Blacksmith

by scrants 05.12.14 14:49

I know Blacksmith is persona non grata but this is interesting.
Anyone know who Christine Callan is?

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Friday, 5 December 2014

Make up your own minds

For interrogation, with the option of being made arguido during the process
Christine Callan
Luis Antonio
Mario Marreiros
Michael Green
Robert Murat
Michael Walchzuch
Joaquim Marques
To be questioned as witnesses only:
Sylvia Batista
John Hill
Donna Hill
Tiago da Silva

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by jeanmonroe 05.12.14 15:10

For interrogation, with the option of being made arguido during the process
Christine Callan
Luis Antonio
Mario Marreiros
Michael Green
Robert Murat
Michael Walchzuch
Joaquim Marques
To be questioned as witnesses only:
Sylvia Batista
John Hill
Donna Hill
Tiago da Silva

at 13:52
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MichaelA Walchzuch.................surely?

WHO is Michael GREEN?

by scrants 05.12.14 15:21

WITNESS TWO

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e-fit created by the 12-year-old girl

The second witness was a 12-year-old girl who lives in Praia da Luz. She first saw the suspect on April 30 at 8.15am as she walked to a bus stop. She spotted him doing the same again at 12.25pm on May 2.

She said: "The man seemed to be looking at the balcony of the ground floor apartment. He was wearing a black jacket and leaning against the wall."

Verdict: This 'suspect' had already been found, named as MICHAEL ANTHONY GREEN and eliminated from the inquiry, with all details presented in the PJ files.

Taken from mccannfiles.

by aiyoyo 05.12.14 15:41

Interesting list !

[quote]For interrogation, with the option of being made arguido during the process

Christine Callan (Who?)
Luis Antonio (ex of Michael walchzuch)
Mario Marreiros - (laundry worker at the resort)
Michael Green No idea ? Gardener (perhaps)?
Robert Murat - (for interrogation with option of being made arguido if necessary during the process? surprise?)
Michael Walchzuch ditto the above
Joaquim Marques - (Pig farmer, Interesting! We know pigs can devour anything)

Most of them had been interviewed previously. I'd give anything to know why SY requested for them to be interrogated under arguido status until new prosecutor decided that would be the alternative option instead.

by jeanmonroe 05.12.14 16:02

aiyoyo wrote:

Joaquim Marques - (Pig farmer, Interesting! We know pigs can devour anything)
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But, STILL can't fly though, can they?

As Mr G Amaral well 'knows'! winkwink

by aiyoyo 05.12.14 17:26

jeanmonroe wrote:aiyoyo wrote:

Joaquim Marques - (Pig farmer, Interesting! We know pigs can devour anything)
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But, STILL can't fly though, can they?

As Mr G Amaral well 'knows'!

Yes, we know the cliche about pig and all that....

I'm more interested to know why the 'pig farmer' is of renewed interest to the SY?
What does SY hope to get out of him in the re-interview (hmmm interrogation rather)?
He'd been interviewed and eliminated (or so it seemed).
Put him in context with the rest of the 6 POI (option to become arguidos) it just does not add up.
How does he fit into the equation or mix of contigents connected to RM side?

Is SY looking at questioning laundry worker and gardener about what or who they saw on the 3rd around 5A vicinity, and if some out of the seven were involved in help to dispose of (you know what).

When you look at the identities of the named seven...you discern the direction (more or less) SY is going down....and it's nothing to do with burglators, IMO anyway.

by aiyoyo 05.12.14 17:39

scrants wrote:WITNESS TWO

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e-fit created by the 12-year-old girl

The second witness was a 12-year-old girl who lives in Praia da Luz. She first saw the suspect on April 30 at 8.15am as she walked to a bus stop. She spotted him doing the same again at 12.25pm on May 2.

She said: "The man seemed to be looking at the balcony of the ground floor apartment. He was wearing a black jacket and leaning against the wall."

Verdict: This 'suspect' had already been found, named as MICHAEL ANTHONY GREEN and eliminated from the inquiry, with all details presented in the PJ files.

Taken from mccannfiles.

He's one of POIs to be interviewed, the one reported in the Press as resembling one of the E-fits.

So was he the person seen by the Smiths family?
Coincidentally was he also seen earlier by others loitering around the apt vicinity?

Stranger and stranger.......
Do away with his specs and his general face outline does resemble one of the e-fits.....

by scrants 05.12.14 17:56

Joaquim Marques

I see he had dreadlocks. Didn't Jeremy Wilkins report seeing "rasta man" visiting the toilets on his walkabout?

Also, as we know, pigs will eat anything. Body disposal?
Just my opinion of course

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Revealed: 'Madeleine photofit man was jailed for raping British girl'17:52:32
Last updated at 15:34 25 January 2008

The man in the sketch of Madeleine McCann's alleged abductor has been identified as a pig farmer who raped a British tourist in the town where the three-year-old disappeared.

Joaquim Jose Marques raped his teenage victim while an accomplice targeted her friend, the Portuguese daily newspaper Diario de Noticias reported today.

Marques, who has a daughter of Madeleine's age, was sentenced to five years in jail in 1996 after being found guilty of the 1995 attack in Praia da Luz.
Just three weeks into the Madeleine investigation, which started in May last year, investigators ruled him out of any involvement in her disappearance.
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His unnamed accomplice was also convicted of rape in 1995, the Portuguese paper added.

The girls, both British and aged 17 and 18, were said to have been staying with a relative at the time.

Dreadlocked Marques, nicknamed Quim Ze, was also a known gun-runner and drug trafficker, the paper claimed.

He was linked to Madeleine's disappearance earlier this week after being identified from a new sketch of a man suspected of snatching her from her family's holiday flat in May last year.
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They interviewed him for a second time earlier this week after Kate and Gerry released an artist's sketch of the scruffy stranger seen by a British tourist in and around Praia da Luz in the days before the abduction.

Portuguese police ruled him out of the abduction but the McCanns spokesman Clarence Mitchell said they did not believe the right man had been found and said the hunt for the man in the drawing continued.
The Daily Mail yesterday tracked Mr Marques to his ramshackle farm in Pedragosa, four miles from the Algarve resort where Madeleine disappeared.
He refused to speak about the international hunt for the man shown in the posters - which have been sent to Interpol and to Portugal, Spain and North Africa.
He screamed obscenities at callers to the isolated farm and then returned brandishing an ancient-looking rifle.
Standing among his pigs and surrounded by feral dogs, Mr Marques shouted: "Leave me alone, leave me alone... look at this face, is this the face in the picture?"
Mr and Mrs McCann, both 39, believe the sketch could show the man who took their daughter from their holiday apartment in Praia da Luz.
It was drawn by an FBI trained forensic artist based on descriptions by British tourist Gail Cooper, who told police how a "creepy man" came to her villa in Praia da Luz, asking for donations for a nearby orphanage, only days before Madeleine went missing.

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Mrs Cooper, 50, of Newark, Nottinghamshire, said she saw the man three times, once when he was hanging around a children's beach outing.
Portuguese police have dismissed her sightings and the e-fit as having "no credibility" and say the McCanns are using them as a "diversion tactic".
They remain convinced Madeleine died last May 3 and that her parents were involved in her disappearance. Mr and Mrs McCann, of Rothley, are still official suspects in the case.
But the couple's private investigation agency Metodo 3 believe the sketch could show the abductor. Their hotline has received dozens of calls from those who think they have seen the man in the sketch.
A police source told the Portuguese newspaper Correio da Manha the image "could apply to many, many people," and said Mr Marques was not a suspect.
He said: "Contact with the individual was not in any shape or form an interrogation. It was just an informal contact to clear up any suspicions."
Neighbours described Mr Marques as a reclusive character who had moved to the isolated farm last year to live quietly with his British-born girlfriend and their daughter, who is three or four.

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by j.rob 05.12.14 18:22

aiyoyo wrote:
scrants wrote:WITNESS TWO

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e-fit created by the 12-year-old girl

The second witness was a 12-year-old girl who lives in Praia da Luz. She first saw the suspect on April 30 at 8.15am as she walked to a bus stop. She spotted him doing the same again at 12.25pm on May 2.

She said: "The man seemed to be looking at the balcony of the ground floor apartment. He was wearing a black jacket and leaning against the wall."

Verdict: This 'suspect' had already been found, named as MICHAEL ANTHONY GREEN and eliminated from the inquiry, with all details presented in the PJ files.

Taken from mccannfiles.

He's one of POIs to be interviewed, the one reported in the Press as resembling one of the E-fits.

So was he the person seen by the Smiths family?
Coincidentally was he also seen earlier by others loitering around the apt vicinity?

Stranger and stranger.......
Do away with his specs and his general face outline does resemble one of the e-fits.....

Interesting possibility.

by j.rob 05.12.14 18:25

Especially in view of this:

Portuguese police ruled him out of the abduction but the McCanns spokesman Clarence Mitchell said they did not believe the right man had been found and said the hunt for the man in the drawing continued.
The Daily Mail yesterday tracked Mr Marques to his ramshackle farm in Pedragosa, four miles from the Algarve resort where Madeleine disappeared.
He refused to speak about the international hunt for the man shown in the posters - which have been sent to Interpol and to Portugal, Spain and North Africa.
He screamed obscenities at callers to the isolated farm and then returned brandishing an ancient-looking rifle.
Standing among his pigs and surrounded by feral dogs, Mr Marques shouted: "Leave me alone, leave me alone... look at this face, is this the face in the picture?"

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Doth protest too much, perhaps? Or is was just terrified that he was going to be framed, which would be understandable, paticularly in view of his personal circumstances and his background.

by j.rob 05.12.14 18:31

Still, this is what the Portuguese police think:

Mrs Cooper, 50, of Newark, Nottinghamshire, said she saw the man three times, once when he was hanging around a children's beach outing.
Portuguese police have dismissed her sightings and the e-fit as having "no credibility" and say the McCanns are using them as a "diversion tactic".
They remain convinced Madeleine died last May 3 and that her parents were involved in her disappearance. Mr and Mrs McCann, of Rothley, are still official suspects in the case.

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I wonder why they think she died on 3rd May specifically? What sort of evidence would have lead them to the conclusion that it was the 3rd of May rather than earlier than that, say?

by lufc50337 05.12.14 19:33

GA has always stood by 17:30 on the 3rd May as the last definite sighting of M. Whatever it is that makes him so sure I trust, IMO it isn't the Nannies statements.

I know there has been a lot of work on the crèche records by some that conclude M wasn't at the creche but that work could still be correct and M was elsewhere.

by stillsloppingout 05.12.14 19:40

So Now we Have

Callan [ AKA Edward Woodwood Man !!

Luis Antonio Spanish Porn star Man !!

Mario Marreiros Super Mario Man !!

Michael Green The Green Man !!

Michael Walchzuch 20000 points at scrabble Man !!

Joaquim Marques the Marques of Sade Man

Sylvia Batista Y Viva Espagna woman

John Hill Hillman imp man

Donna Hill Hillman imp woman !!!

Tiago Da Silva Sounds like he plays for Man City Man !!!

Sorry i was bored ,some obscure references there !!! high5

by Montclair 05.12.14 20:08

Its Michaela Walchzuch, Murat's wife not Michael.

by missbeetle 05.12.14 20:46

Interesting stuff from Blacksmith...

Mr Quim Ze (Joaquim Marques) sounds like a very dodgy character and all-round Hard Man.

He's got a history of rape, gun-running and drug trafficking.

He's got a pack of feral dogs.

He's got a daughter the same age as Madeleine.

...and a British-born girlfriend.

My thoughts only.

Ps. found this - snipped from Joana Morais 26th January 2008, with thanks :

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by stillsloppingout 05.12.14 21:55

missbeetle wrote:Interesting stuff from Blacksmith...

Mr Quim Ze (Joaquim Marques) sounds like a very dodgy character and all-round Hard Man.

He's got a history of rape, gun-running and drug trafficking.

He's got a pack of feral dogs.

He's got a daughter the same age as Madeleine.

...and a British-born girlfriend.

My thoughts only.

Ps. found this - snipped from Joana Morais 26th January 2008, with thanks :

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Ive seen it all now Jesus Christ " abducted" Maddie . then again that is one person they have not accused yet so why not !!.

by NickE 05.12.14 21:56

scrants wrote:I know Blacksmith is persona non grata but this is interesting.
Anyone know who Christine Callan is?

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Could this be Christine Antonio, daughter to Luis Antonio and Michaela Walczuch?

Married?

Friday, 5 December 2014

Make up your own minds

For interrogation, with the option of being made arguido during the process
Christine Callan
Luis Antonio
Mario Marreiros
Michael Green
Robert Murat
Michael Walchzuch
Joaquim Marques
To be questioned as witnesses only:
Sylvia Batista
John Hill
Donna Hill
Tiago da Silva

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by **PeterMac** 05.12.14 22:16

j.rob wrote:
]He screamed obscenities at callers to the isolated farm and then returned brandishing an ancient-looking rifle.
Standing among his pigs and surrounded by feral dogs, Mr Marques shouted: "Leave me alone, leave me alone... look at this face, is this the face in the picture?"[/size][/b]

IF you were surrounded by McCann supporters and their combined hatred, abuse and vilification, alll recorded for posterity on the internet, screenshots, and WayBack machine, would not YOU shout Leave me alone.
Brenda tried to get away, but her accusers, the McCanns, the McCann extended family, (and we believe we know which person the fat ankles belong to . . .)
Mitchell, the wide Family, Sky, and Brunt, did not leave her alone, and she is now dead.

SHE IS NOW DEAD. read that Pro-McCanns and weep, or rejoice, if that is your personal fetish. we have seen several stange fetishes in the extended family, haven't we . . . .
Hope you are reading this ! Those of you on the 10pm - 6am, shift, put it up on twitter

by **PeterMac** 05.12.14 22:16

j.rob wrote:
]He screamed obscenities at callers to the isolated farm and then returned brandishing an ancient-looking rifle.
Standing among his pigs and surrounded by feral dogs, Mr Marques shouted: "Leave me alone, leave me alone... look at this face, is this the face in the picture?"[/size][/b]

IF you were surrounded by McCann supporters and their combined hatred, abuse and vilification, alll recorded for posterity on the internet, screenshots, and WayBack machine, would not YOU shout Leave me alone.
Brenda tried to get away, but her accusers, the McCanns, the McCann extended family, (and we believe we know which person the fat ankles belong to . . .)
Mitchell, the wide Family, Sky, and Brunt, did not leave her alone, and she is now dead.

SHE IS NOW DEAD. read that Pro-McCanns and weep, or rejoice, if that is your personal fetish. we have seen several stange fetishes in the extended family, haven't we . . . .
Hope you are reading this ! Those of you on the 10pm - 6am, shift, put it up on twitter

by scrants 05.12.14 22:38

NickE wrote:
scrants wrote:I know Blacksmith is persona non grata but this is interesting.
Anyone know who Christine Callan is?

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Could this be Christine Antonio, daughter to Luis Antonio and Michaela Walczuch?

Married?

She he was only 8 in 2007

Friday, 5 December 2014

Make up your own minds

For interrogation, with the option of being made arguido during the process
Christine Callan
Luis Antonio
Mario Marreiros
Michael Green
Robert Murat
Michael Walchzuch
Joaquim Marques
To be questioned as witnesses only:
Sylvia Batista
John Hill
Donna Hill
Tiago da Silva

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by aiyoyo 06.12.14 8:22

How Christian Callan was missed in the preliminary rounds is a total mystery.
Her name is now top of the list? Random perhaps?

by Guest 06.12.14 8:41

aiyoyo wrote:How Christian Callan was missed in the preliminary rounds is a total mystery.
Her name is now top of the list? Random perhaps?

Who is this person that Blacksmith has listed?

by aiyoyo 06.12.14 8:45

Ladyinred wrote:
aiyoyo wrote:How Christian Callan was missed in the preliminary rounds is a total mystery.
Her name is now top of the list? Random perhaps?
Who is this person that Blacksmith has listed?

No clue. Russian cat burglar ?
I'm excited a new unknown is on the list.
They didn't just conjure her name out of thin air surely?
Must have some strong evidence-basis to want to interrogate her as potential arguido?

by ultimaThule 06.12.14 9:09

PeterMac wrote:
j.rob wrote:
]He screamed obscenities at callers to the isolated farm and then returned brandishing an ancient-looking rifle.
Standing among his pigs and surrounded by feral dogs, Mr Marques shouted: "Leave me alone, leave me alone... look at this face, is this the face in the picture?"[/size][/b]

IF you were surrounded by McCann supporters and their combined hatred, abuse and vilification, alll recorded for posterity on the internet, screenshots, and WayBack machine, would not YOU shout Leave me alone.
Brenda tried to get away, but her accusers, the McCanns, the McCann extended family, (and we believe we know which person the fat ankles belong to . . .)
Mitchell, the wide Family, Sky, and Brunt, did not leave her alone, and she is now dead.

SHE IS NOW DEAD. read that Pro-McCanns and weep, or rejoice, if that is your personal fetish. we have seen several stange fetishes in the extended family, haven't we . . . .
Hope you are reading this ! Those of you on the 10pm - 6am, shift, put it up on twitter

How many antis on the McCanns' hitlist did Martin Brunt check out before he chose to doorstep Brenda Leyland and use unadulterated footage of his encounter with her in his Sky News report while ensuring that the face of ~~Philyerboots~~ Ms Fat Ankles was obscured?

I venture to suggest that if Brenda had been been in possession of a pack of feral dogs and a shotgun it's highly unlikely Brunt would have turned up on her doorstep and, furthermore, if Brenda had been a Brendan he wouldn't have ventured anywhere near Burton Overy, with or without a cameraman, PeterM..

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by Woofer 06.12.14 9:49

Wonder if Christine Callan is the tourist who saw a man carrying a child while talking on his phone in English?

"The description given by a British holidaymaker coincides with one of the suspects who lives nearby. The woman saw him speaking in English on the phone, as he passed, carrying the child in his arms."

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Whatever, Christine Callan must be living in Portugal now otherwise SY wouldn`t be interviewing her there.

by **PeterMac** 06.12.14 10:45

ultimaThule wrote:
I venture to suggest that if Brenda had been been in possession of a pack of feral dogs and a shotgun it's highly unlikely Brunt would have turned up on her doorstep and, furthermore, if Brenda had been a Brendan he wouldn't have ventured anywhere near Burton Overy, with or without a cameraman, PeterM..
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Quite so. Someone had done the research. Someone knew there was not a mentally unstable husband in possession of a shotgun on the premises . . .
It would be lovely to see the tables turned.
Perhaps someone at the inquest will do whatever is necessary outside !

by MrsC 06.12.14 12:19

scrants wrote:I know Blacksmith is persona non grata but this is interesting.
Anyone know who Christine Callan is?

I've got a very distant memory, right back from the very beginning of this saga...

I seem to recall that Mrs McCann asked if a 'very nice lady' she had met at the pool, after Madeleine had been 'taken', would come forward as she would like to be in contact with her.

Wonder if that lady ever did come forward. Could she be Christine Callan?

I haven't had time to read this thread properly and don't know if the question regarding this lady has been answered or not. Anyway, can anyone else remember Mrs McCann asking for a woman to come forward? Perhaps I just imagined it.

by sallypelt 06.12.14 13:23

Woofer wrote:Wonder if Christine Callan is the tourist who saw a man carrying a child while talking on his phone in English?

"The description given by a British holidaymaker coincides with one of the suspects who lives nearby. The woman saw him speaking in English on the phone, as he passed, carrying the child in his arms."

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Whatever, Christine Callan must be living in Portugal now otherwise SY wouldn`t be interviewing her there.

There is a Paul Callan, who writes for the Mirror. There is also another member of the family with the name Christine Callan. I'll leave the rest to you budding sleuths thumbsup

by lufc50337 06.12.14 15:19

As none of us were aware of Christine Callan that leaves only so many options:-

Her original statement was held back on the release of the PJ files, something new has come to light connected to her or ?

by Guest 06.12.14 15:25

sallypelt wrote:
Woofer wrote:Wonder if Christine Callan is the tourist who saw a man carrying a child while talking on his phone in English?

"The description given by a British holidaymaker coincides with one of the suspects who lives nearby. The woman saw him speaking in English on the phone, as he passed, carrying the child in his arms."

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Whatever, Christine Callan must be living in Portugal now otherwise SY wouldn`t be interviewing her there.

There is a Paul Callan, who writes for the Mirror. There is also another member of the family with the name Christine Callan. I'll leave the rest to you budding sleuths