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Post by Bird131 07.11.21 19:57

My latest private investigation involved the murder of Inge Lotz in South Africa. In solving the case, an unholy alliance between the murderers and a corrupt senior police director were uncovered. The case was riddled with lies and the fabrication of evidence. It also exposed the immoral lengths to which some are willing to venture to ensure the truth never surfaces.
 
About four years ago and with this in mind, my attention was drawn to the unsolved Madeleine McCann case in Portugal. It's probably an innocent twist of fate, but the two victims were both born on the 12th of May (Inge in 1982 and Madeleine in 2003).
 
In both cases, the parents are regarded as suspects. The list of uncanny similarities includes suspiciously staged crime scenes, the fabrication of evidence, false witnesses, ongoing lies, huge rewards offered and books written to conceal the truth.
 
To protect persons involved in any serious crime, the creating and contamination of a false crime scene, with ‘irrefutable’ evidence, is the perfect red herring. Attempts to link the guilty parties to a theatrical crime scene (Apartment 5A in Madeleine’s case), including associated ‘evidence’ found in a hired Renault Scenic, is plain impossible.
 
Apartment 5A was ‘shut down’ shortly after the disappearance of Madeleine on the 3rd May 2007. One month later, the apartment was rented out between 12th June and 26th July 2007 to three families on holiday. Sometime between mid-May and the end of July 2007, a team of experts gained access to Apartment 5A armed with essential tools required to mislead the world.
 
In going about their profane task, the team used a cadaver item and a vial containing human blood to contaminate strategically identified places in the apartment. Similarly, at a different location, carefully chosen clothing and a toy would have been ‘treated’ with the cadaver item. Using the same method, a vehicle and its keys were also linked to the crime.
 
Part two of the staged crime scene took place on the 3rd August 2007 when the dogs Eddie and Keela were deployed. As planned, sometimes with a little encouragement from their handler, the two dogs alerted to the scent of human blood and a corpse in Apartment 5A. This was also the case with a Renault Scenic which became a forensic item of interest.
 
The Portuguese police understandably believed their case was almost obvious. But, the proving of anyone’s guilt at a staged crime scene, where no death took place (in Apartment 5A), was never going to happen. The main concern of the experts and their government, was that their ruse might not stand the test of time. Fourteen years later, time still miraculously holds onto the key.
 
Those who have a real interest in the truth, but whose puzzle has more missing than physical pieces, should try applying this scenario. Fact or fiction, it might provide clarity to numerous questions until now seemingly impossible to fathom.
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Post by Guest 07.11.21 20:53

What an extraordinary theory.
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Post by Silentscope 07.11.21 20:58

It was Wednesday 16 March 2005, an ordinary day in the Boland. Brilliant Stellenbosch University student Inge Lotz said goodbye to her boyfriend, actuary Fred van der Vyver, at 8.15. He had to attend a class at the university.

The previous night, as he did every Tuesday night, he’d slept over at her flat, 21 Shiraz in Klein Welgevonden.

When he said goodbye to her it was the last time he saw her alive. Inge’s body was found in her flat at 10.36 pm that night. Now, on the 11th anniversary of her murder, the question that still haunts her family is: Who brutally murdered their beautiful girl?

After a string of frustrating court cases, neither armchair detectives nor the authorities have been able to give the Lotz family closure. YOU takes a look at how events unfolded over the past 11 years:

16 March 2005

Inge Lotz’s bloodied body is found in her flat in Klein Welgevonden, Stellenbosch, by Christo Pretorius, a church friend of Marius Botha, Fred’s flatmate.

15 April 2005

Fred takes an ornamental hammer, a gift from Inge’s parents, from his bakkie and hands it over to the police.

15 June 2005

It becomes known that the police want to prosecute Fred for Inge’s murder and he hands himself over to them at the Cloetesville police station in Stellenbosch.

16 September 2005

The murder case against Fred is postponed for more than a year.

Read more: Fred van der Vyfer’s father sued for outstanding fees: report

October 2006

Fingerprint experts disagree over whether Fred’s fingerprint was lifted from a DVD container (Inge had taken out the DVD at 3.15 pm) or a glass. Fred’s team say the police are purposely trying to mislead them about the fingerprint, but their attempts to have the murder case removed from the roll fails.

February 2007

The murder case begins in the Western Cape High Court.

November 2007

Judge Deon van Zyl acquits Fred of Inge’s murder and in his judgement he rejects the state’s evidence on the blood stain on the bathroom floor, the ornamental hammer and the fingerprint on the DVD container.

May 2009

Inge’s parents drop a civil claim of R8,5 million that they’d wanted to bring against Fred.

August 2011

Judge Anton Veldhuizen finds in a civil case that the police had indeed maliciously prosecuted Fred and awarded damages of R46 million.

November 2011

The minister of police is given leave to appeal against Fred’s successful claim of malicious prosecution.

Read more: Fred van der Vyver vindicated

March 2012

Inge’s parents, Professor Jan and Juanita Lotz, offer a R1 million reward to anyone with information that will help solve the murder. They also appoint master detective Piet Byleveld to further investigate the matter.

March 2013

The state succeeds in its appeal to have the verdict that Fred had been maliciously prosecuted set aside. Fred’s legal representative, Advocate Dup de Bruyn, indicates that they will turn to the Constitutional Court.

May 2013

The Constitutional Court turns down Fred’s application to appeal against the Appeal Court’s finding.

June 2013

Professor Jan Lotz terminates Piet Byleveld’s mandate to investigate Inge’s murder.

November 2013

Jan asks the National Director of Public Prosecutions (NDPP) to reopen the murder case against Fred after physicist Professor Kobus Visser says in a report that Fred’s fingerprint was indeed lifted from a flat surface. “People tell me I should close the book and get on with my life, but how can I close a book I don’t understand?” Jan says of his struggle to come to terms with his daughter’s unsolved murder.

In the same month Fred turns to the United Nations Human Rights Commission in an attempt to obtain damages for his prosecution. The commission turned down his application.

6 December 2013

The NDPP lets Jan know that they won’t reopen the case against Fred.

Silentscope - So, no one Suspected the Parents, and a body was found at the Scene. No Cadaver odour was planted.
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Post by Bird131 07.11.21 21:08

Inge's body was found in her Shiraz apartment no. 21. She had been murdered elsewhere. Fred was rightfully acquitted of the murder and th case was closed (instead of hunting down the killers). Years later in 2014, my investigation commenced. I discovered new suspects and new evidence which I brought to the attention of the proper authorities. The parents are amongst the new suspects. The unsolved murder is being re-investigated by the police in Cape Town.
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Post by Bird131 07.11.21 21:12

The murder of Inge and the disappearance of Madeleine are obviously not identical. They share a number of similarities.
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Post by Jill Havern 07.11.21 21:30

Here's a little bit of background information about Bird131/Alan (with his permission) including his 20 year service in the South African police before private investigation.

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Post by Silentscope 07.11.21 21:58

I would be interested to know where the PJ would have gotten the Cadaver odour to contaminate all those items, along with the vestiges which apparently had an 88% match to the missing white female in question?


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Post by Jill Havern 07.11.21 22:17

I don't think Alan is suggesting it's the PJ - he said a 'team of experts'..and it's the British who's covering it up.

But I still don't know why the 'team of experts' would do that...perhaps Alan can further his theory?

But the McCanns sure got over it all pretty quickly, whatever it was that happened...

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Post by Bird131 08.11.21 3:52

The arrival of RM so soon in PdL tells us that help was sent asap. Behind the scenes, heads would have been put together to find the best way to protect those in the holiday town and to contain the situation.
The team I'm referring to would have been two or three persons. The tools they required would not have presented any problem to obtain and transport safely.
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Post by Silentscope 08.11.21 12:37

I do not see how a British led ‘Team of Experts’ could satisfy their requirements to cover something up by ADDING Evidence pointing to a Dead body having been in the Area where a LIVE ABDUCTION was supposed to have taken place?

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Post by PeterMac 08.11.21 13:55

That threw me as well. 
That scenario would SET UP the McCanns even more than the existing evidence does.
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Post by Silentscope 08.11.21 14:30

Would Murat have been in such a hurry to get to PDL and help if he knew in advance he was to become the first ‘Prime Suspect’?

Why would the ‘Expert team’ not ERASE all traces so that there was no Evidence left with which to counter the Abduction theory?

Ik vind het Oongelooflijk.
I find it unbelievable.
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Post by Bird131 08.11.21 14:53

It didn't take the Portuguese police long to realise that the McCanns story about the 'abduction' was an absolute lie ... so, if their story was fabricated, WHY .. and WHERE was Madeleine? We know now that she died days earlier.
At the time and a week or three later, the McCanns were still at a loss to provide a believable story to the Portuguese police. The eyes of the world were upon them and their friends who had all told the same lie ... in fact, the entire group were suspects. They were all obviously lying about a missing 4-year old child, at the same time being unable to change their statements which were riddled with discrepancies.
That gave the Portuguese police the right to properly investigate the entire group, their cellphone records, banking transactions, photographs taken etc. Imagine for a minute what that would have exposed!
By narrowing the investigation down to two persons, the rest of the group would be "off the hook" and the spotlight would focus solely on Apartment 5A and its occupants. The cadaver and blood 'evidence' did the trick. It was enough to convince the Portuguese police that they needed to look no further!
By then the British Police had all but taken the lead in the investigation. Was the forensic evidence gathered in Apartment 5A sent to an "independent" laboratory?
No ... the British authorities made sure they were in control of the 'results'. Did anything positive come from the blood found in Apartment 5A? The answer is a big NO!
So, did the introduction of the cadaver and blood in Apartment 5A and the Renault Scenic in any way hurt the McCanns? Another big NO!
In the end, who was made to look 'responsible' for Madeline not being found and the investigation botched? Not the McCanns or the helpful British authorities, but the Portuguese police and authorities.
Did the adding of the cadaver and blood do the trick? Yes ...
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Post by Silentscope 08.11.21 15:51

If the ‘Expert team’ were there with orders to help the McCanns by planting such Evidence as you describe, and they would have been made aware by their ‘Helpers’ of the Operation.

Why would they then clean the Living room wall, wash the Curtains, and move the Sofa back up against the Wall?

Why leave the Trunk open to Air on the Villa driveway, wash and beat the Carpet in the Vehicle in an attempt to remove ‘a bad smell’?

Indicating that they DID NOT WANT it to be found?

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Post by Verdi 08.11.21 15:53

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What is your investigative theorizing based on?

This thread so far is like reading the PJ files interspersed with extracts from madeleine by KATE MCCANN and a variety of other dubious sources of information. The red herring theory you present (more aptly named 'The Sea Bass' theory to fit with your planted 'Eau de Cadaver' theory) reads more like a Philip Marlow crime novel than a reasoned opinion of a major crime.

As a matter of interest - during your career with the police and after as a private dick, did you have any dealings with he of the South African all-weather all-terrain patented heavy duty industrial sludge gulper slash body detector?

Your commentary seems to be very confused - at least to me, whatever, it is factually incorrect in many places. For a start, the witness statements of the McCanns and their holiday group taken on 4th/5th and 10th/11th May 2007 (the second round of interviews excluded some of the group), couldn't reasonably be said to be contradictory or 'riddled with discrepancies'. That came much later when the group, excluding Gerry and Kate McCann, were interviewed in April 2008, initiated at the request of the McCanns themselves.

As the Portuguese themselves had questions to ask of the group, they were invited to attend the rogatory interviews - although that proved to be a fiasco in it's own right.

No, the British authorities didn't or don't hold the full deck of cards - that remains intact in Portugal under the guise of the investigation documentation! That information is being totally ignored by the British authorities because it suits their agenda to dismiss facts and evidence in favour of fabrication and absence of evidence.

How they've got the audacity to do that is a complete mystery to me - it flies in the face everything considered legally and morally reasonable let alone acceptable.

Very audacious theorizing on your part. It's hard to address individual points because you have covered many months of investigation in a few paragraphs - for the most part your own story-line.

Don't stop, I'm sure all will be revealed given time ....

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Post by crusader 08.11.21 16:03

Not sure what to think of this scenario, or where Robert Murat fits in.


The focus is on 5a and the car which all points to the McCann's, the McCann's moved out of 5a and after spending the night at the Payne's apartment, moved into 4g where they stayed for a few weeks with all their belongings.


Eddie inspected 4g and found nothing, yet when the McCann's moved to the villa, Eddie signalled clothes and cuddle cat.


It would be interesting to know why the car was not inspected by Eddie at the villa and who drove the McCann's car to the inspection site.
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Post by crusader 08.11.21 16:26

Just to add to the above ^^^ if the "fixers" were splashing " Au de Cadaverine" about, why didn't they splash some in 4g?
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Post by Bird131 08.11.21 16:56

I decided to put my "Red Herring Theory" out there because if that's what really happened, it was brilliant. I could have spent another 6 months playing catch-up on related articles to get all my facts right, but just don't have the time.
Clearly no one ever spared a thought as to whether any fabrication of 'evidence' ever took place in Apartment 5A, and that's what concerned me most. I'm pleased just to have created an awareness to the possibility and by getting responses (positive and negative), from Silentscope, Verdi and others.
If my theory is completley wrong, that's fine. If it later emerges as remotely correct, then I will be happy to share my thoughts on what probably happened to Madeleine's body and more.
Until then, thanks ... I've had my say for now.
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Post by crusader 08.11.21 17:56

It's a good a theory as any [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] and plausible. Stick around and we can debate what happened to Madeleine's body.

Only by talking and posting ideas will we be any nearer to what happened.

Nobody is 100 per cent sure of what happened to Madeleine, one day all will be revealed, I hope.
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Post by Bird131 08.11.21 18:31

Thanks 'crusader', there's nothing impossible regarding my theory. Often it is the least expected underhand plan or strategy that works the best. I've seen exactly that in my latest murder investigation. With so many persons involved in this cover-up, the truth will emerge. On that day, we can all look back and compare notes.
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Post by Jill Havern 08.11.21 19:01

Due to the tone of some comments on this thread directed at a police officer of 20 years who solved the murder of a young lady (amongst other crimes no doubt), Alan is going to continue to advance his theory with me via email.

Whilst I am yet to be convinced about the 'planting of evidence' scenario I, for one, am willing to listen to him.

PeterMac, our other seasoned police officer, has always told us to keep an open mind and not to shut down debate...you never know what new piece of information might turn up.

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Post by crusader 08.11.21 19:15

I'm glad the theory will be ongoing, it can't do any harm and may just lead somewhere.
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Post by Guest 08.11.21 19:15

Planting evidence hadn't occurred to me, in the case of Madeleine. There are so many people involved - would the 'planters' be from the long list of people we know about, or people we haven't yet discovered? Also, one of the main suspects doesn't mind 'people purporting theories' let's hope he has read this one.
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Post by Jill Havern 08.11.21 19:34

Alan, if you would stay maybe you could tell us more about your investigation with Inge and all the things you uncovered in that case. 

It might help us understand your train of thought about the Maddie case.

Otherwise, please email me.

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Post by crusader 08.11.21 21:38

Murat supposedly came back to see Sergay Malinka about his Romigen website that never saw the light of day.

Murat was Trying to start an estate agency and Malinka was the computer expert. 

Now Murat is the computer expert and Malinka is the estate agent.

They have done a complete role reversal.
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