OPERATION GRANGE - Independent 4/10/13 SY Review Team says there's now *41* persons of interest, and they're trying with the help of Interpol to track mobile 'phones linked to 31 countries worldwide... *PLUS* A new Crimewatch TV appeal in FOUR countries

aiyoyo wrote:

The reconstruction is, according to the Crimewatch team, based on “the Met’s latest, most detailed understanding of what took place around the time of Madeleine’s disappearance.

This stood out for me as significant that the recon is on Met's script and NOT the Mccanns & friends script as deposited in their statements.
Maybe their evolving statements make it impossible to  select  which one to use.
I cant wait for the 14th.

marconi wrote:any of you knows at what time Crimewatch will be, London time?  I have BBC1.

ultimaThule wrote:

aiyoyo wrote:

The reconstruction is, according to the Crimewatch team, based on “the Met’s latest, most detailed understanding of what took place around the time of Madeleine’s disappearance.

This stood out for me as significant that the recon is on Met's script and NOT the Mccanns & friends script as deposited in their statements.
Maybe their evolving statements make it impossible to  select  which one to use.
I cant wait for the 14th.

This stands out for me as being a reconstruction based on the McCanns' most recent obsfucations version of what took place on the night in question. 

That is not what the article states. The article was explicit about the basis of the recon when the police statement was put in quotation marks.

As another poster has pointed out, the forthcoming Crimewatch mock-u-mentary is likely to resemble a parody of a Benny Hill sketch wherein the McCanns & their chums are seen speeding in and out of the Tapas Bar, travelling up and down the roads leading to the front and rear entrances of 5A, going in and out of each other's apartment/briefly standing by unjemmied shutters and doors and, with the exception of Jane Tanner, narrowly missing 'bundleman'. 

I wouldn't be at all surprised if the entire cast dances the conga as a finale, but I guess that would require a different musical score to accompany what is shaping up to be nothing more than another Whitehall farce.

aiyoyo wrote:

ultimaThule wrote:

aiyoyo wrote:

The reconstruction is, according to the Crimewatch team, based on “This stood out for me as significant that the recon is on Met's script and NOT the Mccanns & friends script as deposited in their statements.
Maybe their evolving statements make it impossible to  select  which one to use.
I cant wait for the 14th.the Met’s latest, most detailed understanding of what took place around the time of Madeleine’s disappearance.

This stands out for me as being a reconstruction based on the McCanns' most recent obsfucations version of what took place on the night in question. 

 That is not what the article states.  The article was explicit about the basis of the recon when the police statement was put in quotation marks.

As another poster has pointed out, the forthcoming Crimewatch mock-u-mentary is likely to resemble a parody of a Benny Hill sketch wherein the McCanns & their chums are seen speeding in and out of the Tapas Bar, travelling up and down the roads leading to the front and rear entrances of 5A, going in and out of each other's apartment/briefly standing by unjemmied shutters and doors and, with the exception of Jane Tanner, narrowly missing 'bundleman'. 

I wouldn't be at all surprised if the entire cast dances the conga as a finale, but I guess that would require a different musical score to accompany what is shaping up to be nothing more than another Whitehall farce.

McCanns too upset for Madeleine telly abduction re-run
KATE and Gerry McCann were too upset to appear in a TV reconstruction of the night their daughter was snatched.


By Tracey Kandohla/Published 6th October 2013

The McCanns could not face a lookalike of Madeleine on a set [PA]
Harrowing scenes, including when the distraught mum found Madeleine was missing, will be played out by actors.

The couple turned down a request from Scotland Yard to be involved in the Crimewatch reconstruction as “it would be far too upsetting for them,” a family source revealed yesterday.

A three-year-old with a “striking” similarity to Madeleine will double for her in the programme a week tomorrow.

Kate and Gerry have also banned the re-enactment taking place in Portugal, where she vanished, through fear of angering the country’s police.

The couple, who have eight-year-old twins Sean and Amelie, asked for filming to take place in Spain.

A close source said: “More than anything in the world Kate and Gerry want to find out what happened to Madeleine.

“But they did not want to take part in the reconstruction and they were against it being filmed in Portugal.

“Even after six years it would have been emotionally and mentally draining for Kate and Gerry to face a lookalike of their daughter on set. Can you imagine it? It would be traumatic.”

But the McCanns will make a “significant” new TV appeal in light of “fresh, substantive” material unearthed as part of the Met Police’s review.

Heart consultant Gerry and former GP Kate, both 45, will appear live in the studio during the show. In a statement yesterday they said: “We are really hopeful that the forthcoming appeal will bring further new evidence which will take us a step closer to finding Madeleine and to bringing those responsible for her abduction to justice.

“They did not want to take part in the reconstruction and they were against it being filmed in Portugal”
A source
“We are greatly encouraged by new information coming to light with pieces of the jigsaw fitting together.”

Madeleine was days from her fourth birthday when she vanished from her bedroom while her parents dined with friends in a nearby tapas restaurant in the Algarve’s Praia da Luz in May 2007.

Police are investigating theories that the blonde-haired girl was snatched by a paedophile ring or abducted by a burglar.

Senior investigating officer Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood said: “We now believe we have the most complete picture to date of the events surrounding her disappearance.

“We are now making targeted and new appeals for help from the public. There are people who hold the key to Madeleine’s disappearance.”

Crimewatch editor Joe Mather said: “We’re very hopeful that this major reconstruction, along with the substantial new lines of inquiry, will prompt viewers with vital information to get in touch with the officers in the studio on the night of the programme.”

Scotland Yard officers agreed on the Crimewatch format with TV producers.

russiandoll wrote:Re mobile phone use Op Grange, whilst peeling your onion and wiping away the tears from your eyes, don't miss this :

 compare it to other phone use by Mr Mc.

russiandoll wrote:Re mobile phone use Op Grange, whilst peeling your onion and wiping away the tears from your eyes, don't miss this :

 compare it to other phone use by Mr Mc.

russiandoll wrote:

russiandoll wrote:Re mobile phone use Op Grange, whilst peeling your onion and wiping away the tears from your eyes, don't miss this :

 compare it to other phone use by Mr Mc.

  and now hear him, and his wife, being dishonest about the use of mobile phones on their holiday, it is about 1 minute into the video 

  https://youtu.be/7P-z5HJxr0o

aiyoyo wrote:

ultimaThule wrote:

aiyoyo wrote:

The reconstruction is, according to the Crimewatch team, based on “the Met’s latest, most detailed understanding of what took place around the time of Madeleine’s disappearance.

This stood out for me as significant that the recon is on Met's script and NOT the Mccanns & friends script as deposited in their statements.
Maybe their evolving statements make it impossible to  select  which one to use.
I cant wait for the 14th.

This stands out for me as being a reconstruction based on the McCanns' most recent obsfucations version of what took place on the night in question. 

 That is not what the article states.  The article was explicit about the basis of the recon when the police statement was put in quotation marks.

sallypelt wrote:

russiandoll wrote:Re mobile phone use Op Grange, whilst peeling your onion and wiping away the tears from your eyes, don't miss this :

 compare it to other phone use by Mr Mc.

The lack of calls on the 3 May 2007  and the gap between the two that were made, is mystifying.  

Also, the four recorded calls to Kate fro Gerry on the night of the 2nd May, again, mystifying.

Cristobell wrote:Here Sally.  Apologies, they used the 'banned' word, worse imo.  They banned the reconstruction from being filmed in Portugal for fear of angering the Portuguese police.  We have a 'family source' and a 'close source' for the quotes.

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/343257/McCanns-too-upset-for-Madeleine-telly-abduction-re-run


It looks to me as though they are not co-operating with the police.  Can't imagine roughy toughy SY Officers, saying 'ok, so, we'll just film it in Spain, and try not to bother you too much'.

plebgate wrote:I do  not care how upset they would be taking part in a recon.   If it brings their missing daughter back surely that over rides EVERYTHING else.

Think of Maddie's feelings, how is she feeling, what is being done to her? - and they would be too upset to take part in a recon.   WHAAATTTTT?

russiandoll wrote:Newintown, this is what was said, coming after a brief reference to the mix of at least 5 persons' DNA in what was collected.

 I can't hear what they were asked about phone use. Gerry dismisses whatever it was, saying there was no way there were 15/16 texts on the day....

 Kate jumps in so you can't hear clearly what day Gerry was talking about.

 She says that Gerry only sent texts AFTER Maddie went missing.

It is clear from the records that he sent texts and strangely ONLY TEXTS on 2nd May.

 But he dismisses the text question, saying it is RUBBISH.

 All there for SY to see.
 

 They made a reference shortly after the review began to mobile phone analysis.
 They appear to be doing just that, analysing phone use.

 They can't deny what is plain to see, that the phone use is suspicious.

russiandoll wrote:Newintown, this is what was said, coming after a brief reference to the mix of at least 5 persons' DNA in what was collected.

 I can't hear what they were asked about phone use. Gerry dismisses whatever it was, saying there was no way there were 15/16 texts on the day....

 Kate jumps in so you can't hear clearly what day Gerry was talking about.

 She says that Gerry only sent texts AFTER Maddie went missing.

It is clear from the records that he sent texts and strangely ONLY TEXTS on 2nd May.

 But he dismisses the text question, saying it is RUBBISH.

 All there for SY to see.
 

 They made a reference shortly after the review began to mobile phone analysis.
 They appear to be doing just that, analysing phone use.

 They can't deny what is plain to see, that the phone use is suspicious.

Newintown wrote:

sallypelt wrote:

russiandoll wrote:Re mobile phone use Op Grange, whilst peeling your onion and wiping away the tears from your eyes, don't miss this :

 compare it to other phone use by Mr Mc.

The lack of calls on the 3 May 2007  and the gap between the two that were made, is mystifying.  

Also, the four recorded calls to Kate fro Gerry on the night of the 2nd May, again, mystifying.

Wasn't Gerry supposed to be phoning all and sundry late on 3rd May, if he was from that phone well the longest call is only 4 mins 43 secs long up until 1.43 a.m.then there is a gap to 4.14 a.m.  If you're daughter had just been abducted and you were phoning relatives to tell them I'm sure most people would be on the phone more that 4 mins 43 seconds, more like 20-30 minutes.

Those very short calls to Kate could be her not answering the phone, she was obviously "very busy" elsewhere.

russiandoll wrote:Very mystifying no contact between the 2 in the afternoon, each doing their own thing late afternoon, I would have expected one call or text to double check the picking up the kids from crèches arrangement, presumably made before they parted company.

 Nothing between the couple while one was in 5a and the other at tennis, instead Payne was sent with a message.

 I really hope that SY are looking at phone use and non use.

EVERY MOBILE PHONE IS BEING ANALYSED. STATED BY THE MET. I HOPE THOUGH IT IS NOT AS REPORTED BY SKY NEWS..........FROM WHEN MADELEINE WENT MISSING.
 UNLESS THE MET BELIEVE THET SHE WENT MISSING BEFORE 10 PM 3RD MAY.