OPERATION GRANGE - Independent 4/10/13 SY Review Team says there's now *41* persons of interest, and they're trying with the help of Interpol to track mobile 'phones linked to 31 countries worldwide... *PLUS* A new Crimewatch TV appeal in FOUR countries

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:Marconi, the programme is normally on once a month in the U K.

The next one on 14th October is not exclusively about the McCann case. 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03dz7yj

nobodythereeither wrote:

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:Marconi, the programme is normally on once a month in the U K.

The next one on 14th October is not exclusively about the McCann case. 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03dz7yj

That link leads to a page which clearly says "abducted".

Doesn't fill me with hope.

"In a world exclusive, Scotland Yard detectives reveal their latest findings in the search for Madeleine McCann. The then three-year-old was abducted from her family's holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, Portugal in May 2007.


Crimewatch, for the first time, reconstructs what the new British investigation tells us about that night, and Kirsty Young speaks to Kate and Gerry McCann about their renewed hopes of finding their daughter.

With unprecedented access to the Metropolitan Police investigation, Crimewatch hears from the lead officers who believe the crucial new leads could help finally uncover the truth of who took Madeleine.

Also featuring crimes caught on camera in Martin Bayfield's CCTV round-up and a new collection of wanted faces.
Plus, all the latest news on arrests and convictions on previous cases resulting from your calls."

Edited to add: There's no way I can bring myself to watch this.

[snipped]


“Everything is designed to bring us to that core moment when she disappeared. We hope to speak to everyone who was in Praia da Luz at the time.

“The majority will be entirely uninvolved in what happened but some will be witnesses and others may be suspects. This is not just a general trawl. This is a targeted attack on the mobile phone database. It has not happened before.”

MADELEINE MCCANN RECONSTRUCTION 14 Oct.
If the man seen by Jane Tanner was the “abductor’ and was carrying Madeleine, as the McCanns insist, he had available to him the time from Gerry McCann’s leaving the apartment to the sighting by Jane Tanner.  And no more.

In this time the intruder has to

• Enter the apartment
• Sedate all three children - in the dark
• Select Madeleine as the victim - in the dark
• Open the shutters and window   - if he used the front door to enter
• Pick Madeleine out of her bed   - in the dark
• Turn her round so that her head is now to his left, rather than to his right, which is the way he would have approached her in the bed.      
• Exit the apartment, either through the opened window and shutters, or through the front door, which he must then close silently behind him.
• Walk to the left along the path in front of the apartment, walk straight ahead across the car park, and then walk to the right along the road, and cross the street in front of Jane Tanner, the father of the very child he had just abducted, and another man who has his own child in a buggy.  

Taking into account the travelling time, he has around ONE MINUTE AND TWENTY SECONDS in which to achieve the first seven items on the list.

I trust that your "reconstruction" will be accurate in relation to the above facts.
Yours sincerely
Peter Mac
Retired Police Superintendent

PeterMac wrote:Thank Jeanm
Have just sent this

MADELEINE MCCANN RECONSTRUCTION 14 Oct.
If the man seen by Jane Tanner was the “abductor’ and was carrying Madeleine, as the McCanns insist, he had available to him the time from Gerry McCann’s leaving the apartment to the sighting by Jane Tanner.  And no more.

In this time the intruder has to

• Enter the apartment
• Sedate all three children - in the dark
• Select Madeleine as the victim - in the dark
• Open the shutters and window   - if he used the front door to enter
• Pick Madeleine out of her bed   - in the dark
• Turn her round so that her head is now to his left, rather than to his right, which is the way he would have approached her in the bed.      
• Exit the apartment, either through the opened window and shutters, or through the front door, which he must then close silently behind him.
• Walk to the left along the path in front of the apartment, walk straight ahead across the car park, and then walk to the right along the road, and cross the street in front of Jane Tanner, the father of the very child he had just abducted, and another man who has his own child in a buggy.  

Taking into account the travelling time, he has around ONE MINUTE AND TWENTY SECONDS in which to achieve the first seven items on the list.

I trust that your "reconstruction" will be accurate in relation to the above facts.
Yours sincerely
Peter Mac
Retired Police Superintendent

PeterMac wrote:It is going to be a very short programme.

They have EXACTLY ONE MINUTE AND 20 SECOND to do the reconstruction.
(That is the McCanns' own timings - not ours - Kevin)

If their version takes any longer than that - it is false - and either Gerry's statement or Tanner's statements will be shown to contain lies.
And since it is the BBC it has a duty to report honestly and impartially.


edited to add
jeanmonore-  The BBC has a DUTY to report properly, honestly and impartially.  It is part of their Charter, and if they fail, can be brought to book by OFCOM.

melisande wrote:Hi, this is my first post.  I have been following this forum for a very long time and I think it is fantastic what you are doing to get to the truth of what really happened to Madeleine.  The transcripts of this libel trial is the Mccanns and their supporters'  biggest and major problem imo.  All this nonsense in yesterday's and today's news is typical of their MO.  Look over here, not there!  They don't want the British public to know the conclusion of the investigation which the judge has mentioned now on a number of occasions nor do they want anything else getting out there , which it will when Goncalo Amaral and his witnesses get their turn on the stand.  The coming weeks are going to be very interesting imo.  Well done to the lady who has been in court and is obviously putting a lot of hard work into getting the translations done and the information out there.

Cristobell wrote:Well said Petermac, I hope you have sent it off.

I think the Crimwatch program may however give us a definitive idea of where the SY investigation is going.  If Gerry crosses the road to speak to Jez, he's still in charge.

gbwales wrote:Just sent in complaint....


In your information for Crimewatch (14th Oct) you describe Madeleine McCann as having been "abducted". This cannot be considered as correct unless you have information the police should know about.


Please be aware that when you do the promised "reconstruction" that you will need to make a meaningful and reality-based reconstruction which is based on ALL the contradicting statements and evidence of the McCanns and their group of friends.
If you do not do this - if you neglect details to make something fit/work, if you use only SOME statements and avoid others - then you will be wasting taxpayers money as far as the new police investigations are concerned, and you will also be in breach of your charter regarding proper, honest and impartial reporting. You will by definition also be obstructing the police investigation by way of deliberately causing confusion and not representing the full account of the evening as given in official statements by the witnesses.


I and many others have long been concerned by press & TV reporting of the McCann case and will be watching very closely as a result.

PeterMac wrote:edited to add
jeanmonore-  The BBC has a DUTY to report properly, honestly and impartially.  It is part of their Charter, and if they fail, can be brought to book by OFCOM.

jozi wrote:

gbwales wrote:Just sent in complaint....


In your information for Crimewatch (14th Oct) you describe Madeleine McCann as having been "abducted". This cannot be considered as correct unless you have information the police should know about.


Please be aware that when you do the promised "reconstruction" that you will need to make a meaningful and reality-based reconstruction which is based on ALL the contradicting statements and evidence of the McCanns and their group of friends.
If you do not do this - if you neglect details to make something fit/work, if you use only SOME statements and avoid others - then you will be wasting taxpayers money as far as the new police investigations are concerned, and you will also be in breach of your charter regarding proper, honest and impartial reporting. You will by definition also be obstructing the police investigation by way of deliberately causing confusion and not representing the full account of the evening as given in official statements by the witnesses.

https://ssl.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006ppmq/contact

I and many others have long been concerned by press & TV reporting of the McCann case and will be watching very closely as a result.

Well said gbwales, can we dare hope you will get a reply ?

PeterMac wrote:It is going to be a very short programme.

They have EXACTLY ONE MINUTE AND 20 SECOND to do the reconstruction.
(That is the McCanns' own timings - not ours - Kevin)

If their version takes any longer than that - it is false - and either Gerry's statement or Tanner's statements will be shown to contain lies.
And since it is the BBC it has a duty to report honestly and impartially.


edited to add
jeanmonore-  The BBC has a DUTY to report properly, honestly and impartially.  It is part of their Charter, and if they fail, can be brought to book by OFCOM.

PeterMac wrote:edited to add
jeanmonore-  The BBC has a DUTY to report properly, honestly and impartially.  It is part of their Charter, and if they fail, can be brought to book by OFCOM.