Re: The Peoples Voice.

by Who?What?Where? 28.11.13 1:40

I do not have an authority to unleash a judgement day, upon anyone.

What I cannot understand, is how so many people have told me, that they have an authority over me, and how miserable, those people, have made my life.

I am sure, that I am not alone, in that line of thinking.

by Who?What?Where? 28.11.13 2:03

"Quid Pro Quo", "Karma", "Newton's third law of motion", "You reap what you sow".

All, truth's.

The exploiters, are trying to avoid the inevitable. Where is their sense of humility, about their real place, not only on this planet, but in The Universe?

Nowhere near good enough, IMHO.

by **tigger** 28.11.13 7:26

Who?What?Where? wrote:I do not have an authority to unleash a judgement day, upon anyone.

What I cannot understand, is how so many people have told me, that they have an authority over me, and how miserable, those people, have made my life.

I am sure, that I am not alone, in that line of thinking.

Years ago I watched a talk by Icke, it's probably still around.
What struck me is that he quoted Goering - who stated that you could only get a man to fight for his country if he was made to be afraid for his own life and possessions. Otherwise, what was in it for a farmer, to go to war and then at the end come back to the farm
He had to be made to believe he would lose it, then he would fight. Fear is the key.

He also quoted Wilde, that most opinions are second hand. Seems to cover about 90% of the population imo.

I did not agree with all he said, but a lot made sense. As for second-hand opinions, CmoMM's members don't go in for that sort of thing, which is why we have such refreshing discussions.

Re quotes, there are no statesmen anymore, no great leaders since the '50's and '60's.
Ben Gurion iirc had a secret neeting with Selwyn Gummer? re the Suez crisis, SG reported back to Eden, the meeting had been pointless, ' BG had quoted Plato - and not been understood.

All we've got now are are store managers and executive directors who can be sure of lucrative appointments after their term of office ends. Blair for one didn't get to be a multi-millionaire in just a couple of years because
people all over the world love to hear him talk and are willing to pay hundreds of pounds for the privilige.
Imo the income generated from the lecture tours is a standard 'explanation' for such sudden financial success.

The whole McCann affair started with Blair imo. If I can find it again, a political columnist discovered that Brown managed to oust Blair by threatening to expose 'sleaze' .
Brown inherited the McCanns - at least it's a possibility. He was treated by TM as little more than a lackey - it would explain why he never met them, didn't even use the connection to win votes.
Brown said it was a matter of national security. Blair scattered D-notices around like confetti - democracy is and always was - open to interpretation.

by dragonfly 30.11.13 21:13

Daisy wrote:
jd wrote:Each to their own if they look a like, plus how many people have identical marks on their necks?...imo they are one of the same on the photos but also look at the facts of them both...absolute remarkable coincidences
Sorry JD, I've heard this tale going around for years but it's a conspiracy too far for me. Bill Hicks was, and still is a legend to me. I've watched every bit of footage there is out there of him. I've got the DVD's the books etc. Alex Jones on the other hand is a buffoon, controlled opposition a disinformation agent, milking a gullible public for all they're worth. I've watched/listened to enough of his stuff to feel absolutely certain of this.

But like you say, each to their own. We can agree to disagree on this one.

I don't expect it will change your mind but check out this short video when you have the time.

"Is Alex Jones Bill Hicks? 9 out of 10 Disinfo Shills Think So"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXsdCaxEj3Y

Spot on daisy!

Im all up for having an open mind, but if you want to discredit the great mind of Bill Hicks you could not tarnish his name even more by calling him Alex jones , Bill Hicks ripped religion. Alex Jones for some who 'exposes conspiracies' falls for the biggest one ever religion!
if any one seriously thinks this is Bill Hicks in this video well ..................
watch for your selves ........................................

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOVJK544ZOU

by SilvaRizla 13.08.14 10:29

Hello,

For those interested TPV has now gone bust after going through somewhere in the region of £500,000 and landing TPV in debt. It seems it was sabotaged by its director Sean Adl-Tabatabai who told David Icke to stop interfering with his business.

There is a timeline of events that happened at TPV posted here which includes responses by David Icke as well as people who worked there: http://silvarizla.wordpress.com/tpv-timeline

A brief synopsis is that stole the donated bitcoin and ran TPV into the ground whilst keeping the contributors purposefully in the dark and continued to take their money.

There seems to be a clear case that the donations were also obtained by deception in my opinion.

Sean Adl-Tabatabai has now also created TPV Inc, registered in the USA, so it looks like he's planning to do the same thing again over there.

by j.rob 13.08.14 12:03

I don't see why it is so far-fetched for someone or people to claim that Madeleine was 'stolen to order'. If, as many believe - including her parents and their friends - the disappearance of Madeleine has something to do with paedophilia, then this case could be connected with serious organized crime. As opposed to a lone nutter who seized a chance, for instance.

Why did the parents, from the very outset, claim that they thought Madeleine had been stolen by a paedophile ring? Why does Kate bring up this subject early on in her book? And continues with this theme throughout the book, giving statistics on this type of crime?

Detective Amaral requested assistance from CEOP from the early days. CEOP were heavily involved. Dr Gasper made a statement to police that she thought David Payne might be interested in child pornography online.

So, surely, the signs are very much that this case is to do with child exploitation. The very high levels of protection that appear to have been offered to the McCanns and their friends are suggestive that the disappearance of Madeleine is far more complex than the actions of a lone abductor.

The whole McCann affair started with Blair imo. If I can find it again, a political columnist discovered that Brown managed to oust Blair by threatening to expose 'sleaze' .
Brown inherited the McCanns - at least it's a possibility. He was treated by TM as little more than a lackey - it would explain why he never met them, didn't even use the connection to win votes.
Brown said it was a matter of national security. Blair scattered D-notices around like confetti - democracy is and always was - open to interpretation.

That's probably getting pretty close to it, imo. How much sleaze there must be in our all venerable institutions.

Saville showed up the level of sleaze in the BBC and to some extent the NHS. Clifford showed up the level of sleaze in the media. I would suggest that the McCanns are showing up the level of sleaze in the NHS. They and their friends are certainly a PR disaster for that particular UK state institution.

And bear in mind that the detective who cracked the Casa Pia orphanage sex abuse scandal in Portugal was on the McCann case for a time, until the case was shelved, I do believe. Was Casa Pia the Portuguese equivalent of those children's homes scandals that we have had here, including Elm Bank guest house?

Oh dear, oh dear.

All opinions only, as always.

The Peoples Voice.