Re: BOOK ALREADY HALF PRICE ON AMAZON ! !

by bobbin 21.09.14 10:28

Does anyone know, have the McCs ever sued the Sun ?

by **Tony Bennett** 21.09.14 11:43

Since...

1. Rupert Murdoch and his minions are very close to the Madeleine McCann story in all sorts of ways, and

2. Rupert Murdoch is clearly sponsoring Summers & Swan and probably has been for some time, and

3. Paedophilia is a topic raised time and again in this case, not least by Jim Gamble, former boss of CEOP...

...I trust this article about one of Rupert Murdoch's closest friends will not seem 'off-topic':

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NOTW editor 'spiked paedophilia scoop on Arthur C Clarke for fear of Murdoch'

BOOK ALREADY HALF PRICE ON AMAZON ! ! - Page 6 9-Murdoch-Reuters

BOOK ALREADY HALF PRICE ON AMAZON ! ! - Page 6 9-Murdoch-Reuters

Ex-reporter claims story never ran because the sci-fi author was the proprietor's friend

MARTIN HICKMAN

Saturday 07 July 2012

The News of the World spiked an exclusive story exposing the science fiction writer Arthur C Clarke as a paedophile, according to a new book about life inside the newspaper whose closure was announced a year ago today.

In Hack, an account of his nerve-shredding days as a reporter on the News of the World and then the Sunday Mirror, Graham Johnson claims that although the NOTW prided itself on outing pederasts, editors made an exception for Mr Clarke because he was a friend of Rupert Murdoch.

Through BSkyB, the tycoon commercially exploited the futurologist's theory that satellites would be ideal for communications and praised him in public.

As a result, according to Mr Johnson, who by that time had been sacked by the NOTW and had joined the Sunday Mirror, a story by reporter Roger Insall about Mr Clarke's alleged abuse of adolescent boys was never published for fear of upsetting the proprietor.

Tipped off about the story, the Sunday Mirror sent Mr Johnson to Colombo, where he extracted an confession from the author that he paid boys for sex. "I have never had the slightest interest in children – boys or girls. They should be treated in the same way. But once they have reached the age of puberty, then it is OK," Mr Clarke was quoted as saying in the Sunday Mirror. "If the kids enjoy it and don't mind it doesn't do any harm … there is a hysteria about the whole thing in the West."

Mr Clarke subsequently denied he was a paedophile, saying: "The allegations are wholly denied." But he never sued the Sunday Mirror and died aged 90 at his Sri Lanka home in 2008.

Speaking to The Independent yesterday, Mr Johnson said: "Roger [Insall] said that because Arthur C Clarke was a mate of Rupert Murdoch, the editor wasn't having any of it and despite Roger getting a lot of evidence that Clarke was a paedophile they wouldn't publish it."

Yesterday, Phil Hall, the then editor, said: "I can vaguely remember that story. I do remember that Roger Insall worked on it and I remember it was not published. My only recollection is that the only reason we wouldn't publish it was because of legal reasons."

He said Mr Murdoch never asked him to spike stories. News International, publisher of the NOTW, made no comment.

by bobbin 21.09.14 12:09

Tony Bennett wrote:Since...

1. Rupert Murdoch and his minions are very close to the Madeleine McCann story in all sorts of ways, and

2. Rupert Murdoch is clearly sponsoring Summers & Swan and probably has been for some time, and

3. Paedophilia is a topic raised time and again in this case, not least by Jim Gamble, former boss of CEOP...

...I trust this article about one of Rupert Murdoch's closest friends will not seem 'off-topic':

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NOTW editor 'spiked paedophilia scoop on Arthur C Clarke for fear of Murdoch'

Ex-reporter claims story never ran because the sci-fi author was the proprietor's friend

MARTIN HICKMAN

Saturday 07 July 2012

The News of the World spiked an exclusive story exposing the science fiction writer Arthur C Clarke as a paedophile, according to a new book about life inside the newspaper whose closure was announced a year ago today.

In Hack, an account of his nerve-shredding days as a reporter on the News of the World and then the Sunday Mirror, Graham Johnson claims that although the NOTW prided itself on outing pederasts, editors made an exception for Mr Clarke because he was a friend of Rupert Murdoch.

Through BSkyB, the tycoon commercially exploited the futurologist's theory that satellites would be ideal for communications and praised him in public.

As a result, according to Mr Johnson, who by that time had been sacked by the NOTW and had joined the Sunday Mirror, a story by reporter Roger Insall about Mr Clarke's alleged abuse of adolescent boys was never published for fear of upsetting the proprietor.

Tipped off about the story, the Sunday Mirror sent Mr Johnson to Colombo, where he extracted an confession from the author that he paid boys for sex. "I have never had the slightest interest in children – boys or girls. They should be treated in the same way. But once they have reached the age of puberty, then it is OK," Mr Clarke was quoted as saying in the Sunday Mirror. "If the kids enjoy it and don't mind it doesn't do any harm … there is a hysteria about the whole thing in the West."

Mr Clarke subsequently denied he was a paedophile, saying: "The allegations are wholly denied." But he never sued the Sunday Mirror and died aged 90 at his Sri Lanka home in 2008.

Speaking to The Independent yesterday, Mr Johnson said: "Roger [Insall] said that because Arthur C Clarke was a mate of Rupert Murdoch, the editor wasn't having any of it and despite Roger getting a lot of evidence that Clarke was a paedophile they wouldn't publish it."

Yesterday, Phil Hall, the then editor, said: "I can vaguely remember that story. I do remember that Roger Insall worked on it and I remember it was not published. My only recollection is that the only reason we wouldn't publish it was because of legal reasons."

He said Mr Murdoch never asked him to spike stories. News International, publisher of the NOTW, made no comment.

And here are 4 articles from the Mailonline, referring to dossiers being handed over, special branch intervention, information prevented from being published, names of top politicians etc.
Thank goodness the Mail is now covering it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2698820/Murdered-Crimewatch-presenter-Jill-Dando-tried-bosses-investigate-alleged-paeodphile-ring-inside-BBC-no-one-wanted-know.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2697947/Chilling-day-Special-Branch-swooped-seize-ANOTHER-dossier-VIP-abusers-16-MPs-names-mentioned-1984-report-paedophile-lobby-s-influence-Westminster.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2689462/Did-Maggie-know-closest-aide-preying-age-boys.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2698634/Esther-Rantzen-My-shock-MP-lovers-links-Elm-House-paedophile-ring.html

by aiyoyo 21.09.14 14:05

BlueBag wrote:
Brian Griffin wrote:LOOKING FOR MADELEINE,
...civil discussion or exchange of views will be welcomed...

This is a 100% lie.

Several people have asked reasonable civil questions and they have been deleted.

At par with Gerry's statement- people are free to purport theories.

Birds of a feather......

by Guest 21.09.14 15:34

WOW!!!!

I have had ALL perfectly civil comments and questions deleted from Facebook AND NOW I have been blocked from posting any more comments on their page.

Summers and Swann - LIARS!

They are not interested in debate and exchange of views.

They said they were.

by **PeterMac** 21.09.14 15:42

BlueBag wrote:WOW!!!!
I have had ALL perfectly civil comments and questions deleted from Facebook AND NOW I have been blocked from posting any more comments on their page.

Join the long list of Whooshees

by Guest 21.09.14 15:48

PeterMac wrote:
BlueBag wrote:WOW!!!!
I have had ALL perfectly civil comments and questions deleted from Facebook AND NOW I have been blocked from posting any more comments on their page.

Join the long list of Whooshees

I'm honoured.

But seriously, this says everything about them.

by **PeterMac** 21.09.14 17:46

BlueBag wrote:
PeterMac wrote:
BlueBag wrote:WOW!!!!
I have had ALL perfectly civil comments and questions deleted from Facebook AND NOW I have been blocked from posting any more comments on their page.
Join the long list of Whooshees
I'm honoured.
But seriously, this says everything about them.

Yes it does. For investigative journalists who have written the "definitive account' not to be able to respond to simple questions about shutters, windows, curtains, changes of story, points of entry, point of exit, window of opportunity, dogs, missing bags, smiling, laughing, let alone the reasons behind the changes of story and the downright LIES. . .
is very strange,
Or as we know - NOT very strange.

It must rank alongside the inability of the McCanns to write TB off as a nutter, and to refuse to dignify his pamphlet with a comment.
It must rank alongsire the inability of the Mccanns to write Dr Amaral off as merely incompetent and wrong.
But they didn't and can't
Because, as with Summers-and-rex-Swann, people are saying things which hit home, and are too uncomfortable for them all.

Now watch and wait. Something else is being prepared by someone else, and I have been allowed a sneak pre-view.

by Guest 21.09.14 18:05

PeterMac wrote:Now watch and wait. Something else is being prepared by someone else, and I have been allowed a sneak pre-view.

by Guest 21.09.14 18:17

PeterMac wrote:Now watch and wait. Something else is being prepared by someone else, and I have been allowed a sneak pre-view.

Peter, I trust your judgement totally. You are one of the good guys.

I look forward to this.

by bobbin 21.09.14 18:22

PeterMac wrote:
BlueBag wrote:
PeterMac wrote:
BlueBag wrote:WOW!!!!
I have had ALL perfectly civil comments and questions deleted from Facebook AND NOW I have been blocked from posting any more comments on their page.
Join the long list of Whooshees
I'm honoured.
But seriously, this says everything about them.

Yes it does. For investigative journalists who have written the "definitive account' not to be able to respond to simple questions about shutters, windows, curtains, changes of story, points of entry, point of exit, window of opportunity, dogs, missing bags, smiling, laughing, let alone the reasons behind the changes of story and the downright LIES. . .
is very strange,
Or as we know - NOT very strange.

It must rank alongside the inability of the McCanns to write TB off as a nutter, and to refuse to dignify his pamphlet with a comment.
It must rank alongsire the inability of the Mccanns to write Dr Amaral off as merely incompetent and wrong.
But they didn't and can't
Because, as with Summers-and-rex-Swann, people are saying things which hit home, and are too uncomfortable for them all.

Now watch and wait. Something else is being prepared by someone else, and I have been allowed a sneak pre-view.

An arrest warrant perchance ?
Ah, dommage, thought not, but trust in truth and justice still springs eternal pray2

by **sharonl** 21.09.14 20:08

Gerry McCann to Ian Woods 25 May 2007

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id212.html

Gerry McCann wrote:You know it's an ongoing investigation which has huge resources both from the Portuguese and the British. They're working very very closely with lots of expert help and I know there's hundreds of pieces of information continuing to come forward

by Brian Griffin 21.09.14 22:22

PeterMac wrote:Now watch and wait. Something else is being prepared by someone else, and I have been allowed a sneak pre-view.

You old tease, you!

by XTC 21.09.14 23:18

Yes indeed - the " Definitive account "

Definitive to whom?

I was going to buy this book but from where I'm reading I may as well read definitive accounts ranging from Kier Simmond to Lorraine Kelly.

The definitive account ( legally speaking ) is in the archived PJ files sitting alongside the AG's definitive account of the reasons for shelving the case.

It sounds as though their definition was arrived at by gossip and conjecture on blogs and websites.

I've done that, so await my next book on the matter. Once I've done the necessary plagiaring and trawling.

It will ceratinly get a nomination for the Pulltheotherone ( sorry the Pulitzer ) prize.

Like everything else in this wretched mess it appears to be no more than opinion. Just that.

Mine and everyone else's opinion is just as valid.

Difference is is that we can't get News Corporation to cough up the upfront cash.

p..s for our definitive analysers of 9/11 try this:

On your driving test in a mini you took a sharp left turn to drive the car between a ten foot gap.

The following day you are asked to put a very big articulated lorry through a fifteen foot gap.

You can drive alright but can you put the big lorry through the gap without smashing the wall
down or killing yourself in the process?

That's what the pilots on 9/11 managed to do.

All opinion though.

by Okeydokey 22.09.14 1:45

Brian Griffin wrote:
PeterMac wrote:Now watch and wait. Something else is being prepared by someone else, and I have been allowed a sneak pre-view.
You old tease, you!

But we like it!

by Guest 22.09.14 10:12

Tony Bennett wrote:
2. Rupert Murdoch is clearly sponsoring Summers & Swan and probably has been for some time, and

That's all well and good, but they have to have some motivation to give their previously good names to such patent, palpable garbage. I've heard it said that there are only two basic motivators in life - fear, and greed. So which is it with them?

by nglfi 22.09.14 10:59

Doing a google search for the book is quite interesting. There is the amazon listing for it, one article each from the express, Telegraph and one other paper I can't recall, and the rest of the results are criticism of the book. I don't think the book has had quite the impact the authors hoped, it doesn't seem that there's a lot of interest. I'm sure I also read that the book was going to be serialised in the Sun, now I don't buy that paper but I did see one in my local takeaway the other day and it wasn't in there. Does anyone know if it is a weekly thing or was I mistaken?

by Guest 22.09.14 11:21

nglfi wrote:Doing a google search for the book is quite interesting. There is the amazon listing for it, one article each from the express, Telegraph and one other paper I can't recall, and the rest of the results are criticism of the book. I don't think the book has had quite the impact the authors hoped, it doesn't seem that there's a lot of interest. I'm sure I also read that the book was going to be serialised in the Sun, now I don't buy that paper but I did see one in my local takeaway the other day and it wasn't in there. Does anyone know if it is a weekly thing or was I mistaken?

I read the Sun that some one else buys at work and it was in there a couple of days before the release of the book,haven't seen anything since,even then there was no headline just a page deep in the paper.

by HelenMeg 22.09.14 11:58

Clay Regazzoni wrote:
Tony Bennett wrote:
2. Rupert Murdoch is clearly sponsoring Summers & Swan and probably has been for some time, and

That's all well and good, but they have to have some motivation to give their previously good names to such patent, palpable garbage. I've heard it said that there are only two basic motivators in life - fear, and greed. So which is it with them?

It is puzzling - because potentially it is what they will become known for and it will affect sales of any other books they may create in the future.
I honestly think that they probably were paid heartily for it - and did not realise the extent to which there are people out there who would be critical. In other words, they didnt realise what they were getting themselves into. So probably greed.

by jeanmonroe 22.09.14 12:15

jmo;

This 'book' WAS 'supposed' to 'coincide' with the 'final' libel case court 'summing up' in Portugal.

BUT the ENTIRE damned 'pesky' Portuguese Legal system 'conspired' to 'hamper/thwart' that! laughat

Given todays 'news' that 500 HUNDRED UK police 'officers' were 'connected' to paedophilia IN the UK, i'd suggest DCI Mahogany's 'time' would be better 'spent' rooting out the CORRUPT, disgusting, fellow UK police 'officers' who were/are 'involved' in the disgusting 'acts' of child abuse, rape and paedophilia IN the UK!

"Dozens of the POLICE officers were jailed for depraved offences including child abuse and rape."

HOW MANY OF THESE DISGUSTING POLICE OFFICERS WERE 'EMPLOYED' BY THE METROPOLITAN POLICE, OF WHICH, DCI MAHOGANY, IS, I PRESUME, SO PROUD TO 'SERVE' IN?

Instead of TELLING the Portuguese Nation how to stop paedophilia in THEIR country!

"Remove the plank from your own eye", Mr DCI Mahogany, "before attempting to remove the speck of sawdust, from another's eye!"

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/more-500-police-officers-disciplined-4301032

by nglfi 22.09.14 12:35

WMD wrote:
nglfi wrote:Doing a google search for the book is quite interesting. There is the amazon listing for it, one article each from the express, Telegraph and one other paper I can't recall, and the rest of the results are criticism of the book. I don't think the book has had quite the impact the authors hoped, it doesn't seem that there's a lot of interest. I'm sure I also read that the book was going to be serialised in the Sun, now I don't buy that paper but I did see one in my local takeaway the other day and it wasn't in there. Does anyone know if it is a weekly thing or was I mistaken?
I read the Sun that some one else buys at work and it was in there a couple of days before the release of the book,haven't seen anything since,even then there was no headline just a page deep in the paper.

Perhaps they gauged response to it and realised it wasn't a money spinner, and decided not to continue with the extracts! I think the fuss over this 'book' will die down quite soon and we will all resume the status quo. Contrary to their statements, they haven't released any new information or changed interpretation of the case. It seems to be a slightly less well put together version of the bewk. Those that understood the dog's findings will still understand them and not be swayed. Unfortunately, s##t sticks and even to the uninitiated reader they will not be able to shake that notion that the McCanns were somehow involved. The more they try and shout 'innocent', the less convincing it looks IMO.

by jeanmonroe 22.09.14 12:47

One 'wonders' whether Summers & Swan will be 'exposing' the corrupt UK police 'officers' involved in child abuse, rape and paedophilia, employed throughout police forces IN the United Kingdom, in their next Pull-the-other-one book giving the 'possible, most definitive, account EVER' of UK serving/dismissed/disciplined police officers 'involvement' in child abuse, rape and paedophilia in ALL of the United Kingdom police forces.

They could 'start' their 'definitive, investigational, research' by having a 'cosy chat' with serving police officers at the Metropolitan Police, couldn't they?

And then,........... i 'woke' up!

by Brian Griffin 22.09.14 15:14

If, as some suspect, the book was supposed to act as some sort of counter-mechanism to the Amaral trial verdict, and the release of the book in book format has missed the mark for some reason, it could be that the serialisation will start when the trial date comes up. We shall see. It will be hilarious if that's the case and the Portuguese pull another switcheroo so the serialisation is also launched at the wrong time, even though I would really like to see the trial ended. Like I said elsewhere , only half-jokingly, I'm surprised they didn't have the referendum date postponed to swamp the media, just in case Goncalo wins! In my opinion.

by Guest 22.09.14 16:12

Brian Griffin wrote:If, as some suspect, the book was supposed to act as some sort of counter-mechanism to the Amaral trial verdict, and the release of the book in book format has missed the mark for some reason, it could be that the serialisation will start when the trial date comes up. We shall see. It will be hilarious if that's the case and the Portuguese pull another switcheroo so the serialisation is also launched at the wrong time, even though I would really like to see the trial ended. Like I said elsewhere , only half-jokingly, I'm surprised they didn't have the referendum date postponed to swamp the media, just in case Goncalo wins! In my opinion.

I'm happy to stand corrected here,but when a judge is appointed whether its the same one or another,they will give dates for the two sets of lawyers to be able to confirm to which they can attend.so there will be plenty of advance notice.