon you in your quest.
PLEASE find Madeleine, or bring the world news of her fate.)
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The Mitchell agenda is to get everyone thinking about child kidnappers roaming Portugal and part of an International ring. I've written on public forums and come up against his people quite regular. So anything that comes out about people stealing children usually has something to do with his planted fairy tales. Anyway if their was a team of people or person watching the MCanns the child would've been taken straight after they went in the restaurant. They wouldn't hang about.
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PeterMac wrote:Mapleleaf wrote:
I have a simple focus and that is the possible recovery of a child.
Just back in from an evening out and skipped over the forum dross to reply to you,
best,
Well quite so.
If you believe the child - ( otherwise known as Madeleine Beth McCann, incidentally !) -, can be recovered, what was so important about your evening out.
It must have been something seriously earth-shattering that Madeleine can be left, yet again,
by her parents, by Edgar, By SY, by Grange, and by everyone who believes she is still alive - in her Hellish Lair, in the Lawless Hinterland, within 10 miles of PdL - or so they have told us
Five nights in a row is apparently not enough
Seven Years is perhaps about OK.
And for you another night out is nothing much to worry about.
So that is OK then.
Nice to have sorted that out.
EDITED TO ADD.
(Sale of motorcycle - v - trip to Brazil ?
God Speed, Sir, and all our collective good wishes are upon you in your quest.
PLEASE find Madeleine, or bring the world news of her fate.)
Ha ha .......ludicrous beyond words.
£1.5 million reward money is one phone call away yet ML didn't think of calling the hotline.
Sold bike instead. What's next - selling house or moon lighting to fund search ?
To Marpleleaf,
Remember to look in the sea...take wetsuit with you !
Good luck! And, bring her home for Christmas....her parents are anxiously waiting......!
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You didn't sell it to a Steven Birch by any chance?Mapleleaf wrote:Went out and successfully sold my motorcycle to fund hopefully my last trip to where I believe MM to be.
Best hit the hay now,
Mapleleaf
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Astonishing that Scotland Yard and the Home office didn't think of it.
Never mind 10 Millions pounds of public funding.
Get DCI Redwood, and . . . .
SELL A MOTOR CYCLE
Sorry. I am being cruel,
If you can find Madeleine, and bring her back, in whatever condition, and solve this long term problem
the entire world will be at your feet, for this feat.
Never mind 10 Millions pounds of public funding.
Get DCI Redwood, and . . . .
SELL A MOTOR CYCLE
Sorry. I am being cruel,
If you can find Madeleine, and bring her back, in whatever condition, and solve this long term problem
the entire world will be at your feet, for this feat.
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Mapleleaf,your not clever and your not funny, so quit taking the pi@s out of a 3 never to be a 4 year old.Selling your bike my arse, are you infact sitting at home laughing your socks off at how much respond you have had from your unbelievable posts?
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Mapleleaf wrote:Morse good evening and thanks for the compliment.
I agree with you entirely re. the dogs and the blood spots also in the apartment.
Extremely compelling and there must be something there but
I have a simple focus and that is the possible recover of a child.
Just back in from and evening out and skipped over the forum dross to reply to you,
best,Walter Mitty
Mapleleaf
x 10.
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Mapleleaf wrote:Went out and successfully sold my motorcycle to fund hopefully my last trip to where I believe MM to be.
Best hit the hay now,
Mapleleaf
Do you live within 'walking' distance of Rothley Manor then?
No motorcycle 'needed'!
'false' walls, and all that!
jkg.
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ScarletLaw wrote:The Mitchell agenda is to get everyone thinking about child kidnappers roaming Portugal and part of an International ring. I've written on public forums and come up against his people quite regular. So anything that comes out about people stealing children usually has something to do with his planted fairy tales. Anyway if their was a team of people or person watching the MCanns the child would've been taken straight after they went in the restaurant. They wouldn't hang about.
Good point, Scarlet.
If the McCanns' evening habits had been under surveillance, it follows that those of the group as a whole would have been noted and it would have been glaringly obvious to any paedophile gang, or person on the look out for a child to abduct and raise as their very own, that the optimum time to make away with one, or all, of the 3 infants who were left alone in the unlocked apartment would be shortly after the neglectful parents and their chums had assembled for the evening's
As you also rightly say, any person(s) with such nefarious design wouldn't hang about and, in common parlance, they'd have it away on their toes - most probably by means of said tootsies being applied to the accelerator of a vehicle conveniently parked outside the front entrance to 5A.
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I have also wondered about the priest who gave the McC's the keys to the church and father Pacheco being very upset about something re McC's. I wonder how this all ties into the case? Could Madeleine have been stored somewhere at the church in the blue bag? Or has the theory been debunked?
And this:
Apart from wash the curtains... wash Cuddlecat... move the sofa... put dirty nappies and rotting meat in the boot of the hire car... wash the car and leave the boot lid open...go jogging and play tennis the day after Maddie 'disappeared' while local residents were out searching...put washing in the machine when you were notified that the PJ were on their way...ask for a key to the church...refuse to answer 48 questions... refuse to take part in a reconstruction...and dump a fridge and remove reference to it from your blog when you were made arguidos...and lose a child?
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And this:
Apart from wash the curtains... wash Cuddlecat... move the sofa... put dirty nappies and rotting meat in the boot of the hire car... wash the car and leave the boot lid open...go jogging and play tennis the day after Maddie 'disappeared' while local residents were out searching...put washing in the machine when you were notified that the PJ were on their way...ask for a key to the church...refuse to answer 48 questions... refuse to take part in a reconstruction...and dump a fridge and remove reference to it from your blog when you were made arguidos...and lose a child?
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[color:45c8=000000]Maddie's body may be buried in Huelva [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
[color:45c8=000000]One of the British reporters who, since the first hour when Maddie disappeared, accompanied the McCanns' steps, lost their track for two hours in Huelva, as DN could discover. It would have been during the afternoon that Gerry and Kate, probably without their two companions, stopped being seen by the reporter, who hadn't lost them out of his sight until then.
What they did, nobody knows. A mystery that now thickens the suspicions that Madeleine's body may have been buried in the Huelva area, which could justify the thousands of kilometers that were made during four months.
Among the British journalists that follow the Maddie case at Praia da Luz, there are some who remember that one of the rituals that are practised by many catholics, namely in England, consists in visiting the tomb three months after someone's death. Curiously, on August 3, the day the McCanns "vanished" in Huelva, was three months to the day that their eldest daughter disappeared.
Policia Judiciaria already owns several images from the video surveillance system of petrol stations and highways, along with other locations where the Renault Scenic driven by Gerry McCann went through, which the investigators considered have "no apparent reason" to be.
The trip to Huelva was scheduled for August 2, a day when the McCanns were supposed to meet representatives from associations that are connected to missing children.
But the trip was delayed to the next day, allegedly because of "intestinal problems" of Gerry McCann, according to the justification that was then given by the couple's spokesperson, Justine McGuiness, who didn't travel with them that day.
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[color:45c8=000000]One of the British reporters who, since the first hour when Maddie disappeared, accompanied the McCanns' steps, lost their track for two hours in Huelva, as DN could discover. It would have been during the afternoon that Gerry and Kate, probably without their two companions, stopped being seen by the reporter, who hadn't lost them out of his sight until then.
What they did, nobody knows. A mystery that now thickens the suspicions that Madeleine's body may have been buried in the Huelva area, which could justify the thousands of kilometers that were made during four months.
Among the British journalists that follow the Maddie case at Praia da Luz, there are some who remember that one of the rituals that are practised by many catholics, namely in England, consists in visiting the tomb three months after someone's death. Curiously, on August 3, the day the McCanns "vanished" in Huelva, was three months to the day that their eldest daughter disappeared.
Policia Judiciaria already owns several images from the video surveillance system of petrol stations and highways, along with other locations where the Renault Scenic driven by Gerry McCann went through, which the investigators considered have "no apparent reason" to be.
The trip to Huelva was scheduled for August 2, a day when the McCanns were supposed to meet representatives from associations that are connected to missing children.
But the trip was delayed to the next day, allegedly because of "intestinal problems" of Gerry McCann, according to the justification that was then given by the couple's spokesperson, Justine McGuiness, who didn't travel with them that day.
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Mapleleaf wrote:Went out and successfully sold my motorcycle to fund hopefully my last trip to where I believe MM to be.
Best hit the hay now,
Mapleleaf
I am not a gambling man, but i would bet my cars that this 'last trip (indicating previous ones have also proved fruitless) is a complete waste of time.
That and the fact that all the evidence points to Madeleine being deceased prior to being removed from the apartment.
Oh, and the fact that non of the investigations currently on-going are putting even a hint of resources into following a boat and a Brazilian couple.
They are looking for (correctly or incorrectly) a lone paedo who killed (either intentionally or accidentally) Madeleine and removed her body from 5a
My advice....cancel the sale of your bike.
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Motorcycle for sale, low mileage, one careful owner, reason for sale, rescuing Madeleine McCann.woodforthetrees wrote:Mapleleaf wrote:Went out and successfully sold my motorcycle to fund hopefully my last trip to where I believe MM to be.
Best hit the hay now,
Mapleleaf
I am not a gambling man, but i would bet my cars that this 'last trip (indicating previous ones have also proved fruitless) is a complete waste of time.
That and the fact that all the evidence points to Madeleine being deceased prior to being removed from the apartment.
Oh, and the fact that non of the investigations currently on-going are putting even a hint of resources into following a boat and a Brazilian couple.
They are looking for (correctly or incorrectly) a lone paedo who killed (either intentionally or accidentally) Madeleine and removed her body from 5a
My advice....cancel the sale of your bike.
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aquila wrote:Motorcycle for sale, low mileage, one careful owner, reason for sale, rescuing Madeleine McCann.woodforthetrees wrote:Mapleleaf wrote:Went out and successfully sold my motorcycle to fund hopefully my last trip to where I believe MM to be.
Best hit the hay now,
Mapleleaf
I am not a gambling man, but i would bet my cars that this 'last trip (indicating previous ones have also proved fruitless) is a complete waste of time.
That and the fact that all the evidence points to Madeleine being deceased prior to being removed from the apartment.
Oh, and the fact that non of the investigations currently on-going are putting even a hint of resources into following a boat and a Brazilian couple.
They are looking for (correctly or incorrectly) a lone paedo who killed (either intentionally or accidentally) Madeleine and removed her body from 5a
My advice....cancel the sale of your bike.
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