Re: Mikaeel Kular

by Guest 16.01.14 18:54

Now the police are asking anyone who has seen him in the last 24 hours to come forward sad

by Cristobell 16.01.14 18:55

dantezebu wrote:Now the police are asking anyone who has seen him in the last 24 hours to come forward

The latest reports don't look good - several forensic people have just gone in, though I don't know which flat they went into.

by Upsy Daisy 16.01.14 19:50

Stv news now saying he usually sleeps in same room as his twin sister but was sleeping on his own as he had been unwell.

Wonder why mum didn't check on him if he had been ill, especially being on his own?

by loopzdaloop 16.01.14 20:23

I read the police said 'no evidence of criminality' which leads me to suspect the parents.
They also said he could be recognised by a scar on his nose and a sore on his mouth, which to me, in light of this situation screams possible evidence of abuse. It is also strange that this was the only night he was allowed to stay in his room without the sister.

They've done a mccann I'm sure of it.

by Guest 16.01.14 20:28

loopzdaloop wrote:I read the police said 'no evidence of criminality' which leads me to suspect the parents.
They also said he could be recognised by a scar on his nose and a sore on his mouth, which to me, in light of this situation screams possible evidence of abuse. It is also strange that this was the only night he was allowed to stay in his room without the sister.

They've done a mccann I'm sure of it.

loopzdaloop how can you possibly say such a thing, you have no idea how he came by the scar, he could have had an accident. I really think we should wait and see what develops before comments of this nature.

by Upsy Daisy 16.01.14 20:36

Quite a few speeding police cars with sirens heading towards area. Maybe unrelated, maybe not. We are tucked up, just imagine a toddler being out in the cold somewhere.

by marconi 16.01.14 21:01

ia there a channel or a river near his home?

by Upsy Daisy 16.01.14 21:21

The sea marconi, steep areas near the sea. Sad

by Issy 16.01.14 21:49

dantezebu wrote:Now the police are asking anyone who has seen him in the last 24 hours to come forward

The police really need to establish when he was last seen by anyone other than his own family, it's crucial that they know the sequence of events they've been told is true. Police can't afford to take anything on trust.
Having said that, I hope this is just a case of woke and wandered, though I can't understand how he hasn't been spotted unless he's hiding somewhere or has got locked in somewhere by mistake.

by **Tony Bennett** 16.01.14 22:01

Upsy Daisy wrote:BBC Scotland news, they seem to be reiterating that his mother says he is very capable of dressing himself and getting out of the door.

Reply: THREE YEARS OLD? AT NIGHT-TIME?

Stv news now saying he usually sleeps in same room as his twin sister but was sleeping on his own as he had been unwell.

Two really very obvious lies.

by Upsy Daisy 16.01.14 22:03

that's just it -you would think it bizarre to see a toddler on its own wandering, so obvious thing would be to a.ask where he lives, then take home or b.just call police. Perhaps was picked up by ' wrong' hands, or sadly, family have taken him from the mother for reasons unknown to us right now.

by Ho Lee Fuq 16.01.14 22:04

Has Missing People's Ambassador, Kate McCann made a speech yet?

by Upsy Daisy 16.01.14 22:10

Evening TB. Was watching superintendant's face/eyes for anything to suggest they had an inkling. What do you think happened based on statements released so far?

by Upsy Daisy 16.01.14 22:20

Police super said they would use dogs, forensics will be able to pick prints off exit areas and dogs sniff scent.

by loopzdaloop 16.01.14 23:37

candyfloss wrote:
loopzdaloop wrote:I read the police said 'no evidence of criminality' which leads me to suspect the parents.
They also said he could be recognised by a scar on his nose and a sore on his mouth, which to me, in light of this situation screams possible evidence of abuse. It is also strange that this was the only night he was allowed to stay in his room without the sister.

They've done a mccann I'm sure of it.

loopzdaloop how can you possibly say such a thing, you have no idea how he came by the scar, he could have had an accident. I really think we should wait and see what develops before comments of this nature.

When a child goes 'missing' or comes to harm, it is predominantly someone known to the child.
Statistically it is something to do with the parents.

The child is so young that you may also like to be suspicious about the 'wandering off' whilst being aware of things like appropriate clothing & footwear
When you hear that this happened on 'the only night he had the room to himself', that appears very convenient as you wonder why this happened the only time the routine had changed.

With all this forming part of the context and the way they identify this child as "having a faded scar on the bridge of his nose and a sore on the left hand side of his mouth" You have to start to suspect child maltreatment.
(a link to the NICE guidelines as to "When to suspect child maltreatment"
http://www.nice.org.uk/nicemedia/pdf/CG89FullGuideline.pdf )

(I work in an area where you have to be attuned to this sort of thing)

I actually think its wrong to be soft in situations like this.
They should take the parents in, quiz them and then see if they can be ruled out.
The sooner the better. Otherwise you have a Mccann type situation that drags on forever.

I have to say I'm not particularly impressed with the police taking marketing ideas from the Mccann's handbook.

Mikaeel Kular - Page 4 Article-2540440-1AB7451900000578-73_634x531

Mikaeel Kular - Page 4 Article-2540440-1AB7451900000578-73_634x531

by littlepixie 17.01.14 0:35

My Grandson is the same age so my heart is breaking over this poor boy. It says they are concentrating on a caravan park near to where the boy lives. They have used "specialist" dogs. It fills me with dread.

by suzyjohnson 17.01.14 0:44

Do you think his mother could have left the children alone for the afternoon / evening and he disappeared earlier in the day? I would like to know how old the other children are, did one of them take him out and then lose him?

It does sound very suspicious that he slept on his own just on the night he vanished. It would be quite difficult to hide anything going on from four other children in the same house.

Praying we have good news about this little boy tomorrow, but it's starting to look less and less likely

by marconi 17.01.14 1:00

Upsy Daisy wrote:The sea marconi, steep areas near the sea.

I don't think a 3 years old would walk towards a see, also because of the scary noise of waves. I really hope that his father took him with himself. The father may have a key to the child's home. Or maybe his grandparents.
But I fear the worst. I watched BBC1 10 o'clock news and I saw several forensic experts in white, dogs and shocked neighbours. Many people helping the search.

by Jemmied_Shatter 17.01.14 1:25

The Police have already taken maximum action. I really hope that this little boy has not come to any harm. When I think back over the last 20-30 years that tiny children have gone missing sadly a happy ending is not the result. The police need to get on to that family straight away which I believe they have done. I await the arrival of the local tribal community leader to assume power over the direction of the police investigation. A cynic indeed I may be.
sad

by Otium 17.01.14 2:30

Hi all. I read here daily and just want to come out of lurking briefly to comment on this sad story.

*Deleted. (Didn't realise there were two fathers for the children but will leave the rest of my post)*

What has been reported in various media outlets so far doesn't make sense to me and I am therefore reminded of good ole Judge Judy....If it doesn't make sense then it is not the truth.

I hope Mikaeel has come to no harm and is found safe and well.

by suep 17.01.14 5:52

Both Sjy News and the Live Edinburgh website are describing Mikaeel as being 2 feet tall, although the BBC has him at 3 feet.

If he is only 2 feet this is extremely small for a 3 year old.

Still no sign of him being found yet. His mother is described as 'frantic'. I hope he's found soon, bless him.

by aiyoyo 17.01.14 7:01

http://news.sky.com/story/1196095/live-updates-search-for-missing-mikaeel-kular

Live updates

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2540440/BREAKING-NEWS-Police-hunt-three-year-old-boy-went-missing-home-overnight.html

by **PeterMac** 17.01.14 8:37

Police still INSISTING there is no evidence of "abduction".

QUITE !

by jozi 17.01.14 8:38

This is so sad and I hope they find him soon but having listened to this saga that is unfolding I have my doubts as to a happy ending here.A three year old child will not wonder outside in the cold and dark,no matter how good he is at getting dressed and tying shoes and opening doors,he will not take a coat either.
So unless a relation has this child I feel this case can only get worse !!!

I'm sorry to say when I first heard about this last night I said " They have done a McCann here " Which is sad but that is how I feel,if it don't add up then its a lie !

by bobbin 17.01.14 8:43

Is the flat a very big flat. How many bedrooms. There are 5 children and either Mother alone or plus one father.
Just wondering how one of so many children could have a room to himself because he wasn't feeling well.

ETA, if a child were not well enough and needed to sleep alone, why didn't mum check him at intervals.