Re: 19 May Mail on Sunday: 'MADDIE: UK CLEANERS ARE SUSPECTS' + WHO SOOTHED A WEEPING MADDIE the Express

by Woofer 19.05.13 21:41

MJC wrote:
Woofer wrote:
sweetex wrote:Thanks Russiandoll!

I could have missed it, but my question is

Did this Moyes women did an actual statement with the police. I saw the transcript for the radio interview, but is there a police statement? Maybe she has mentioned the couple in her police statement?

The Express didn`t actually say that it was the couple they spoke to (assuming its the Moyes) who said the police were looking for a couple who went into the apartment to comfort Maddie.

The Express started the piece by saying that the police were looking for a couple who comforted Maddie but they don`t give their source. The info about the `Moyes` is added later on in the piece but has nothing to do with the couple that the police are looking for. It didn`t come from the `Moyes` (that`s if it is them).
I concede you are correct, Woofer.

I assumed that Moyes had spoken about the couple.

It does not actually say so in the article.

They way the piece is put together suggests that possibility, but no more.

It still appears, then that we have this:

1. Anonymous couple on the balcony = Moyes

2. Unidentified couple who soothed Madeleine - no-one else has ever previously referred to this alleged happening

3. Someone who is supposedly aware of the couple who supposedly soothed Madeleine - who is it? - could be the Moyes who are aware, could be someone else.

If the 'soothing couple' do exist, it is truly amazing that after 6 years we have never heard of them and Scotland Yard can't find the couple.

It does raise the question as to whether the 'soothing couple' really exist.

Moreover, suppose Scotland Yard really wanted to find the 'soothing couple'.

Would they have chosen this kack-handed way of doing so??

Yes, the whole piece was artfully put together making it seem as though it was the Moyes, but after carefully checking, it seems it doesn`t have to be them.

And yes, one would think that this supposed `soothing couple` together with the witnesses who saw them, would have been high priority witnesses. Maybe they were and their statements form part of the unreleased files. But in that case, SY would have seen the files, know who they were and found them. If they do exist, I doubt they entered to soothe, even if the witnesses who saw them enter thought so.

by Liz Eagles 19.05.13 21:51

Just thinking out loud....

Say the Portuguese Police decide to re-open the case. Can you imagine the affect of the media descending on PDL at holiday time? This is a cash strapped country and the people are struggling to make a living. Tourism is relied heavily upon for income. What would Portuguese people think of the sheer cost of running this investigation and the affect of the world media crawling all over PDL?

by sheila.edwards 19.05.13 21:53

a couple going into comfort child would be new evidence wouldent it so assume case will be reopened to find her.unless not facts and just more no news news.doubt if any info. of value came from all the doggy private investigators that were hired ? with references. if all the money spent so far got that info. at lease they doing something. Portugal may have to take hit of the massive bill now and there suffering recession to which could be a factor. the family fund should be used if needed id say

by Cristobell 19.05.13 21:56

aquila wrote:Just thinking out loud....

Say the Portuguese Police decide to re-open the case. Can you imagine the affect of the media descending on PDL at holiday time? This is a cash strapped country and the people are struggling to make a living. Tourism is relied heavily upon for income. What would Portuguese people think of the sheer cost of running this investigation and the affect of the world media crawling all over PDL?

They may see it as an opportunity to revive their tourist industry

by Woofer 19.05.13 22:06

Although Martin Brunt has suggested the `persons of interest` are not British, but if they are British, SY is able to investigate and bring charges against British citizens who commit a crime abroad. If the suspects are British, the case could be brought by the British. I have quoted the reference for this before, but I`m too tired to look for it now.

by sallypelt 19.05.13 22:13

Woofer wrote:Although Martin Brunt has suggested the `persons of interest` are not British, but if they are British, SY is able to investigate and bring charges against British citizens who commit a crime abroad. If the suspects are British, the case could be brought by the British. I have quoted the reference for this before, but I`m too tired to look for it now.

Didn't Brunt say "they were foreign"? And if he is in Portugal, could he have meant they aren't from Portugal?

Just a thought!

by noddy100 19.05.13 22:14

Just seena tweet saying case re opened 2 days ago?

by Woofer 19.05.13 22:18

sallypelt wrote:
Woofer wrote:Although Martin Brunt has suggested the `persons of interest` are not British, but if they are British, SY is able to investigate and bring charges against British citizens who commit a crime abroad. If the suspects are British, the case could be brought by the British. I have quoted the reference for this before, but I`m too tired to look for it now.

Didn't Brunt say "they were foreign"? And if he is in Portugal, could he have meant they aren't from Portugal?

Just a thought!

We live in hope !

by Woofer 19.05.13 22:19

noddy100 wrote:Just seena tweet saying case re opened 2 days ago?

Can you say who by Noddy?

by plebgate 19.05.13 22:20

noddy100 wrote:Just seena tweet saying case re opened 2 days ago?

Interesting, let's hope Brunty has seen it and can confirm or anyone else who is in Portugal.

by noddy100 19.05.13 22:25

It was an Israeli newspaper reporting the news about maddie being soothed Will go back and look

by noddy100 19.05.13 22:25

@israelnewsnow

by Woofer 19.05.13 22:26

https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/336228926798053376/photo/1

TOMORROW`S FRONTPAGE - DAILY STAR :-

NEW HOPE AS MADDIE COPS HUNT 8 BRITS

Notice it says Brits.

by Woofer 19.05.13 22:33

noddy100 wrote:@israelnewsnow

You`re right -

"The British paper The Sunday Express has reported eyewitness accounts that a middle-aged couple "soothed" a crying Madeleine McCann on the evening prior to her disappearance.

Two witnesses claim they saw a middle-aged couple enter the apartment to comfort Madeleine, who was crying, "Apparently they were concerned about the crying and went to see if they could comfort the girl," a source told the paper. It is currently assumed that Scotland Yard detectives are attempting to identify the couple. The investigation was reopened two days ago. (Ynet) "

by plebgate 19.05.13 22:36

Thanks noddy100. Maybe that's why Brunty hopped over their quick smart?

by maebee 19.05.13 23:01

Woofer wrote:https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/336228926798053376/photo/1

TOMORROW`S FRONTPAGE - DAILY STAR :-

NEW HOPE AS MADDIE COPS HUNT 8 BRITS

Notice it says Brits.

T9 minus 1 (Dianne webster) ?

by russiandoll 19.05.13 23:02

Woofer wrote:https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/336228926798053376/photo/1

TOMORROW`S FRONTPAGE - DAILY STAR :-

NEW HOPE AS MADDIE COPS HUNT 8 BRITS

Notice it says Brits.

a middle- aged couple and 6 cleaners......leave DW out of it and there you have 'em !

by Guest 19.05.13 23:03

That's what I thought Maebee! No need to call in any dodgy detectives to hunt them down - we all know where they are.

by Nina 19.05.13 23:07

There will be some people in the morning convinced that this is the truth, and there will be some who will be happy that they do.

by Pershing36 19.05.13 23:07

maebee wrote:
Woofer wrote:https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/336228926798053376/photo/1

TOMORROW`S FRONTPAGE - DAILY STAR :-

NEW HOPE AS MADDIE COPS HUNT 8 BRITS

Notice it says Brits.

T9 minus 1 (Dianne webster) ?

They would hardly be hunting them they know exactly where they are.

Now we have this mysterious middle aged couple the believers will be convinced they took her whether they find them or not.

by View-from-Ireland 19.05.13 23:09

maebee wrote:
Woofer wrote:https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/336228926798053376/photo/1

TOMORROW`S FRONTPAGE - DAILY STAR :-

NEW HOPE AS MADDIE COPS HUNT 8 BRITS

Notice it says Brits.

T9 minus 1 (Dianne webster) ?

Well, it is obvious to the rest of us. Yet, the T9 haven't been so keen to step forward so that their names can be cleared once and for all.

by Nina 19.05.13 23:12

Pershing36 wrote:
maebee wrote:
Woofer wrote:https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/336228926798053376/photo/1

TOMORROW`S FRONTPAGE - DAILY STAR :-

NEW HOPE AS MADDIE COPS HUNT 8 BRITS

Notice it says Brits.

T9 minus 1 (Dianne webster) ?

They would hardly be hunting them they know exactly where they are.

Now we have this mysterious middle aged couple the believers will be convinced they took her whether they find them or not.

And they will be convinced that this kind middle aged couple are really caring for her well and she is being treated like a princess.

by maebee 19.05.13 23:18

The numbers have gone from 195 to 20 to 9 to 8.

We're getting there.

by loopzdaloop 19.05.13 23:29

maebee wrote:
Woofer wrote:https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/336228926798053376/photo/1

TOMORROW`S FRONTPAGE - DAILY STAR :-

NEW HOPE AS MADDIE COPS HUNT 8 BRITS

Notice it says Brits.

T9 minus 1 (Dianne webster) ?

why might it be minus Dianne Webster?

I might also believe the paper from israel as they won't be subject to the same fears or restrictions the UK papers might.

EDIT: was just reading Dianne Webster's rogatory interview and realised they left her telephone number in.
Wonder if they've left Gerrys?

4078 “Yeah. There’s another number here, again, I don’t know if this will mean anything to you because I’m not sure it’s a telephone number, I think it might be a network type number for browsing, the internet browser or something. Its o, seven, nine, seven, three, one, zero, zero, six, one, zero.”
Reply “Doesn’t ring any bells. That sounds like a mobile number doesn’t it.”

4078 “Yeah.”
Reply “Err…”

4078 “I don’t think that you will have that in your phone because on the information we have it’s a web browsing number or a platform number or something, which I don’t fully understand, but I think its to do with you being abroad.”
Reply “I don’t do any web browsing on my phone, so.”

4078 “It may be that you’ve received, well in fact this, you’ve received a text message from this number.”
Reply “Oh I wondered…”

4078 “On May the third at half past seven in the evening.”
Reply “Half past seven in the evening?”

4078 “What it could be, what I’m guessing it could be, is perhaps a text message from your network provider, with you being abroad, maybe they’d sent you a text or something. Well anyway, suffice it to say don’t worry too much about that number because I’m sure that, I don’t think you’ll be able to…”
Reply “You see I did get a text from err my daughter in New Zealand, it’s not the same number. The number I’ve got here is err o, six, four, two, one, six, four, o, eight, eight, five.”

4078 “I haven’t got that number here. The other number then, well, there are two more numbers, I just wanted to see if you have them in your phone. Its plus four, four, or zero, depending on where its dialled from, seven, seven, four, zero, three, zero, four, one, one, five.”
Reply “You see I don’t recall people’s mobile numbers so its (laughs).”

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DIANE-WEBSTER-2.htm

by Pershing36 19.05.13 23:30

Nina wrote:
And they will be convinced that this kind middle aged couple are really caring for her well and she is being treated like a princess.

Oh of course, next thing we will need is a fund to reimburse them for all the money they have spent over the last 6 years.

All this being treated like a princess. Now even the SY review has moved away nasty to sexual predators to the more palatable, kind, soothing middle aged couple being the abductors.

As cynical as I have been about the review from the beginning they really have surprised.

KM insists she was abducted by a couple who were going to treat her like a princess and the conclusion of SY is she is with a lovely middle aged couple who had being looking out for her night after night.

If anyone would have said this at the start of the review they would have been laughed out of the forum.

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