Investigator ensures that Maddie's body in the backyard of Murat

uppatoffee wrote:http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/exclusivo-cm/elite-da-policia-inglesa-aposta-em-nova-pista

SUSPECT THE SAME PORTRAIT-ROBOT
In one of the emails sent to PJ, Stephen Birch says that one of their suspects - MJS - is equal to the portrait-robot made at the time. "Compare the photo of his passport with the picture. Is he a beard and mustache."
Jane, a friend of the McCanns, said at the time surveyors of the Judiciary that about 21:15 the day of the May 3, 2007 had seen a man with a child in pajamas on her lap. It was through his description that the portrait was done.

If this is what he is basing his findings on then it doesn't look hopeful. The photofit drawings look nothing like the picture of MJS in the PJ files. But given that it is based on someone that JT allegedly saw then the whole thing seems unlikely anyway!

sweetex wrote:"The hole was dug in the back of the house from 21:00 to 21h20 [May 3]. The child was buried from 22.05 to 22.15. At 22:20, the McCanns were seen outside the property Murat, "since after Kate, mother of the child, has given warning of the disappearance. The businessman, a passionate case for a year, not without evidence, accused Kate and Gerry, but refers to the connection that exists between said Maddie's father and a British businessman, who was in Praia da Luz holiday."

Interesting

bristow wrote:

sweetex wrote:"The hole was dug in the back of the house from 21:00 to 21h20 [May 3]. The child was buried from 22.05 to 22.15. At 22:20, the McCanns were seen outside the property Murat, "since after Kate, mother of the child, has given warning of the disappearance. The businessman, a passionate case for a year, not without evidence, accused Kate and Gerry, but refers to the connection that exists between said Maddie's father and a British businessman, who was in Praia da Luz holiday."

Interesting

Very interesting.

Either this SB is talking a load of bull**** or has some VERY close connections to the whole horrible episode, otherwise how on earth would he have exact burial times?? (According to him MM would have died before 21.00 on May 3rd.)
I wonder if he knows one of the McCann holiday party very well and they 'confided' in him.

Hopefully we will find out, but the ground definitely needs to be dug again, to prove or disprove his theory.

sweetex wrote:"The hole was dug in the back of the house from 21:00 to 21h20 [May 3]. The child was buried from 22.05 to 22.15. At 22:20, the McCanns were seen outside the property Murat, "since after Kate, mother of the child, has given warning of the disappearance. The businessman, a passionate case for a year, not without evidence, accused Kate and Gerry, but refers to the connection that exists between said Maddie's father and a British businessman, who was in Praia da Luz holiday."

Interesting

sweetex wrote:

bristow wrote:

sweetex wrote:"The hole was dug in the back of the house from 21:00 to 21h20 [May 3]. The child was buried from 22.05 to 22.15. At 22:20, the McCanns were seen outside the property Murat, "since after Kate, mother of the child, has given warning of the disappearance. The businessman, a passionate case for a year, not without evidence, accused Kate and Gerry, but refers to the connection that exists between said Maddie's father and a British businessman, who was in Praia da Luz holiday."

Interesting

Very interesting.

Either this SB is talking a load of bull**** or has some VERY close connections to the whole horrible episode, otherwise how on earth would he have exact burial times?? (According to him MM would have died before 21.00 on May 3rd.)
I wonder if he knows one of the McCann holiday party very well and they 'confided' in him.

Hopefully we will find out, but the ground definitely needs to be dug again, to prove or disprove his theory.

I agree - there is no way he can know this, unless he has inside information from someone. Or he is a nutcase

Angelique wrote:If it is true that this Stephen Birch was able to access Murat's mothers property then that same goes for Team McCann.

Or any other individuals/organisations.

Woofer wrote:

sweetex wrote:

uppatoffee wrote:There was a *******who was in the Tapas restaurant on the night of 3 May. He had a booking for 2 at 9pm.

First time I heard of him. Although I'm not clued up on all the guest lists etc.

@ShuBob - First time I too hear about Gerry surfing

There is a ****** who is into sailing, snowboarding and has a marketing business, see

http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/mike-sperrey/6/849/438

but might be a different person as he`s from Warwickshire.

Hummingbird wrote:

Woofer wrote:

sweetex wrote:

uppatoffee wrote:There was a ****** who was in the Tapas restaurant on the night of 3 May. He had a booking for 2 at 9pm.

First time I heard of him. Although I'm not clued up on all the guest lists etc.

@ShuBob - First time I too hear about Gerry surfing

There is a ********who is into sailing, snowboarding and has a marketing business, see

http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/mike-sperrey/6/849/438

but might be a different person as he`s from Warwickshire.

Are we saying that this *********was at the OC at the same time as the MCs? If so, then it is very very strange how many people who were there 'seem' to have possible connections to the MCs.
Remember the picture of Madeleine on the pony with KM at her side? That was taken at Hatton Country World and I confirmed that they do issue armbands there as I have been there many times! I also pointed out that it was rather a distance from Leicestershire for a little day trip to a farm and country shopping village but it is in Warwickshire!! So is there a connection to this business man, was GM visiting him for the day and KM took Madeleine to the farm whilst he was there? Long shot but when I saw where he was from it just shot straight out at me!
What I find very odd about this 'revelation' is if you were the owner of the property and this was being said surely you would insist it were dug up if not just to prove there was nothing there, if you were the parents of a missing child from that area you would be there digging with your bare hands however many large guard dogs there may be - you would want to know one way or the other - and if you were the police - unless you had an agenda to see who this would rattle - you would not and could not ignore this, how many 'sightings' have there been of MM and they have been followed up so why not this. Yes he is probably a nutter BUT on the other hand he could know something and even if this proves to not be a body then it could lead to other things!

A source close to the McCanns, of Rothley, Leics, said: “It appears this so-called investigator used scanning equipment during a visit to the resort in June.

“Kate and Gerry do not believe there is anything credible in what he is saying. It seems to be complete lies. If there was any truth in it, police would be out there digging up the area looking for possible remains.”

Pershing36 wrote:Unfortunately I have to agree with them. If the Police thought this was credible surely the area would be closed off by now.

sharonl wrote:This old news article may be of some interest
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-489408/Madeleines-DNA-Murats-house-police-claim.html

According to sources quoted in the newspaper 24 Horas DNA samples found in his house was Madeleine's.
Detectives claimed they matched traces found in the hire car rented by the Kate and Gerry McCann 25 days after Madeleine disappeared.

Mr Murat,33, an Anglo-Portuguese who lives at his mother's rambling walled villa Casa Liliana, was arrested two weeks after the youngster vanished from her parents's holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, 60 yards away.
He became the first and only official suspect in the case until Kate and Gerry, both 39, were named by Portugal's Justice Ministry six weeks ago.
Sources alleged Mr Murat did not return to the house after his arrest on May 14 on suspicion of havimg been involved in Madeleine's disappearance.

The tell-tale traces were reportedly discovered during searches between June 10 and August 4.


They explain why Portuguese police are refusing to drop their theory that Madeleine died in her parents' apartment and her body was hidden nearby until it could be removed from the area.

ShuBob wrote:I don't think it's fair that the names of innocent people are being dragged into this because of a story with unproven credibility. Are the lives of the ******** going to be dissected now?

Cheshire Cat wrote:

If this is where the body was hidden and then moved then it would have to have been moved back to the garden at a later date. Perhaps a much later date?

Pershing36 wrote:

Cheshire Cat wrote:

If this is where the body was hidden and then moved then it would have to have been moved back to the garden at a later date. Perhaps a much later date?

That's the only way I see this scenario working if it to be true. Moving a body would make sense to stop it being found. However you would be taking a hell of a risk each time you moved it.

If this does turn out to be correct I am wondering if something went wrong at some point or it was in danger of being found and panic set in and it was brought to the home out of desperation. Lets face it it is not the most intelligent thing to do in your own garden. It instantly makes you a suspect.