Re: British police believe they spoke to her attacker

by Guest 28.04.16 16:05

It looks to me that SY are using these 'burglar fantasies' as a get out clause. They will announce that although they have some evidence it may not stand up to the Portuguese legal system and it would be up to them to bring the actual charges not SY. Abuction nothing to do with any British citizen, job done case closed.

by Liz Eagles 28.04.16 16:13

HKP wrote:It looks to me that SY are using these 'burglar fantasies' as a get out clause. They will announce that although they have some evidence it may not stand up to the Portuguese legal system and it would be up to them to bring the actual charges not SY. Abuction nothing to do with any British citizen, job done case closed.

Add to this that SY will undoubtedly say the case is still open but scaled back/shelved/constantly monitored and actively seeking new evidence.

Add also to this that the Portuguese Police will probably not release files as is their norm - you don't get the head of the Crown Prosecution Service on a jaunt to Portugal for nothing!

by Estelle 28.04.16 17:06

Now the Sun has a more comprehensive version.
Revealed: Brit cops 'know who snatched Maddie' - and think they have questioned him already
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/7113465/Revealed-Brit-cops-know-who-snatched-Maddieand-think-they-have-questioned-him-already.html?CMP=spklr-_-Editorial-_-FBPAGE-_-TheSun-thesun-_-20160428-_-News-_-450841588-_-Imageandlink

by Guest 28.04.16 17:17

Estelle wrote:Now the Sun has a more comprehensive version.
Revealed: Brit cops 'know who snatched Maddie' - and think they have questioned him already
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/7113465/Revealed-Brit-cops-know-who-snatched-Maddieand-think-they-have-questioned-him-already.html?CMP=spklr-_-Editorial-_-FBPAGE-_-TheSun-thesun-_-20160428-_-News-_-450841588-_-Imageandlink

No evidence for any of this.

This is libelous.

by NickE 28.04.16 17:49

One of this guy was a drug addict and there was a £ 2,5mil reward and he did not nail this driver for £ 2,5mil and he have not told anyone for 9 years not even when he was flying high?
And it´s very unlikely that a young boy can stay quiet for 9 years if he was involved in a crime like this.

Bollocks.

by noddy100 28.04.16 17:58

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3564019/Madeleine-McCann-kidnapped-botched-burglary-gang-thieves-British-police-quizzed-blocked-questioning-again.html

by Doug D 28.04.16 18:27

‘ It's claimed they have been identified as suspects by British police, but officers are being blocked from accessing them by Portuguese cops who say no new evidence has been brought forward.

An officer told the paper: 'It has dogged the investigation all the way through and it's happening again.

'If we can't question the three suspects again the trail goes cold and the case will be shelved.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3564019/Madeleine-McCann-kidnapped-botched-burglary-gang-thieves-British-police-quizzed-blocked-questioning-again.html

Scotland Yard refused to discuss the final line of inquiry for operational purposes.

A spokesman said: "There is no comment while there is an on-going investigation."

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/7113465/Revealed-Brit-cops-know-who-snatched-Maddieand-think-they-have-questioned-him-already.html?CMP=spklr-_-Editorial-_-FBPAGE-_-TheSun-thesun-_-20160428-_-News-_-450841588-_-Imageandlink

The End.

But MSM, at least get you’re acts together ffs.

(And of course it’s the fault of the bloody Portuguese. It would be wouldn’t it.
And after they had been working so well together!)

by Guest 28.04.16 18:32

BlueBag wrote:
Estelle wrote:Now the Sun has a more comprehensive version.
Revealed: Brit cops 'know who snatched Maddie' - and think they have questioned him already
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/7113465/Revealed-Brit-cops-know-who-snatched-Maddieand-think-they-have-questioned-him-already.html?CMP=spklr-_-Editorial-_-FBPAGE-_-TheSun-thesun-_-20160428-_-News-_-450841588-_-Imageandlink
No evidence for any of this.

This is libelous.

If they know who snatched her, they would KNOW if they had spoken to him or them already. Total rubbish and a convenient story to wrap up the past 9 years.

by Guest 28.04.16 18:34

It's claimed they have been identified as suspects by British police, but officers are being blocked from accessing them by Portuguese cops who say no new evidence has been brought forward.

This is outrageous.

by whodunit 28.04.16 18:39

BlueBag wrote:
It's claimed they have been identified as suspects by British police, but officers are being blocked from accessing them by Portuguese cops who say no new evidence has been brought forward.

This is outrageous.

It is. So is this, considering how the McCanns phone records were treated, or not:

"They are linked by a series of phone calls they made to each other near the McCanns’ apartment around the time she vanished."

So lets dig into the phone records of 3 people despite no fingerprints, hairs, fibers, or DNA--- NO evidence of a intrusion nor burglary whatsoever much less the involvement of these 3 in the non-existent burglary where 'nothing of value was taken', but treat the McCanns with kid gloves? It beggars belief.

by MayMuse 28.04.16 18:44

BlueBag wrote:
It's claimed they have been identified as suspects by British police, but officers are being blocked from accessing them by Portuguese cops who say no new evidence has been brought forward.

This is outrageous.

More than outrageous and the implication that the PJ have 'blocked the process before!
MR. Gonzalas (the supposed criminologist) has stated that the window was opened from the outside! This is not evidence which was concluded in the files.

Just another 'implanted' story since Amarals win! If the British police have had this info for nearly 3 years, what have they been doing with it...my thoughts they were waiting to see the outcome of the trial... And there you have it in all its glorified 'rubbish'?

by whodunit 28.04.16 18:47

The PJ need to hire a British spokesman to answer some of the crap that gets spewed unchallenged!!

by NickE 28.04.16 19:46

Doug D wrote:‘ It's claimed they have been identified as suspects by British police, but officers are being blocked from accessing them by Portuguese cops who say no new evidence has been brought forward.

An officer told the paper: 'It has dogged the investigation all the way through and it's happening again.

'If we can't question the three suspects again the trail goes cold and the case will be shelved.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3564019/Madeleine-McCann-kidnapped-botched-burglary-gang-thieves-British-police-quizzed-blocked-questioning-again.html

Scotland Yard refused to discuss the final line of inquiry for operational purposes.

A spokesman said: "There is no comment while there is an on-going investigation."

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/7113465/Revealed-Brit-cops-know-who-snatched-Maddieand-think-they-have-questioned-him-already.html?CMP=spklr-_-Editorial-_-FBPAGE-_-TheSun-thesun-_-20160428-_-News-_-450841588-_-Imageandlink

The End.

But MSM, at least get you’re acts together ffs.

(And of course it’s the fault of the bloody Portuguese. It would be wouldn’t it.
And after they had been working so well together!)

Is SY trying to frame these guys without evidence?

Desperation.

by Verdi 28.04.16 19:57

coati mundi wrote:Haven't posted in quite a while, but wanted to say that there is no way any patsy (or patsies) will be presented in a court for trial. That would necessitate the McCanns and the Tapas 7 giving evidence. Any half decent advocate would tear them to pieces on their version of events for that night. If they chose not to appear, then the case would collapse.

The prosecution would have to establish the "facts" of what happened not only that night but also on preceding days. It's not going to happen because if it were done in order to clear the McCanns, those behind it would be well aware that they and their friends would be cross examined "up hill and down dale" as barristers I have worked with used to say.

Not going to happen - it's just spin.

By the way, congratulations to Snr Amaral.

No need for a Patsy is there - even a dead one, much simpler for Operation Grange to shelve the case as unsolved. What have they got to lose - certainly not a reputation, they lost that circa. 2011.

There are those that think the Metropolitan Police, the government or whoever else embroiled in this saga, are going to be forced to eventually confess their sins. I can't agree - since when has any publicly owned entity ever EVER (sorry for shouting) stood by their obligations to serve the public. You know, that awkward lot that pay their wages!

by plebgate 28.04.16 19:58

NickE wrote:
Doug D wrote:‘ It's claimed they have been identified as suspects by British police, but officers are being blocked from accessing them by Portuguese cops who say no new evidence has been brought forward.

An officer told the paper: 'It has dogged the investigation all the way through and it's happening again.

'If we can't question the three suspects again the trail goes cold and the case will be shelved.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3564019/Madeleine-McCann-kidnapped-botched-burglary-gang-thieves-British-police-quizzed-blocked-questioning-again.html

Scotland Yard refused to discuss the final line of inquiry for operational purposes.

A spokesman said: "There is no comment while there is an on-going investigation."

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/7113465/Revealed-Brit-cops-know-who-snatched-Maddieand-think-they-have-questioned-him-already.html?CMP=spklr-_-Editorial-_-FBPAGE-_-TheSun-thesun-_-20160428-_-News-_-450841588-_-Imageandlink

The End.

But MSM, at least get you’re acts together ffs.

(And of course it’s the fault of the bloody Portuguese. It would be wouldn’t it.
And after they had been working so well together!)
Is SY trying to frame these guys without evidence?

Desperation.

Ref green highlighting (mine) above

So an officer told them did they? So much for the officers have to sign the Offical Secrets Act.

Now we are expected to believe that officers think that Maddie was abducted because she interupted a burglary.

If that is the case, why haven't her parents been hauled in and questioned as to why they left Maddie and her siblings in such a vulnerable and defenceless position?

PAH

by Verdi 28.04.16 20:04

HKP wrote:It looks to me that SY are using these 'burglar fantasies' as a get out clause. They will announce that although they have some evidence it may not stand up to the Portuguese legal system and it would be up to them to bring the actual charges not SY. Abuction nothing to do with any British citizen, job done case closed.

It's always been on the cards hasn't it? From the word go Sloperation Strange was fannying about looking for escaped burglars and surveying the land in quest of errant child molesters.

Predictable as dawn!

by pendragon2007 28.04.16 20:18

British police believe they spoke to her attacker - Page 3 Divers12

Is it just me or has someone else already mentioned this in a previous post and I've missed it? "Brit police believe they spoke to her attacker". When exactly did "abduction" theory morph into an "attacker"? Quite apart from the crap contained in the rest of this fabrication, I've never seen or heard any evidence suggesting Madeleine was attacked. I suspect the "Prince of PR" CM had a hand in this as "attacker" would sell more papers and grab more attention. Never let the truth get in the way of a good story sure applies here. Sad thing is CM I think I may be the first to notice - and hopefully the last. Still "attacker" and rest of this played out fairy tale make a great DIVERSION away from the truth. Wonder what we will get for tomorrows bedtime fairy tale????
Don't forget :- THE TRUTH IS STILL OUT THERE (The X Files).

by suzyjohnson 28.04.16 20:35

It'll look well if one, or all, of the three suspected burglars announces, yes we were in the vicinity and guess what we saw ........

by plebgate 29.04.16 0:02

I am very confused - so the police supposedly think that it could have been the burglars.

Is anyone able to tell me why Crimewatch was not shown in Pt. if they think Maddie could have been stolen by the burglars?

Why was it shown in UK and Germany only?

Truly confused here.

by suzyjohnson 29.04.16 0:19

plebgate wrote:I am very confused - so the police supposedly think that it could have been the burglars.

Three named burglars the police think might have taken Madeleine just before 10 pm.

And by coincidence, one man seen carrying a child who resembled Madeleine at just before 10 pm (who has never been identified)

So, where are the photographs of the suspects to compare to efits drawn up by the Smith family?

by Mirage 29.04.16 0:27

Perhaps Alison Saunders will make a statement and clear up why she was over in Lisbon June 2013. There were some leads OG wanted to follow up and so the review turned into an investigation (I use the latter word very loosely).

Didn't Burglar Bill and Burglar Betty have a baby son? He would have been a teenager by 2007. Perhaps the Met are really onto something after all.
spin

by jeanmonroe 29.04.16 1:59

Is SY trying to frame these guys without evidence?

Desperation.
-----------------------------

Was South Yorkshire Police trying to frame the Liverpool supporters without evidence?

Desperation!

by Bishop Brennan 29.04.16 3:41

BlueBag wrote:
It's claimed they have been identified as suspects by British police, but officers are being blocked from accessing them by Portuguese cops who say no new evidence has been brought forward.

This is outrageous.

To slur another police force to try and cover the rank incompetence and ineptitude of the MET's efforts is as outrageous as it is predictable. SY and the MSM are now in full "face-saving" mode. They appear to have settled on the preposterous 3 burglars story from 2014 as their whitewash of choice. Now they link it to a smearing of Amaral (more still to come) and overt criticism of the unhelpful PJ and we have the whitened end to this 4 year saga.

At least Amaral retained his reputation and his money. That was an intended part of the whitewash (that he lose all), but luckily the Appeal Courts have in two instances proved themselves honest and above the UK meddling that has been part of this case from the start. We can only hope that the Supreme Court also remains out of their reach and that Amaral can then continue his life in some kind of peace.

by NickE 29.04.16 7:04

@Adiren_M
The "burglars" that OG interrogated last year had been questioned in 2007, and discarded because they had alibis...
#McCann

by skyrocket 29.04.16 8:27

Here's a post from Joana Morais from July 2014, regarding the 3 (plus Malinka):

http://joana-morais.blogspot.co.uk/2014/07/phone-calls-and-hairs-frame-suspects.html

The comments in 2014 mirror what has been concluded here.

Can't find photos - there's one circulating of Tiago da Silva (maintenance at the OC) which has been mis-labelled as Jose Carlos da Silva in places. Re-iterates the importance of extreme caution when posting photos as this man (Tiago) does have a passing resemblance to Smithman but was questioned as a WITNESS.

Interesting to note that in 2007, one of the 3 men now being touted as the most likely culprits, Ricardo Rodrigues, was only 16 years old.

I know this isn't being taken seriously but noting the above comment re: the recent circulation of sightings of 3 persons entering the church, and discussion of cremated bodies etc, does anyone think that there might actually be some planning in all of this information being on the table at the same time? If anything were ever to turn up regarding the cremation/remains, who is the finger pointing at now? Perfect solution to OG wind up - 3 suspects with no money to defend themselves against wild accusations; not enough (or no) evidence to charge them with anything to do with MBM's disappearance; possible reason why the body has never been found; case closed........