Re: Ambersuz and Debbie gloat over the possibility that Tony Bennett will be in trouble from Carter-Ruck

by Janz 02.12.09 15:52

Sorry to disappoint you Woodward. but I am the same. would you like me to go and post something on JATYK , or in fact, Jill will confirm it Im sure.

If you had so much respect for me, why are you attacking me on here? Why dont you accept what has been done to me and my family?

by WOODWARD 02.12.09 15:54

your absolutely right JANZ I am disappointed but you live and learn

Htt -GIVE IT UP -you lied about me

by heresthetruth 02.12.09 15:55

Woodward, when I say flounce I mean left, I was indeed in the SS I saw the thread about the Kirwans meeting, How Fsoares always posted in that section, rarely on the main section, I admit I didnt see you bitching, but I never asked you that, I asked were you in the SS and you denied it and called me a LIAR,
There was a thread about Bonnybreas, Bigmummy, Sans souci, to name a few, a thread titled WE HAVE LITIGATION, so you see Woodward I was indeed sat in the SS all the time. now I have said you wasnt joining the bitchfest I have been truthfull, just apologise for calling me a LIAR

by Janz 02.12.09 15:57

WOODWARD wrote:your absolutely right JANZ I am disappointed but you live and learn

So you have never reached a point when you`ve taken so much, and cant take any more other than fighting back?

What exactly are you disappointed about?

ETA you wouldnt retaliate to someone who put your child, and your whole family, in danger?

by heresthetruth 02.12.09 16:05

Typical bitching post from the SS discussing the member Popcorn

carlymichelle
fishie wrote:
It could just be someone with the same nic over there,as that Popcorn claims to have been on holiday.Anyway Carly I thought you'd given up looking at what that bunch of old hags are up too?

i had but i do look to make sure they dont talk about me and they do still i have been screencapping what they say about me but your right it could be a coincicdence fishie and i know i shouldnt care what they say about me but i do care why are they allowed to slander me and yet others like tony and debbie etc get silenced for saying the truth abpout the mcanns

Re: amber thanks for exposing the trolls ip!!!
Ambersuz
I would not to this to just anyone but I think its high time I showed my teeth here!

They want to expose us all on their forums well lets give them a taste back of what we will do to trolls.

They keep acusing Bren and Photon and the rest for sharing info when I've never seen it but I have seen them and their friends expose others....now posting IP's isnt going to show their real names or addresses and half the IP's are proxies anyway but it shows we are fighting back and by doing that they will think again when registering on this forum and others!

I dont want comments on that thread as the IP's will get lost in comments so I want it there as a reference only

by Guest 02.12.09 16:05

WOODWARD wrote:CLARITY ,Do you know why bonnybraes,janz and co suddenly went over to the dakside when they left 3A,S. ?

Maybe they saw which way the wind is blowing, gawd only knows, perhaps they saw the light and realised that what they had been doing for a year or so was immoral and nasty, maybe they finally read the files rather than the spun versions given to them by those with an agenda to mislead, maybe they just wanted to lay into some new meat, who can tell with that crowd?

by WOODWARD 02.12.09 16:07

Disappointed that you didnt simply report the things that happened to you to the police and not let the appalling behaviour of one individual convince you that everything her forum members said must be untrue

by heresthetruth 02.12.09 16:08

Maybe they are questioning why the translations are wrong and why theres censorship on the Maddiecasefiles.

by scrafen 02.12.09 16:09

Sabot wrote:More distortions, but you carry on if it pleases you to spend your days doing this. No one that matters actually believes this garbage any more.

im still wondering, why there is not ONE site from one of the desperate and so convinced pro's, correcting these statements then, with sort of Q&A page etc...

why not ? i dont know why syms claims are distortion etc... and many others neither do...

there are so many pros, so deeply dedicated to the case, why then is there not ONE site, proving all these myths wrong - logically - and linking to some site ?

some months ago, when i googled the pt-text of katherina and arul Gs statements, there was not ONE hit for it. just weird anti-translations. nothing from pro's.

so, you found out, that (a), (b), (c) are all myths, rumours ,distortions, and all you lot can do, is posting up jjps alleged porn pics, being keen on closing forums, outing laffin assassin and blaming photon at work.

thats more sad than the antis.

by Guest 02.12.09 16:10

baconbutty wrote:WOODWARD, I have been as mystified as you about this.

Two ex-mods get together to run a blog and then a forum. One of them in particular is known for being a staunch anti. They've got together on this project because they have been treated badly by the admin they used to mod for. And fair play to them for that, because that admin should never be let anywhere near a forum, let alone run one. I'd be angry too.

But suddenly, they have a change of mind over the McCanns. Why? This is a subject which polarises opinion to the extreme. I cannot believe that one wakes up one morning and thinks: "The 3As is being run by a lousy, underhand team, therefore I now deduce that the McCanns are innocent of all blame, and from now on I'm going to hate and denigrate everyone who doesn't support them!"

It just doesn't add up.

A lot of people were mislead regarding the evidence and they were mislead by strong personalities and a complete denial of balance, several people who went to other forums and saw 3As from the outside changed their views, not only on the behaviour of the admin and mod team (which was bullying in the extreme) but also the facts of the case because they were able to read them, to think about them and to ask questions without fear of being banned for being off message.

Once removed from the hysterical single issue atmosphere people generally realise that the chances of parental involvement are beyond immeasureably slim and unlikely and the evidence doesn't support it and just because one might disapprove of another parents choice of childcare does not mean that by definition they are monsters, just different, the way we all are.

by WOODWARD 02.12.09 16:17

the forum bloggers didnt invent cooperman or jemmied shutters or unlocked patio doors or barking dogs or the distance between the tepas bar and the apartments being a bigger back garden than the one behind buckingham palace-and on it goes ,spin spin spin-i am dizzy -going for an overdue lunch

by Janz 02.12.09 16:17

WOODWARD wrote:Disappointed that you didnt simply report the things that happened to you to the police and not let the appalling behaviour of one individual convince you that everything her forum members said must be untrue

What on earth are you talking about?

Of course I went to the police, and I also have a lawyer working on my case. Also why do you think the Department of Justice are also involved?

Where did I ever say all the forum members said were untrue? A lot of ex-3a members are members of my forum, where we manage to discuss all sorts of subjects perfectly civilly. I dont understand why you think Im saying everything was untrue? I think youre seeing what you want to see and not whats actually written.

As I already told you, I havent changed my mind about the case. I just changed my mind about people I thought were dear friends, who I trusted, but who turned out to be backstabbers and liars, and only on the forum for their own egos, which I certainly was not.

by Janz 02.12.09 16:18

WOODWARD wrote:the forum bloggers didnt invent cooperman or jemmied shutters or unlocked patio doors or barking dogs or the distance between the tepas bar and the apartments being a bigger back garden than the one behind buckingham palace-and on it goes ,spin spin spin-i am dizzy -going for an overdue lunch

Did I ever say they invented them? I think all that is rubbish, just the same as you do

by scrafen 02.12.09 16:20

clarity wrote:sym seems only to have believed what the tabloids told her, she is not alone in that, Mr Bennett being the most high profile victim of such nonsense<...>

question, just out of curiousity:
what did you believe (or think of the case) until the files were published, and where did you get the information from to form your opinion ?

by scrafen 02.12.09 16:23

deleted. just saw janz post

by Guest 02.12.09 16:25

WOODWARD wrote:the forum bloggers didnt invent cooperman or jemmied shutters or unlocked patio doors or barking dogs or the distance between the tepas bar and the apartments being a bigger back garden than the one behind buckingham palace-and on it goes ,spin spin spin-i am dizzy -going for an overdue lunch

No but the forums ensures there was a feeling of distrust when perfectly straightforward stuff was being reported, this is spin.

A drawing by Mrs Cooper shouldn't be anything more than what it was, a possibility in a crime that may or may not be relevant, the fact that certain forums set about discrediting it so intently is bizarre.

An assumption that when someone illegally enters an apartment did it illegally through a window and shutter from the outside, is normal, people make mistakes, this was a false assumption, one of many that will have been made on that night alone let alone the hundreds of thousands made nightly across thw world, to twist it into something more sinister without reason, is disturbing to witness.

Every single newspaper journalist estmated the distance from apartment to tapas incorrectly, the fact that forums sat and blamed the McCanns for mistakes also made by several dozen unrelated journalists is shocking.

The description you are mocking is that it was like dining in ones back garden, something that has been said hundreds of times by hundreds of different individuals, the fact that forums ignore this and instead pretend that only the Mccanns have ever done such a thing, is worrying and obsessive and twisted.

Are you ever likely to see how deep you are? Unlikely, and that's fine, you can be obsessive and singular and lack understanding, logic, reason and sanity as long as you don't damage others with it.

by WOODWARD 02.12.09 16:29

JANZ-I was replying to another poster in my previous post. I am glad you involved the police and though am puzzled as to which department of justice you are referring to ,a complaint to the police via your lawyer should be sufficient and I sincerely hope that anyone who would stoop so low as to harrass you and/or your children will be called to account. I am surprised,even more so ,that following such a stressful and dreadful experience you would so gleefully join the cyberbashing of individuals that goes on at JATYK-truly baffled,very hungry,wishing you personally no ill will signing off for today

by Guest 02.12.09 16:30

scrafen wrote:
clarity wrote:sym seems only to have believed what the tabloids told her, she is not alone in that, Mr Bennett being the most high profile victim of such nonsense<...>

question, just out of curiousity:
what did you believe (or think of the case) until the files were published, and where did you get the information from to form your opinion ?

I'm sure you have asked me this elsewhere, back where you were better behaved.

I was completely flummoxed by it, the stuff reported in the press was so damning yet when you read the articles carefully it was clear these stories came from unnamed sources and were contradicted every day in the same publications and didn't seem to fit any of the official information that we knew so I knew from the off the press was having a field day and were not acting responsibly but I assumed there was a little of of no smoke without fire, even me, miss cynical wasn't prepared to think the tabloids would just print anything for the sales.

Of course when the files were made public it very soon became clear that all the rumours and leaks and stories in the media had been wrong, as I had dreaded.

So I went from being completely on the fence to being completely horrified that so much damage had been done and all for short term money making gains.... shameful.

by sina 02.12.09 16:31

Just for the record, I (or Janz) haven't turned into anything, let alone 'pro'. I am still very suspicious about the McCann's version of events and I am still utterly bewildered by the way the conducted themselves following the alleged 'abduction' of their child.

However, after all this time (and as I presume that Madeleine most like was not abducted) I can not dedicate my life to this sad case. The world is full of injustice, deceit and mysteries, but more importantly, there are many more ways to make a difference for children in a very real and tangible way. I only wish some of the so called 'finders of truth and justice' of dedicated forums would step away from their cushy keyboards and into reality for a change....

by Janz 02.12.09 16:35

The Justice Department were involved via the Chaosraptors site, not me . They were investigating obscene emails and death threats, also stalking of Majic, his realtives and housemate. All were traced back to3A.

The Justice department were mentioned in a letter Majic received from his MP, who had passed the relevent info to them

by aiyoyo 02.12.09 16:37

WOODWARD wrote:CLARITY ,Do you know why bonnybraes,janz and co suddenly went over to the dakside when they left 3A,S. ?

Personally I dont believe they SUDDENLY went over to the darkside. It's just a front.

They are just not being candid. Just a thought you know...

by Guest 02.12.09 16:39

You mean - TEAM MCCANN all along? wow

by Guest 02.12.09 16:39

Besides there is no 'darkside' it's simply people who want to hang draw and quarter people on the basis of tabloid rumour (and to threaten, intimidate and out anyone who gets in their way) and those who support the notion of justice and evidence and law and defending the innocent.

by heresthetruth 02.12.09 16:40

You have read this thread I take it, do you want to go over it again for luck.

by Janz 02.12.09 16:42

nologo wrote:You mean - TEAM MCCANN all along?

Nologo, you guessed :flower:

lol!

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