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.................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... Martin Brunt: "Scotland Yard believes it has unearthed enough clues to justify the Portuguese authorities re-opening their investigation, which was abandoned 15 months after Madeleine vanished."....Kate McCann: "What we need is for the Portuguese police to reopen the case. That is crucial."...Gonçalo Amaral: "For the McCanns to ask for the process to be reopened, all it would take is a letter to the prosecutor...it costs them nothing, just the stamp on the letter."....The McCann couple or their Tapas friends could force the reopening of the process if they would do the reconstruction....In 2007 British Ambassador Alexander W. Ellis admitted that the British Police had developed evidence against Kate and Gerry McCann.....Assistant Chief Constable for Leicestershire police: “While one or both of the McCanns may be innocent there is no clear evidence that eliminates them from involvement in Madeleine’s disappearance.”....Martin Brunt, Crime Correspondent: "The crucial part of the evidence appears to be a complete match of Madeleine's DNA in the boot of the hire car"...Inspector Ricardo Paiva: "It was Scotland Yard who first thought it could be a murder case."......British criminal profiler NPIA, Lee Rainbow: "Madeleine's father was the last one to see her alive. The family is a lead that should be followed. Contradictions in Gerald McCann's statements might lead us to suspect a homicide."...Francisco Moita Flores: "Scotland Yard has made another two million pounds available to search for Maddie McCann"....Gonçalo Amaral: "Elements from the Scotland Yard have been working with an investigative PJ team from Oporto, and what is known is that the “affair” is not going well for the McCanns.".....Scotland Yard dismisses work done by the private agency “Método” 3 hired by the McCann couple....Martin Grime: "Not all the alert signals have been investigated by the appropriate agencies in order to provide forensic comparations, in spite of indications to the contrary.".....Kate McCann: "I think I could probably forgive the abductor."

.....................................................................................................................................Martin Brunt: "There are 30 Met officers - the equivalent of a murder squad - working on the review and I'm told that a senior officer is having to give regular spending updates to the Home Office which is funding an operation that will cost several million and last many months."....Gonçalo Amaral: "The English can always present the conclusions to which they themselves arrived in 2007. Because they know, they have the evidence of what happened - they don't need to investigate anything. All this is now a mere 'show off'.....Manuel Catriano: "This story did not begin in the Ocean Club, but in London where the 'official truth' was conspired and established: an English girl was kidnapped in the Algarve."....Gonçalo Amaral: "Dr Katherina Gaspar witnesses a scene with David Payne and Gerry McCann which flabbergasts her and makes her fear for the safety of her daughter and the other children"....Gonçalo Amaral: " I have understood their game. The McCanns knew that I was going to catch them. So the game is always the same. We want to catch them, they want to escape, and that's it. Sometimes the bandits win, sometimes the policemen do."....Gonçalo Amaral: "Under the old Penal Process, how do I ask Kate: "Are you lying when you say you didn't touch the window? As a matter of fact, it was you who opened the window. We have material evidence of that. A question like this forces the constitution of arguido...".....Tony Bennett: "The Madeleine Foundation has now sent a 32-page letter and a bundle of supporting evidence to the Scotland Yard 'Maddie Case' Review Team".............Gonçalo Amaral: "The little girl died in the apartment. Everything is in the book, which is faithful to the investigation until September: it reflects the understanding of the Portuguese and the English police and of the Public Ministry. For all of us until then the concealment of the cadaver, the simulation of abduction and the exposure or abandonment were proved."...Gonçalo Amaral: "For the McCanns to ask for the process to be reopened, all it would take is a letter to the prosecutor...it costs them nothing, just the stamp on the letter."...Gonçalo Amaral: "The investigation will be concluded, it will be reopened and it will be taken to an end; and justice will be made, that is all that we want."...Gonçalo Amaral: "There are hundreds of indications, clues regarding a certain event; and it is that event that some people do not accept and want to conceal."...Kate Healy was not immediately made an arguida, but merely interviewed voluntarily as a witness. Only after her interview was she made an arguida, that is, after she was confronted with concrete facts that might lead to her incrimination."...Gonçalo Amaral: "If the McCanns admit that their daughter is dead, they can no longer collect money from the Maddie fund, and that's a lot of money, over one million pounds. That's why they say that the girl was abducted."...Kate McCann: "This pair (Carter Ruck lawyers) continue to do a vast amount of work for us, without payment, most of it quietly behind the scenes."...Gonçalo Amaral: "Nowadays I have no doubts left, the archival for various reasons, was mainly due to political pressures made by the English - I have no doubts about that."...Gonçalo Amaral: "I remind you that they demanded the archiving of the process, in 2008, when they were arguidos, merely to defend their image. They are not interested in the reopening of the process or of the investigation"...Gonçalo Amaral: "It's too big and too serious a burden to be concealed by so many people for their entire lives."...Gonçalo Amaral: "Let's remember it is totally logical to find Madeleine's DNA in the home, but absolutely not in a car rented more than twenty days after her disappearance."...Tony Bennett: "The question is: exactly what is it about Madeleine's disappearance that caused such a massive level of government activity, including MI5 and secret service type groups like Control Risks Group, to become involved, and so quickly and in such large numbers? Was it to help find a missing child? Or to locate an abductor?...Martin Grime: "My professional opinion as regards to the EVRD's alert indications is that it is suggestive that this is 'cadaver scent' contaminant."...Gonçalo Amaral: "If the body had been buried there would have been mummification. The fact that there were fluids points to refrigeration."...Dr Vernon Coleman: "Would you hire the McCanns as babysitters?"...Gonçalo Amaral: "there were gestures and words indicating the existence of a child molester within that group of people"...Jose Barra da Costa, PJ: "There are people who guarantee that this is a couple who practice 'swinging' - i.e. sexual relationships between couples and then changing partners, and that this practice would allow in this type of..."...Justine McGuiness: "We were a bit naughty because we did have messages coming out of the police station which we weren't supposed to..."...C443 J.N. HUGHES: Background Information- Gerald McCANN - A search of the local section of the child abuse shows a registration number 19309 in the CATS system....Dr Katherina Gaspar: "I remember Dave telling Gerry something like “she”, referring to Madeleine, “would do this”.. While he mentioned the word 'this', David was doing the action of sucking one of his fingers, pushing it in and out of his mouth, while with his other hand he was doing a circle around his nipple. I remember being shocked by that."...Sofia Leal: “My husband and I have never abandoned our daughters, or allowed paedophiles in our circle of friends. I am shocked that a couple who affirm to be religious is seeking out to destroy our family”...Gerry McCann: "There's no evidence that Madeleine is dead and there's no evidence to implicate us in her death"...

................................................................................................................................................................................................ Gerry McCann: "It is something we raised at Leveson that Madeleine and her safety is often treated with complete contempt"....Carlos Anjos, president of ASFIC/PJ: “What the McCanns did was...they've put on their internet page “We asked the authorities”, but they didn't, because to ask means to send a request to the Prosecutor's Office or to the Judiaciary Police, and that didn't happen. I think what we have here it's some sort of deception.”....................................................   

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Re: IFLG and PACT

Post  Advocatus on Sun Jan 15, 2012 6:23 pm

Stewie wrote:Seems the IFLG sent a solicitor Richard Jones to portugal for some reason,even though they dealt with family abduction not stranger abduction:

McCann family to launch fighting fund
By Nick Britten and Richard Edwards12:01AM BST 15 May 2007
A fighting fund will be launched by the McCann family and could be used to finance private detectives to join the hunt.
The family has instructed one of the country's leading legal specialists on child abduction to help them run the foundation, which is expected to be launched tomorrow.
Michael Nicholls QC was head of the Lord Chancellor's Child Abduction Unit for five years and is, among other things, a member of the Family Justice Council's International Family Law Committee.

Mr Nicholls was instructed by the McCanns' solicitors, The International Family Law Group, who have sent their solicitor Richard Jones to Portugal to be with them

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1551645/McCann-family-to-launch-fighting-fund.html

Looking at the archives for the IFLG website, Richard jones is on the first archived instance (21 June 2007) but is no longer there on the next archived instance (22 Aug 2007). Also seems he was a lawyer in leicester:


Richard Jones

Senior Family Law Executive
Richard Jones is a Senior Family Law Executive at iFLG, having come to London in May 2006 from a leading law firm in Leicester. For the past 15 years he has specialised in International Parental Child abduction cases both under the Hague Convention and with complex non-Hague cases where there are no international treaties.
http://web.archive.org/web/20070621094925/http://www.iflg.uk.com/en/who-we-are/



Nice find Stewie! having come to London in May 2006 from a leading law firm in ***Leicester.***

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Re: IFLG and PACT

Post  Advocatus on Sun Jan 15, 2012 6:26 pm

tigger wrote:
Stewie wrote:Seems the IFLG sent a solicitor Richard Jones to portugal for some reason,even though they dealt with family abduction not stranger abduction:

McCann family to launch fighting fund
By Nick Britten and Richard Edwards12:01AM BST 15 May 2007
A fighting fund will be launched by the McCann family and could be used to finance private detectives to join the hunt.
The family has instructed one of the country's leading legal specialists on child abduction to help them run the foundation, which is expected to be launched tomorrow.
Michael Nicholls QC was head of the Lord Chancellor's Child Abduction Unit for five years and is, among other things, a member of the Family Justice Council's International Family Law Committee.

Mr Nicholls was instructed by the McCanns' solicitors, The International Family Law Group, who have sent their solicitor Richard Jones to Portugal to be with them

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1551645/McCann-family-to-launch-fighting-fund.html

Looking at the archives for the IFLG website, Richard jones is on the first archived instance (21 June 2007) but is no longer there on the next archived instance (22 Aug 2007). Also seems he was a lawyer in leicester:


Richard Jones

Senior Family Law Executive
Richard Jones is a Senior Family Law Executive at iFLG, having come to London in May 2006 from a leading law firm in Leicester. For the past 15 years he has specialised in International Parental Child abduction cases both under the Hague Convention and with complex non-Hague cases where there are no international treaties.
http://web.archive.org/web/20070621094925/http://www.iflg.uk.com/en/who-we-are/


O, B.H.! Stewie, now we are really coining it. Richard Jones, Leicester, abduction. I've felt all along that 2006 was a pivotal year and you've just proved it. These are in no way coincidences. So IFLG helped set up the 'fighting fund' , legalized their conduct and sent them a real live solicitor to hold their hands. And the IFLG was at most four months old. All we need now is an earlier link with Richard Jones and the McCanns, probably in Leicester?
And how and who contacted this group - surely, I saw that an International Family Law Committee also exists, wouldn't that have been enough to deal with the subject?
Looks as if IFLG was notified only marginally later than Sky news and the police.



All we need now is an earlier link with Richard Jones and the McCanns, probably in Leicester?
Check the Leicester Masonic Lodge members, I wonder if Jones is on the square, like almost everyone else in this case...

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Re: IFLG and PACT

Post  Advocatus on Sun Jan 15, 2012 6:29 pm

Stewie wrote:
tigger wrote:

O, B.H.! Stewie, now we are really coining it. Richard Jones, Leicester, abduction. I've felt all along that 2006 was a pivotal year and you've just proved it. These are in no way coincidences. So IFLG helped set up the 'fighting fund' , legalized their conduct and sent them a real live solicitor to hold their hands. And the IFLG was at most four months old. All we need now is an earlier link with Richard Jones and the McCanns, probably in Leicester?
And how and who contacted this group - surely, I saw that an International Family Law Committee also exists, wouldn't that have been enough to deal with the subject?
Looks as if IFLG was notified only marginally later than Sky news and the police.


As soon as I saw his name and Leicester I thought I bet he was the one to go over to PDL - then found the newspaper naming him as their lawyer...

The IFLG is even younger - it launched 31 March 2007... so 6 weeks or so old by the time of the events... and by 22 August Richard Jones is no longer with them... didn't stay very long...


The International Family Law Group launches at its premises in Covent Garden, London

The International Family Law Group (iFLG) launches at its premises in Covent Garden, London. We are a new specialist law firm providing services to the international community as well as for purely national clients. We have a special contract with the Legal Services Commission for child abduction work and are regularly instructed by the UK Government. We act for international families, ex pats and others in respect of financial implications of relationship breakdown including forum shopping and international enforcement of orders. We receive instructions from foreign lawyers and, as accredited specialists, act for clients of other law firms seeking their specialist experience.

See our attached media release and contact us for more details

Posted on 31 March, 2007 by David Hodson



and by 22 August Richard Jones is no longer with them... didn't stay very long...
Is that a case of, 'mission accomplished'??? the appeal fund LIMITED board is also a bit of a merry go round, in fact lots of faces don't last too long, perhaps when they learn too much, or the penny drops - but like all the consular staff who didn't believe the TM story, all transferred to timbuktu...

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Re: IFLG and PACT

Post  Stewie on Sun Jan 15, 2012 7:27 pm

He's now at Saunders law firm in london.... there is a cv but doesn't really go into detail about his prior work but does mention his work for the Mccann's..

http://www.saunders.co.uk/downloads/our-people/richard_jones-web-profile.pdf

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Post  tigger on Sun Jan 15, 2012 7:37 pm

The International Family Law Group (iFLG) launches at its premises in Covent Garden, London. We are a new specialist law firm providing services to the international community as well as for purely national clients. We have a special contract with the Legal Services Commission for child abduction work and are regularly instructed by the UK Government. We act for international families, ex pats and others in respect of financial implications of relationship breakdown including forum shopping and international enforcement of orders. We receive instructions from foreign lawyers and, as accredited specialists, act for clients of other law firms seeking their specialist experience.

This is their blurb starting off on the 31st March (one day later would have been more fitting) .
So if I got this right: we are a NEW etc. but we are already - five minutes into our enterprise - regularly instructed by the UK Government.

And what is 'forum shopping?' no idea.

Altogether a strong smell of sea bass - looking at Mr. Jones, he certainly looks like he's on the square.

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Forum shopping

Post  No Fate Worse Than De'Ath on Sun Jan 15, 2012 7:46 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forum_shopping

Did Kate say that the firm was recommended to her by a colleague of Gerry's? It could just be a case of a friend putting in a word to help out someone who was involved in a new business.

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Post  tigger on Sun Jan 15, 2012 7:54 pm

Jean wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forum_shopping

Did Kate say that the firm was recommended to her by a colleague of Gerry's? It could just be a case of a friend putting in a word to help out someone who was involved in a new business.


Interesting link, so I presume that the firm will do the forum shopping for you so your case will be heard by the court mostly likely to give you what you want.

Even if the firm was recommended to her by Gerry's colleague, it's too coincidental that they just got going six weeks earlier. They could also not be taking regular instruction from the UK government.

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Post  doug on Tue Jan 17, 2012 2:25 pm

PeterMac wrote:Within a day or so of the 'event' the International Family Law Group (IFLG) were involved and had sent out a representative.
Subsequently the McCanns got into the organisation Parents and Abducted Children Together, (PACT)

Both agencies talks about 'abducted children', but not in the sense of abduction by stranger, pae****, or anyone other than the natural father/mother who happens to live somethere else and usually outside the jurisdiction of the British Courts.

IFLG
"We resolve the financial aspects of relationship breakdown for all families. This includes expertise in high net worth individuals with global and complex assets. We also look after the distinctive aspects of international families and expatriates, working closely with many lawyers abroad.

Our work includes international child abduction as well as all other national and international disputes involving children.

We provide a full range of alternative dispute resolution services including a specialist mediation service. This includes both high conflict situations involving cross-border issues with children and complex financial circumstances. Our mediators have a wide range of experience and knowledge in dealing with relationship breakdown which extends across international borders. They understand the difficulties faced by parents wishing to live in different countries and cover Hague and non-Hague child abduction, international contact and child relocation dispute."

PACT
"Parental child abduction across borders

As a pioneer in this field, PACT has played a significant role in raising awareness of international parental child abduction and how it affects children. We have, for example, lobbied the House of Commons, the US Congress and EU institutions. PACT has produced a documentary which has been distributed worldwide. Although we are not a helpline, our website offers advice on steps for parents to take if their child has been abducted to a Hague Convention country. "

Again, just to bash it home, the taking of a child by one parent from the custody of the other parent, so that the child can live as part of the first parent's family.
NOT the unlawful removal of a child by someone outside the family.

It was reported that Katey first said words along the lines "They've taken her".
Other members of the group were reported to have said words along the lines 'We knew something might happen, but not this.'
And for the first few days both Katey and Gerry used the expression "...when IT happened". Does this imply that there was previous knowledge of an outcome ?
Some of these statements have been edited or denied subsequently.
Both parents insist Madeleine is alive and well, unharmed, and at one point even insisted she was living with a couple.

Was this a strategy which went wrong, and was subsequently dropped, perhaps on legal advice, in favour of the predatory Pae****, who had been watching for some time, taking notes (!) and so on ?
The problem with the change is that the insisting on Madeleine's safety canot be transferred from the first scenario to the second.

IIRC the "We knew something might happen, but not this" refers to a comment made by one of the T7 after the neglectors were made aguidos.
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Post  jd on Tue Jan 17, 2012 2:31 pm

Maybe this is why the PJ ask Kate if she was wanting to put Madeleine into the care of relatives? and why Madeline was made a ward of court only weeks after her disappearance. A very strange thing to do and at a time when they were allegedly desperate to get her back, the McCanns literally 'gave her away!

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Post  tigger on Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:58 pm

This is a very old memory, but didn't the McCanns take a trip to Canada with the twins? Say October/November 2007. Also to visit the nanny they'd employed in Rothley.
I also seem to remember something about this being the last occasion for them to take (or to be allowed to) the twins out of the UK.
If the 'ward of court' registration is around the same time, it's beginning to look as if the social services did something useful. As far as I know, they've not been out of the country with the twins since.

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