Investigator ensures that Maddie's body in the backyard of Murat

sharonl wrote:Another old news report

Madeleine: Police digging at chief suspect's home

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-473242/Madeleine-Police-digging-chief-suspects-home.html

The second picture in this article is one of the 5 pics that the SA Investigator sent to me in March 2011, to back up his claim that Madeleine was buried in Murats back yard.

If there was any truth in all of this, then the body could not have been buried there around May 3rd as this would not tie in with cadaver odour found in the hire car 3 weeks later.

Neither did the dogs alert to Murats property

So the body would have been moved there after the initial searches - highly unlikely

If the police are really going to dig up the garden again, would it not be more beneficial to call in the dogs first?

To me this resembles the case where Marcos Aragao Correio claimed that Madeleine had been thrown into the Arade dam, a publicity stunt that sells papers.

All the old Daily Mail articles on Murat http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/search.html?pageOffset=1&pageSize=&sel=site&searchPhrase=robert+murat&orderBy=relevDesc&_channelshortname=on&_channelshortname=on&_channelshortname=on&_channelshortname=on&_channelshortname=on&_channelshortname=on&_contenttype=on&dateupdated=&dateFrom=&dateTo=&_authornamef=on&_authornamef=on&_authornamef=on&_authornamef=on&_authornamef=on&_personnames=on

sharonl wrote:Just for the record, the investigator that sent me an e-mail 15 months ago clearly stated that he had also been in touch with Goncalo Amaral and the Policia Judiciari and anything that he had forwarded to me was also in the hands of the PJ.

sharonl wrote:Just for the record, the investigator that sent me an e-mail 15 months ago clearly stated that he had also been in touch with Goncalo Amaral and the Policia Judiciari and anything that he had forwarded to me was also in the hands of the PJ.

sharonl wrote:Just for the record, the investigator that sent me an e-mail 15 months ago clearly stated that he had also been in touch with Goncalo Amaral and the Policia Judiciari and anything that he had forwarded to me was also in the hands of the PJ.

tcat wrote:He sounds credible enough to me in the radio interview, but if it's true he's been looking at the case for 15 months, and has accumulated 12,000 pages, he ought to have released some of that information to back his claims up instead of just marching in and making serious allegations like the 2007 searches weren't done properly.

If he has 12,000 pages to back up his conclusions, Mr Birch should publish some of them so people aren't doubting his motives. Otherwise he's in danger of looking like another Halligen, and people, and the police, might think this week's efforts are aimed at generating publicity prior to the publication of a book or documentary.

Publish, Mr Birch

tcat wrote:He sounds credible enough to me in the radio interview, but if it's true he's been looking at the case for 15 months, and has accumulated 12,000 pages, he ought to have released some of that information to back his claims up instead of just marching in and making serious allegations like the 2007 searches weren't done properly.

If he has 12,000 pages to back up his conclusions, Mr Birch should publish some of them so people aren't doubting his motives. Otherwise he's in danger of looking like another Halligen, and people, and the police, might think this week's efforts are aimed at generating publicity prior to the publication of a book or documentary.

Publish, Mr Birch

Mike wrote:

sharonl wrote:Just for the record, the investigator that sent me an e-mail 15 months ago clearly stated that he had also been in touch with Goncalo Amaral and the Policia Judiciari and anything that he had forwarded to me was also in the hands of the PJ.

If the PJ have had this information for 15 months surely they would have acted on it before now?
Seems the whole thing is just another hoax.

ShuBob wrote:Another Halligen? How so? What did Halligen produce for public consumption? He'll be more akin to Marcos Aragao IMO.

sweetex wrote:

tcat wrote:He sounds credible enough to me in the radio interview, but if it's true he's been looking at the case for 15 months, and has accumulated 12,000 pages, he ought to have released some of that information to back his claims up instead of just marching in and making serious allegations like the 2007 searches weren't done properly.

If he has 12,000 pages to back up his conclusions, Mr Birch should publish some of them so people aren't doubting his motives. Otherwise he's in danger of looking like another Halligen, and people, and the police, might think this week's efforts are aimed at generating publicity prior to the publication of a book or documentary.

Publish, Mr Birch

I read the 12000 pages, as the PJ files which he worked through to do his investigation. Not as his own.

This is the news article in South Africa today.... only one so far. He claims he has tested this machine on 12 "unmarked" bodies before he went to PDL.

"“I was trained for two months in the use of the device and knew its capabilities. During the test I was able to identify 12 bodies without marked graves between 1.5 and 2m below the surface,” Birch said."


http://www.thepost.co.za/i-ve-found-maddie-cape-man-1.1336216

sweetex wrote:Google translation:
Their lawyer wants police to act.

The McCann family's Portuguese lawyer, Rogério Alves said that the PJ should act on the suspicions, advanced by a private investigator, that there is a body buried in the yard of Robert Murat, in the Algarve.

The track, according to the newspaper "Morning Post", you have been supplied to PJ and Scotland Yard for a South African businessman who was in the Algarve in particular investigations. Using a system of geo-radar, Stephen Birch claims to have detected changes in the basement of the backyard of Murat, a neighbor of the hotel complex where the British girl disappeared. Changes that are supposed to be consistent with the possible existence of a body buried there.
When "Morning Post", Rogério Alves says now that "the family hopes that the police take a position on this matter and verify the location."
The representative of McCann explains that the girl's family does not know the business, but before a claim "as perentória, the family hopes that the police go check (...) if you do not, say why."

http://www.dn.pt/especiais/interior.aspx?content_id=2653347&especial=Revistas%20de%20Imprensa&seccao=TV%20e%20MEDIA

sweetex wrote:

ShuBob wrote:I don't think it's fair that the names of innocent people are being dragged into this because of a story with unproven credibility. Are the lives of the ******** going to be dissected now?

Silence is not necessary a sign of being guilty. But I wonder if ****** will make a comment about this. Maybe also consulting his attorneys now. This implication is HUGE, and really hope SB knows what he is talking about, otherwise he is going to spend the rest of his life paying off libel fees, well either that or he is going to jail.

sweetex wrote:@tcat

As far as I know according to all the reports all his evidence was sent to the PJ and SY. I am under correction, but that is what it looks like. I have also read that SY asked him for MORE information. I would love for him to publish it all in public domain. Either PJ or SY will have to make a decision to clear up this confusion and to eliminate the rumours.

sweetex wrote:It seems that the GSA is misleading. It comes from the google translation. The original is in fact M.J.S. Very strange that google does that, but it seems that was what happened. (Also according to someone on the MM forum)

Apologies.

The mystery man's initials is M.J.S according to the original report

russiandoll wrote:

sweetex wrote:

ShuBob wrote:I don't think it's fair that the names of innocent people are being dragged into this because of a story with unproven credibility. Are the lives of the **** going to be dissected now?

Silence is not necessary a sign of being guilty. But I wonder if ******* will make a comment about this. Maybe also consulting his attorneys now. This implication is HUGE, and really hope SB knows what he is talking about, otherwise he is going to spend the rest of his life paying off libel fees, well either that or he is going to jail.

please correct me if I am mistaken, but did not someone on a forum simply quote 3 initials which when put through google translate changed? I dont understand that as your initials are the same in any language using our alphabet.
Even if the initial chage to MJS is correct, it was someone on a forum, not Mr Birch, who came up with a name? Maybe we had better be careful what we are posting on here.

tcat wrote:He sounds credible enough to me in the radio interview, but if it's true he's been looking at the case for 15 months, and has accumulated 12,000 pages, he ought to have released some of that information to back his claims up instead of just marching in and making serious allegations like the 2007 searches weren't done properly.

If he has 12,000 pages to back up his conclusions, Mr Birch should publish some of them so people aren't doubting his motives. Otherwise he's in danger of looking like another Halligen, and people, and the police, might think this week's efforts are aimed at generating publicity prior to the publication of a book or documentary.

Publish, Mr Birch