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Post by NickE on 21.10.14 21:27

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INTERNET trolls who subject victims to vile abuse online are to be jailed for up to two years under a Government crackdown.
The move comes on the back of disgusting rape threats made against Chloe Madeley because her mum Judy Finnigan had made controversial remarks about convicted rapist footballer Ched Evans.
Chloe has welcomed this decision by Justice Secretary Chris Grayling and said some of the sickening comments made against her amounted to "online terrorism".

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Post by Dont Make Me Laff on 21.10.14 21:52

Chloe or Brenda Law?

If such a law is ever passed it should be called BRENDA' s Or LEYLAND  LAW -
since Brenda Leyland was the first to be A] threatened but media and
B]Died by the Media


I feel utterly sickened that The Madly family/AKA PRO McCanns are cashing in on Brenda Leyland's death and Topping Brendas death by using their child...

Just shows how low jurnos will stoop
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Post by Dont Make Me Laff on 21.10.14 22:05

BTW Ks is not my fav speaker cos she she can at times be full of shit. But in this instance ref Trolls I blv she is right

if you cant stand the heat -then get out of the kitchen/fire

in this case

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KATE & GERRY stop posing  for photographers on rocks and on seats and for the MSM GET OFF YOUR ARSES and do what you say you are doing (which you No evidence of)

GO LOOK

FOR MADELEINE

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Post by thetruthbeknown on 21.10.14 22:16

There is no comparison between someone singling out a person bacause of a tv programme/article and issuing rape threats, to someone who has spent time researching a well known and publicised case, and speaking their opinion on the case and entering debate on said case. The two examples here are miles apart...unfortunately many of those who only listen to what is fed by the media will be uttering Brendas name in the same breath as those that issue those kind of threats, because of the medias tireless attempts to clump all into one catergory of 'trolls' (not that we didnt see that coming)... nah
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Post by Dont Make Me Laff on 21.10.14 22:29

@thetruthbeknown wrote:There is no comparison between someone singling out a person bacause of a tv programme/article and issuing rape threats, to someone who has spent time researching a well known and publicised case, and speaking their opinion on the case and entering debate on said case. The two examples here are miles apart...unfortunately many of those who only listen to what is fed by the media will be uttering Brendas name in the same breath as those that issue those kind of threats, because of the medias tireless attempts to clump all into one catergory of 'trolls' (not that we didnt see that coming)... nah
then hush my mouth?
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Post by Google.Gaspar.Statements on 21.10.14 22:30

Radio Presenter: "We are NOT talking about the McCanns" 

Quite insistent about that wasn't he?
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Post by Dont Make Me Laff on 21.10.14 22:49

@Google.Gaspar.Statements wrote:Radio Presenter: "We are NOT talking about the McCanns" 

Quite insistent about that wasn't he?
More than insistent - He was screaming
as o p stated
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Post by Dont Make Me Laff on 21.10.14 22:51

sorry to bail but gotta be at the nic in 5 hours need some kip
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Post by Snifferdog on 22.10.14 9:51

It seems all the stops have now been pulled out by those involved in the Madeleine cover up to try avoid the looming tidal wave. Get the surf boards ready Imo.

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Post by Zelina on 27.10.14 17:54

I found Stephen's choice of words very interesting. This is a man who doesn't shy away from the most controversial subjects. He has made several programs about issues with the current abortion laws in Northern Ireland which generated some very heated debates. And yet he will absolutely not go anywhere near the subject of the McCanns anymore.




I think his last program that mentioned the case was his Clarence Mitchell interview? That was a good interview and even back then, Mitchell stated he wanted defamation laws to be tightened up. Stephen said you can't control the internet ... and look what happened.




I didn't know Brenda but her death had a profound effect on me. I don't know how the people who hounded her can sleep at night.

I'm so thankful I live in a country where we still have free speech. There is no real free speech in the UK and it's only going to get worse.

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Post by Joss on 29.10.14 5:44

@Zelina wrote:I found Stephen's choice of words very interesting. This is a man who doesn't shy away from the most controversial subjects. He has made several programs about issues with the current abortion laws in Northern Ireland which generated some very heated debates. And yet he will absolutely not go anywhere near the subject of the McCanns anymore.




I think his last program that mentioned the case was his Clarence Mitchell interview? That was a good interview and even back then, Mitchell stated he wanted defamation laws to be tightened up. Stephen said you can't control the internet ... and look what happened.




I didn't know Brenda but her death had a profound effect on me. I don't know how the people who hounded her can sleep at night.

I'm so thankful I live in a country where we still have free speech. There is no real free speech in the UK and it's only going to get worse.
Which makes me wonder if this whole case wasn't some type of catalyst for that??? Look at all the players involved in it.
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Post by plebgate on 30.12.14 21:35

Free speech in Britain, yes it is getting worse imo - link:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2891454/Katie-Hopkins-reported-police-committing-hate-crime-Angry-plus-size-campaigner-calls-cops-TV-s

Reported to the police despite senior doctors commenting on the issue.
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Post by Sam S on 31.12.14 10:36

I refuse to be intimidated by these threats of imprisonment for expressing my opinion on public matters. Telling the truth as I see it is worth going to prison for. I refuse to be silenced when I see a blatant injustice. These people only have the power over you that YOU allow them to have. Stand tall, fear no foe and tell our despotic "leaders", Bring it on!. We all know they will not stop at jailing people who are threatening sickening acts of violence, anybody that doesn't agree with our glorious overlords will be whisked away in the middle of the night and placed in a gulag.   mad
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Post by jeanmonroe on 31.12.14 12:31

@Sam S wrote:I refuse to be intimidated by these threats of imprisonment for expressing my opinion on public matters. Telling the truth as I see it is worth going to prison for. I refuse to be silenced when I see a blatant injustice. These people only have the power over you that YOU allow them to have. Stand tall, fear no foe and tell our despotic "leaders", Bring it on!. We all know they will not stop at jailing people who are threatening sickening acts of violence, anybody that doesn't agree with our glorious overlords will be whisked away in the middle of the night and placed in a gulag.   mad

Still, thats gotta be BETTER than 'being placed' in a goulash! laughat
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Post by aiyoyo on 01.01.15 1:03

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2892207/Katie-Hopkins-continues-hate-campaign-saying-overweight-need-kick-a.html

Katie Hopkins is determined to start the New Year by dominating front page news......with her silly remarks.  She is being very immature now thinking it's cool to be loud and crude.

Twitter is not the platform for uncensored private opinions.

She is unlikely to be charged for a criminal offence, and will probably end up with a slap on the wrist - that's all.
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Post by plebgate on 08.02.15 17:00

She came second in the Big Brother House apparently, so she hasn't done too badly (money) for being a loud mouth it seems.

Wont surprise me one bit if she gets even more "outrageous" now that she knows she is liked.  big grin
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Post by jeanmonroe on 11.02.15 14:57

TWO police 'forces' were given 'access' to 'THE 'TROLL' DOSSIER' given to OG on the 9th September 2014, BY 'the McCann family' (BHH)

FIVE (5) MONTHS ago!

Leicestershire Police and Met Police (OG)

Could somebody enlighten me as to how MANY 'named' 'trolls', in the 'dossier' have ACTUALLY been prosecuted and charged with ANY 'offence' arising from the two police forces investigation into the 'dossier'?

Gotta be at least ONE 'troll', surely?

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Post by Smokeandmirrors on 11.02.15 16:43

I'm actually quite a fan of Katie Hopkins inasmuch as she is prepared to take flak for what she says. She is a champion for personal responsibility and that is often lacking in todays world.

The whole issue of freedom of speech is a very murky area however. The recent Charlie Hebdo incident, when a deliberate satirical/offensive stance was taken led to an atrocious killing spree. The public were shocked and something approaching 50 heads of state gathered in support along with approx. 7 million people on the streets.

Nick Clegg on LBC the following week said "no-one has the right NOT to be offended" and he was clearly championing the expression of views that may cause offence. So there you have it, World Leaders marching as one to defend OUR inalienable right to freedom of speech in a world that pretends it is democratic. 

"HURRAH" said we "About bloody time" and we all felt a little better that freedom of speech was being so fiercely defended.

And then I woke up and realised it was all a dream. In a moment of clarity, it suddenly struck me what an enormous, stinky lie we were being told. I realised that if I was a cartoonist and printed off a ream or two of cartoon depicting Mohammed snogging the face off of someone who'd been shot by a terrorist, and wandered around Tower Hamlets or Bradford, I'd be in cuffs and safely ensconced in the local nick before I could shout Je Suis Charlie. I would then most likely be branded as stirring racial hatred and spend a stretch in Her Majesty's prison system.

So just HOW are they going to decide what constitutes "trolling" and "vile abuse" against our supposed rights to offend each other as we see fit? Will it have to be proven that a direct threat of harm or death is made? Or will merely causing some imagined offence be grounds for legal action? Unless the specific boundaries are enshrined in statute, it'll fall on a whim of whomever receives the complaint, surely?

Some of those who proclaim to be trolled or abused online are themselves often guilty of very nasty behaviour. And if one wishes to garner daily attention on the WWW, do they expect to do so with impunity, regardless of how annoying or inflammatory people find their outpourings? Young ladies who post endless selfies of themselves in nothing more than their undies crave attention and reaction, but only on their own terms so it seems. And those who blog and criticise others regularly, casting aspertions around like cheap confetti, often explode into a histrionic mess when they get a dose of their own medicine in return.

So when it comes to the crunch, just WHO is going to decide what we can say and to whom and on what terms?

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Post by G-Unit on 11.02.15 17:47

There is already censorship on the internet. In forums anyway.
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Post by aiyoyo on 11.02.15 19:44

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a35-TJwfdWA

George Galloway on Katie Hopkins.
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Post by mad world on 11.02.15 22:13

George galloway on katie hopkins
I just spat out my coffee at that mental image:-O
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Post by plebgate on 01.04.15 8:41

Katie has been reported to the police again by an MP.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3020259/Katie-Hopkins-says-MP-Simon-Danczuk-reported-police-Pakistani-child-grooming-tweets-cover

Nothing will come of it (again) imo.    I hope this MP is voted out and we never hear of him and his selfie loving wife again in public life.  How do these people get to become MPs?
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Ms Hopkins sent the tweets after Mr Danczuk attended the raising of a Pakistani flag over the town hall for half an hour on March 23 to mark Pakistan's National Day.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3020259/Katie-Hopkins-says-MP-Simon-Danczuk-reported-police-Pakistani-child-grooming-tweets-cover-caught-watching-porn.html#ixzz3W2o8Peud 
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This is ridiculous.

We are a country slowly going insane.

Someone said something many years ago about people eventually having the "whip hand".

But the Bishop of Durham says he's a pedo.
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Post by plebgate on 01.04.15 10:51

Britain getting madder by the day.  I really believe we are being  governed  by many self obsessed fools.

The police must be getting fed up with people reporting Hopkins for saying things they dont want to hear.   Tough.
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