Re: Interview with Father Haynes Hubbard 5 year on

by Guest 05.05.12 9:29

Jean wrote:Further mention of the Hubbards in Antonella Lazzeri's latest attempt at journalism.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/4298857/The-McCanns-vow-to-continue-search-for-Maddie-five-years-after-she-disappeared.html

The comments about Sr Amaral and the police are an absolute disgrace!

Thanks Jean. Interesting though they put this bit in from Goncalo ..............

When the TV host remonstrated with him, the vile ex-cop replied: “I do not know why he (Gerry McCann) says there must be a body. In order to prove the child is dead it is not necessary to have a body.

Also this, she is going to be in trouble big grin

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It was the start of a nightmare for her parents that has lasted five years — and for the world, the beginning of one of the most puzzling mysteries of all time

by **PeterMac** 05.05.12 9:42

But the four comments are not supportive.

mann210
if what he says is true then the witness who said she saw a man carrying a young child away is wrong,so what can you make of that.If only there was something to go on that was sound.
-----------------But most parents at the resort used the free evening creche while they ate out and then carried their often sleepy/sleeping kids back to their apartments. A man carrying a sleeping child in their pyjamas at the resort would therefore not be an unusual sight.

jasonw666
until there is more transparency from the parents, this case can never really be properly investigated. how many parents would refuse to do a reconstruction ?. most parents would crawl over broken glass if they felt it would help find their child safely.

ireadsun
i would never leave my kids in their own ,in a evening ,in a bed when i am out ,in foreign country ..that all

mann21
if what he says is true then the witness who said she saw a man carrying a young child away is wrong,so what can you make of that.If only there was something to go on that was sound.

by **tigger** 05.05.12 9:43

from the Sun:
For Kate and Gerry that reinvestigation could hold the key to them being reunited with Madeleine — or at least having the comfort of knowing what happened to her.

But I thought she was being held by a paedophile gang in a lawless village! After five years of that - is that going to be a comfort to know?

If she is with a family who fell instantly in love with her, kidnapped her and she now looks like the latest picture - a serene schoolgirl.
I'd leave her where she is - it'd certainly be a greater comfort to me.

by Miraflores 05.05.12 10:24

Latest comment:

The McCanns vow to continue search for daughter
Dont they mean they will continue to allow others to search for her
,,,,,,,,,,,,They wont find her sat at home will they ???? No ..They
need to get out there and look and not leave it to others

by **PeterMac** 05.05.12 11:05

and a couple more

fxmaster
They were in the wrong by leaving her alone and they want our sympathy, i know it's sad what has happened but if they hadn't of left her alone none of this would of happened and the most shocking thing is i bet they was watched for the duration of the holiday and it probably wasn't the first time they left there kids alone, also i bet if they got all the cctv from the place and look for people looking suspicious that would give them clues.

tell the truth
Is this going to go on all bank holiday weekend? Stuck down the bottom of the page, fooling no one. There is no transparency only laboured spin that couldn't be more obvious. As someone who contributed to the fund I amongst many would like transparency.

Look at you
The McCanns vow to continue search for daughter
Dont they mean they will continue to allow others to search for her ,,,,,,,,,,,,They wont find her sat at home will they ???? No ..They need to get out there and look and not leave it to others

by monkey mind 05.05.12 13:12

PeterMac wrote:But the four comments are not supportive.

mann210
if what he says is true then the witness who said she saw a man carrying a young child away is wrong,so what can you make of that.If only there was something to go on that was sound.
-----------------But most parents at the resort used the free evening creche while they ate out and then carried their often sleepy/sleeping kids back to their apartments. A man carrying a sleeping child in their pyjamas at the resort would therefore not be an unusual sight.

jasonw666
until there is more transparency from the parents, this case can never really be properly investigated. how many parents would refuse to do a reconstruction ?. most parents would crawl over broken glass if they felt it would help find their child safely.

ireadsun
i would never leave my kids in their own ,in a evening ,in a bed when i am out ,in foreign country ..that all

mann21
if what he says is true then the witness who said she saw a man carrying a young child away is wrong,so what can you make of that.If only there was something to go on that was sound.

The first poster sounds like he has some knowledge of PDL and confirms what many of us had concluded that it would not be unusual to see a child being carried at that time of night. Here's a coincidence....

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t2551-creche-sheets-and-attendance-charts

Last post, names .

by Guest 05.05.12 21:34

[quote="candyfloss"]Interview with Father Haynes Hubbard, he's the Anglican priest isn't he, where is an interview with a Catholic one, I thought they were Catholics.......

From what I remember of his statement it read more as though he is a personal friend of the Mccann's as opposed to their religious mentor. His statement more or less was a carbon copy of the Mccann's version so I guess that confirms his close friendship with them.

by Guest 05.05.12 21:39

[quote="Gollum"]

candyfloss wrote:Interview with Father Haynes Hubbard, he's the Anglican priest isn't he, where is an interview with a Catholic one, I thought they were Catholics.......

From what I remember of his statement it read more as though he is a personal friend of the Mccann's as opposed to their religious mentor. His statement more or less was a carbon copy of the Mccann's version so I guess that confirms his close friendship with them.

Yes, he is a close friend, Mrs Hubbard babysat the twins on occasions. My point is they are Catholics, why haven't we had any interviews with a Catholic priest. Surely a Catholic priest would be the one to befriend you and give you comfort, etc. Wouldn't a Catholic priest be the first one you turned to? Is Fr Pacheco (spelling?) still in PDL? Anyone know?

by Guest 05.05.12 21:51

[quote="candyfloss"]

Gollum wrote:
candyfloss wrote:Interview with Father Haynes Hubbard, he's the Anglican priest isn't he, where is an interview with a Catholic one, I thought they were Catholics.......

From what I remember of his statement it read more as though he is a personal friend of the Mccann's as opposed to their religious mentor. His statement more or less was a carbon copy of the Mccann's version so I guess that confirms his close friendship with them.

Yes, he is a close friend, Mrs Hubbard babysat the twins on occasions. My point is they are Catholics, why haven't we had any interviews with a Catholic priest. Surely a Catholic priest would be the one to befriend you and give you comfort, etc. Wouldn't a Catholic priest be the first one you turned to? Is Fr Pacheco (spelling?) still in PDL? Anyone know?

Good question, the Catholic Priest in PDL.

by aiyoyo 06.05.12 4:27

Ashwarya wrote:I agree, the whole Fr Hubbard thing is very odd. It is understandable that the church is shared between protestants and catholics, as PDL attracts (or used to attract!) so many foreign visitors who might want an English speaking Anglican priest to conduct services for them. But it is unthinkable that in a Catholic country he would be centre stage the way he is - he would be a bit player. As for poor Fr Pacheco, I asked my parish priest in general terms whether a priest could ever break the seal of the confessional, even to the Pope, and he said no. What is more he confirmed that priests cannot withhold absolution if they believe the penitent is truly remorseful, so they can't put any conditions on absolution such as admitting what they have done to the police or anyone else. So if Fr Pacheco believed at the time they were sincere and absolved them of whatever it was, he would be tortured now by the circus that has gone on since May 2007. Fr Hubbard IMO was definitely shipped in for some reason - the coincidence otherwise of his arrival within a couple of days stretches credibility much too far.

Its fantastic isnt it - this religion where if you commit a crime, even of the most severe kind of taking a human life and as long as you confessed, you're granted absolution - no condition and no question about it , and your responsibility to answer for it becomes nil and you start anew again!

Isn't it just...... that a man can grant another man (a sinner) absolute absolution! A priest is after all just a man! Sorry don't mean to offend anyone but it's just the way I feel.

I imagine heaven is full of them isn't it (sinners I mean), and the gate keeper, St. peter is just supposed to welcome them with open arm and admit them with no question asked - Das ist wunderbar!
Are we all standing in the same queue?
Not me - thank you, I rather be elsewhere.

by **PeterMac** 06.05.12 6:29

Do little children and Catholic Priests both go to Heaven ?

by aiyoyo 06.05.12 13:01

Which heaven?

The heaven sinners go to, because admission is presumably guaranteed after people including sinners, have confessed and received absolution? Or a different one?

I have always thought there can be only one nation up there (in heaven) I mean.
If it's going to a united nation, then what is the point of queuing at St Peter's gate only to get in then find that people there still squabble with one another over religion differences, or cultural difference, or nation divide, and you still live side by side with sinners, criminals and murderers and what not?

by Guest 06.05.12 13:31

PeterMac wrote:Do little children and Catholic Priests both go to Heaven ?

Some children will hope that some priests don't!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01h7m8r/This_World_The_Shame_of_the_Catholic_Church/

This is a programme about the cover-up of allegations against priests in Ireland.

by Guest 19.05.12 22:01

Putting this here for information............

candyfloss wrote:I will put this here and also in the Haynes Hubbard Video thread so it can be found easily. It seems he is on the move.......

#McCann : Rev. Haynes Hubbard - Times Of Transition.
Times of Transition

The Pastoral Unit comprising Christ Church, Gananoque and Church of the Redeemer Rockport are awaiting the arrival of their new Incumbent, Rev. Christine Downey who will relocate with her husband Benjamin from the Diocese of Huron and begin her ministry with them on May 1st. Also, the people of St. Mark’s, Barriefield will welcome their new Incumbent, Rev. Haynes Hubbard, his wife Susan and family who will relocate from the Anglican Chaplaincy in the Algarve, Portugal on July 1st. Please continue to hold these parishes, clergy and families in your prayers as they continue through this time of transition.

I have heard Susan is already in Canada.

http://www.ontario.anglican.ca/joomla/index.php?option=com_k2&view=latest&layout=latest&Itemid=361

Bizarre, there is something flesh crawling about this entire case.

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