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Post by NickE on Sat 14 Mar 2015 - 8:19

Translated with Google.

A British police team was today reunited with the Public Ministry and the Judicial Police, because of the Madeleine McCann case. The working meeting was to make a progress report to the investigation of the child's disappearance.

http://sicnoticias.sapo.pt/pais/2015-03-13-Policia-inglesa-reuniu-se-com-as-autoridades-portuguesas-sobre-o-caso-Maddie

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Re: "Meeting on the Maddie case between British police and Portuguese authorities"

Post by aiyoyo on Sat 14 Mar 2015 - 11:24

The article is dated 13 March, refering to the meeting as having taken place "today" (meaning on date meeting). But the video when opened, shows DCI Redwood and DCI Wall plus team walking together heading somewhere.....indicating ...not clear when this "meeting" took place.

Very ambiguous the article.

DCI Wall has been keeping very low profile.


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Re: "Meeting on the Maddie case between British police and Portuguese authorities"

Post by jeanmonroe on Sat 14 Mar 2015 - 11:33

"PROGRESS" report?

Should be very, very, 'quick' meeting then!

PJ: "have you re-interviewed the T9?"

SY: "NO, why would we?. Our ex boss, Supreme Dear Leader, DCI Mahogany, cleared them of all/any 'involvement' years ago"

PJ: "Cya"

eta: suppose the 'trip' serves a 'purpose' of 'sorts''........................'duty frees' all round!

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Re: "Meeting on the Maddie case between British police and Portuguese authorities"

Post by inspirespirit on Sat 14 Mar 2015 - 11:37

The police over in Portugal.... Must mean the Amaral v McCann case is coming to it's conclusion.   Weird how they always seem to end up over there when there's about to be a Court decision or Statement.

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Re: "Meeting on the Maddie case between British police and Portuguese authorities"

Post by jeanmonroe on Sat 14 Mar 2015 - 11:44

@inspirespirit wrote:The police over in Portugal.... Must mean the Amaral v McCann case is coming to it's conclusion.   Weird how they always seem to end up over there when there's about to be a Court decision or Statement.

Of COURSE!

Isn't there ALSO an McCann 'troll' 'inquest' due 'shortly'?

'visit' just in time for 'poor Kate' mother's day 'appearance' (tomorrow)

Quelle surprise?

Er, um, err,......NAHHHHHHHHHH!

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Post by HelenMeg on Sat 14 Mar 2015 - 11:49

@jeanmonroe wrote:"PROGRESS" report?

Should be very, very, 'quick' meeting then!

PJ: "have you re-interviewed the T9?"

SY: "NO, why would we?. Our ex boss, DCI Mahogany, cleared them of all/any 'involvement' years ago"

PJ: "Cya"

eta: suppose the 'trip' serves a 'purpose' of 'sorts''........................'duty frees' all round!
yes

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Re: "Meeting on the Maddie case between British police and Portuguese authorities"

Post by HelenMeg on Sat 14 Mar 2015 - 11:53

At the same time this could be encouraging. No fanfare from SY - just quietly reported in Portugal. A meeting to discuss progress - no antagonism... sounds good

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Post by jeanmonroe on Sat 14 Mar 2015 - 12:06

@HelenMeg wrote:At the same time this could be encouraging. No fanfare from SY - just quietly reported in Portugal. A meeting to discuss progress - no antagonism... sounds good

"calm" before the 'storm' more like!

This 'visit' probably with 'exclusive' pix from 'exclusiff pix' will, probably, be in the 'sundays' tomorrow.

Remind me, whose 'paper's' TURN is it to have the 'world exclusive' (tomorrow)

Sunday Mirror? (to 'distract' from their 'hacking'?)


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Re: "Meeting on the Maddie case between British police and Portuguese authorities"

Post by Doug D on Sat 14 Mar 2015 - 12:28

Good to see Pedro's still on the case in the 'comments'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: "Meeting on the Maddie case between British police and Portuguese authorities"

Post by jeanmonroe on Sat 14 Mar 2015 - 13:25

Child Sexual Exploitation Awareness Day - March 18

ACPO.

Jeeeez!

Mainly ALL 'recent' exposures, on child 'exploitation' have 'involved' POLICE OFFICERS, themselves!

'participating in or covering up'

I think we should have an 'Uncover a bent cop' Awareness Day!

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Re: "Meeting on the Maddie case between British police and Portuguese authorities"

Post by Gaggzy on Sat 14 Mar 2015 - 14:59

@jeanmonroe wrote:Child Sexual Exploitation Awareness Day - March 18

ACPO.

Jeeeez!

Mainly ALL 'recent' exposures, on child 'exploitation' have 'involved' POLICE OFFICERS, themselves!

'participating in or covering up'

I think we should have an 'Uncover a bent cop' Awareness Day!

Jeezuz, Jean. I nearly spilt my coffee all over my MacBook Pro while laughing at that one!  big grin  big grin

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Bent cop

Post by fz2 on Sat 14 Mar 2015 - 15:07

@jeanmonroe wrote:Child Sexual Exploitation Awareness Day - March 18

ACPO.

Jeeeez!

Mainly ALL 'recent' exposures, on child 'exploitation' have 'involved' POLICE OFFICERS, themselves!

'participating in or covering up'

I think we should have an 'Uncover a bent cop' Awareness Day!
I think we should have an 'Uncover a bent cop' Awareness Day!
A day would not be long enough, "month" may cover it tho.

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Re: "Meeting on the Maddie case between British police and Portuguese authorities"

Post by Nina on Sat 14 Mar 2015 - 15:22

@fz2 wrote:
@jeanmonroe wrote:Child Sexual Exploitation Awareness Day - March 18

ACPO.

Jeeeez!

Mainly ALL 'recent' exposures, on child 'exploitation' have 'involved' POLICE OFFICERS, themselves!

'participating in or covering up'

I think we should have an 'Uncover a bent cop' Awareness Day!
I think we should have an 'Uncover a bent cop' Awareness Day!
A day would not be long enough, "month" may cover it tho.
It is very concerning, just who can we trust with the safety of our children?

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Re: "Meeting on the Maddie case between British police and Portuguese authorities"

Post by NickE on Sat 14 Mar 2015 - 20:44

A working meeting with the Portuguese authorities to strengthen cooperation in searches. 


By Tania Laranjo 
"Hour and a half meeting. The stage was the Attorney General's Office; the protagonists, British and Portuguese authorities. The goal was the same as has already caused other such meetings. Strengthen the link between the authorities of both countries, cementing bonds that allow a joint investigation to clarify the Maddie case. The leader of the British police team, Nicola Wall, was one of attending the meeting. The side of the Judicial Police, the representation was taken by Pedro do Carmo magistrate, assistant national director. Also the attorney general district and the investigation of the holder which remains open in Faro County were present. 
It was also asked to participate a representative of the Attorney General of the English Republic and the British ambassador. This was the second meeting of Nicola Wall with the highest representatives of the process. 
The English provincial happened late last year to Andy Redwood, who retired from the Metropolitan Police Service. Nicola Wall transferred from the Homicide and Serious Crimes division to Grange operation, investigating the disappearance of British child, the May 3, 2007, the room where he slept with two twin brothers, younger, in an apartment of a tourist village, in Praia da Luz in the Algarve. 
The case was closed and then reopened, but nothing new was found, all scenarios remain open". 

Translated with google.
Ler mais em: http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/nacional/portugal/detalhe/pgr_recebe_ingleses.html

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Re: "Meeting on the Maddie case between British police and Portuguese authorities"

Post by BlueBag on Sat 14 Mar 2015 - 22:51

Judges verdict must be imminent.

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Re: "Meeting on the Maddie case between British police and Portuguese authorities"

Post by G-Unit on Sun 15 Mar 2015 - 10:09

I wonder why the British Ambassador and a representative from the British Attorney General's Office were invited to attend. Is this usual?

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Four possibilities

Post by Tony Bennett on Sun 15 Mar 2015 - 11:50

@NickE wrote:A working meeting with the Portuguese authorities to strengthen cooperation in searches. 


By Tania Laranjo 
"Hour and a half meeting. The stage was the Attorney General's Office; the protagonists, British and Portuguese authorities. The goal was the same as has already caused other such meetings. Strengthen the link between the authorities of both countries, cementing bonds that allow a joint investigation to clarify the Maddie case. The leader of the British police team, Nicola Wall, was one of attending the meeting. The side of the Judicial Police, the representation was taken by Pedro do Carmo magistrate, assistant national director. Also the attorney general district and the investigation of the holder which remains open in Faro County were present. 
It was also asked to participate a representative of the Attorney General of the English Republic and the British ambassador. This was the second meeting of Nicola Wall with the highest representatives of the process. 
The English provincial happened late last year to Andy Redwood, who retired from the Metropolitan Police Service. Nicola Wall transferred from the Homicide and Serious Crimes division to Grange operation, investigating the disappearance of British child, the May 3, 2007, the room where he slept with two twin brothers, younger, in an apartment of a tourist village, in Praia da Luz in the Algarve. 
The case was closed and then reopened, but nothing new was found, all scenarios remain open". 

Translated with google.
Ler mais em: http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/nacional/portugal/detalhe/pgr_recebe_ingleses.html
Thank you once again for posting this news, NickE, it's very helpful.

As G-Unit has rightly questioned, and if the translation is correct in suggesting that someone from the U.K. Attorney-General's Department AND the British Ambassador were present at this meeting, it is clearly significant.

But in what way?

Suppose that the British police were just plodding on, trying to establish who the abductor was, but not having established yet who it was that took Madeleine. Would such a high-level conference really be necessary? I suggest 'NO'.

That leaves four possibilities, I think:

1. Operation Grange has finally decided who the abductor is, he is alive, and Grange wants the full co-operation of the Portuguese authorities to arrest, charge and prosecute him, or          

2. Operation Grange has finally decided who the abductor is, he is dead, and Grange want the co-operation of the Portuguese police to rubber-stamp its identification of the abductor - with a view to a press conference and formal announcement to that effect in the coming weeks or months, or    

3. The McCanns and the Tapas 7 are in the frame and exceptional measures need to be discussed as to how to bring them to justice 

4. This is a continuing cover-up at the very highest level in both the U.K. and Portugal, and they all need to get their heads together to work out how to bring this expensive charade to an end.


I still suggest that the evidence points to No. 4

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Re: "Meeting on the Maddie case between British police and Portuguese authorities"

Post by Mo on Sun 15 Mar 2015 - 12:25

Do you think then Tony that the U.K. Attorney-General's Department and the British Ambassador have been invited to clear the Mcanns and Tapas 7 once and for all?

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Re: "Meeting on the Maddie case between British police and Portuguese authorities"

Post by HelenMeg on Sun 15 Mar 2015 - 12:39

@Tony Bennett wrote:
@NickE wrote:A working meeting with the Portuguese authorities to strengthen cooperation in searches. 


By Tania Laranjo 
"Hour and a half meeting. The stage was the Attorney General's Office; the protagonists, British and Portuguese authorities. The goal was the same as has already caused other such meetings. Strengthen the link between the authorities of both countries, cementing bonds that allow a joint investigation to clarify the Maddie case. The leader of the British police team, Nicola Wall, was one of attending the meeting. The side of the Judicial Police, the representation was taken by Pedro do Carmo magistrate, assistant national director. Also the attorney general district and the investigation of the holder which remains open in Faro County were present. 
It was also asked to participate a representative of the Attorney General of the English Republic and the British ambassador. This was the second meeting of Nicola Wall with the highest representatives of the process. 
The English provincial happened late last year to Andy Redwood, who retired from the Metropolitan Police Service. Nicola Wall transferred from the Homicide and Serious Crimes division to Grange operation, investigating the disappearance of British child, the May 3, 2007, the room where he slept with two twin brothers, younger, in an apartment of a tourist village, in Praia da Luz in the Algarve. 
The case was closed and then reopened, but nothing new was found, all scenarios remain open". 

Translated with google.
Ler mais em: http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/nacional/portugal/detalhe/pgr_recebe_ingleses.html
Thank you once again for posting this news, NickE, it's very helpful.

As G-Unit has rightly questioned, and if the translation is correct in suggesting that someone from the U.K. Attorney-General's Department AND the British Ambassador were present at this meeting, it is clearly significant.

But in what way?

Suppose that the British police were just plodding on, trying to establish who the abductor was, but not having established yet who it was that took Madeleine. Would such a high-level conference really be necessary? I suggest 'NO'.

That leaves four possibilities, I think:

1. Operation Grange has finally decided who the abductor is, he is alive, and Grange wants the full co-operation of the Portuguese authorities to arrest, charge and prosecute him, or          

2. Operation Grange has finally decided who the abductor is, he is dead, and Grange want the co-operation of the Portuguese police to rubber-stamp its identification of the abductor - with a view to a press conference and formal announcement to that effect in the coming weeks or months, or    

3. The McCanns and the Tapas 7 are in the frame and exceptional measures need to be discussed as to how to bring them to justice 

4. This is a continuing cover-up at the very highest level in both the U.K. and Portugal, and they all need to get their heads together to work out how to bring this expensive charade to an end.


I still suggest that the evidence points to No. 4
I'm going to say option 3.

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Re: "Meeting on the Maddie case between British police and Portuguese authorities"

Post by Tony Bennett on Sun 15 Mar 2015 - 12:49

@Mo wrote:Do you think then Tony that the U.K. Attorney-General's Department and the British Ambassador have been invited to clear the McCanns and Tapas 7 once and for all?
YES. I think DCI Nicola Wall will have presented her provisional conclusion to the meeting - "probably burglar who murdered Madeleine in G5A and then carried her off and was seen by the Smiths...unfortunately he may never be found" - and all those present at last week's meeting (who will I am sure have been heavily briefed from the highest level in both the U.K. and Portugal) were probably just there to discuss the timing of any formal announcement, possibly planning simultaneous announcements in both countries. It will be announced that both of the formal investigations (U.K. and Portugal) will be closed again -'unless there is new and credible evidence'. They might even be discussing how to announce the news on a 'good day to bury bad news'.

The McCanns will be informed well in advance and will be prepared, with a statement paying tribute to the Met Police for 'having done all that they possibly can', probably adding: 'But we still have hope...'

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Re: "Meeting on the Maddie case between British police and Portuguese authorities"

Post by noseyparker on Sun 15 Mar 2015 - 13:06

@Tony Bennett wrote:
@Mo wrote:Do you think then Tony that the U.K. Attorney-General's Department and the British Ambassador have been invited to clear the McCanns and Tapas 7 once and for all?
YES. I think DCI Nicola Wall will have presented her provisional conclusion to the meeting - "probably burglar who murdered Madeleine in G5A and then carried her off and was seen by the Smiths...unfortunately he may never be found" - and all those present at last week's meeting (who will I am sure have been heavily briefed from the highest level in both the U.K. and Portugal) were probably just there to discuss the timing of any formal announcement, possibly planning simultaneous announcements in both countries. It will be announced that both of the formal investigations (U.K. and Portugal) will be closed again -'unless there is new and credible evidence'. They might even be discussing how to announce the news on a 'good day to bury bad news'.

The McCanns will be informed well in advance and will be prepared, with a statement paying tribute to the Met Police for 'having done all that they possibly can', probably adding: 'But we still have hope...'
If that is whats happening wouldn,t their have to be an inquest  by a coroner?

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Post by Tony Bennett on Sun 15 Mar 2015 - 13:10

@noseyparker wrote:
@Tony Bennett wrote:
@Mo wrote:Do you think then Tony that the U.K. Attorney-General's Department and the British Ambassador have been invited to clear the McCanns and Tapas 7 once and for all?
YES. I think DCI Nicola Wall will have presented her provisional conclusion to the meeting - "probably burglar who murdered Madeleine in G5A and then carried her off and was seen by the Smiths...unfortunately he may never be found" - and all those present at last week's meeting (who will I am sure have been heavily briefed from the highest level in both the U.K. and Portugal) were probably just there to discuss the timing of any formal announcement, possibly planning simultaneous announcements in both countries. It will be announced that both of the formal investigations (U.K. and Portugal) will be closed again -'unless there is new and credible evidence'. They might even be discussing how to announce the news on a 'good day to bury bad news'.

The McCanns will be informed well in advance and will be prepared, with a statement paying tribute to the Met Police for 'having done all that they possibly can', probably adding: 'But we still have hope...'
If that is what's happening, wouldn't there have to be an inquest by a Coroner?
NO.

No body, so no inquest in Portugal.

Did Madeleine go missing in the U.K. or within U.K. territorial waters? - No, so no inquest in the U.K.


P.S. Have you reconsidered your support for Robert Green yet?

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Re: "Meeting on the Maddie case between British police and Portuguese authorities"

Post by jeanmonroe on Sun 15 Mar 2015 - 13:39

@TB

That leaves four possibilities, I think:

1. Operation Grange has finally decided who the abductor is, he is alive, and Grange wants the full co-operation of the Portuguese authorities to arrest, charge and prosecute him, or

2. Operation Grange has finally decided who the abductor is, he is dead, and Grange want the co-operation of the Portuguese police to rubber-stamp its identification of the abductor - with a view to a press conference and formal announcement to that effect in the coming weeks or months, or
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He,.................. HE?

So the 'burglator' WAS a HE, then?

Despite Gerry McCann's 'statement' that 'the 'abductor' has 'been having a laff, these lat six years. He. SHE or THEY are still out there, waiting to strike again'?

HE, SHE or THEY, have NOT 'struck' AGAIN, since the 3rd May 2007, have they, Gerry?

Indeed HE, SHE, or THEY didn't 'strike' in the SEVEN years BEFORE the 3rd May 2007, did they, Gerry?
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I think DCI Nicola Wall will have presented her provisional conclusion to the meeting - "probably burglar who murdered Madeleine in G5A and then carried her off and was seen by the Smiths...unfortunately he may never be found"
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DCI Wall's 'provisional CONCLUSION'?

or is that

DCI Wall's PERSONAL 'conclusion'? (belief?)

WHY should DCI Wall's 'provisional/personal 'conclusion' be MORE 'acceptable' than GA's and PJ's 'conclusion'?

It wouldn't be and 'isn't', without 'concrete 'evidence', imo.

Finally,

How would this OG 'scenario' CLEAR the McCanns, their 'friends', or persons they 'know', and 'eliminate' them from possible 'involvement' in Madeleine's 'disappearance'?

Just one copper's 'say so' does NOT!

There's another, more senior, cop, who stated, in a UK court room, that '.........there is no 'evidence' to eliminate the McCann's from possible 'involvement' in Madeleine's 'disappearance'"

So WHICH 'copper' is RIGHT?


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Post by noseyparker on Sun 15 Mar 2015 - 13:55

@Tony Bennett wrote:




P.S. Have you reconsidered your support for Robert Green yet?
This was a post about the Mccann,s not Robert Green.You seem to want to provoke some kind of reaction to previous posts on the Hollie Greig case,put your B.S. in the appropiate thread if you have anything relevant to ask.Thank you

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Re: "Meeting on the Maddie case between British police and Portuguese authorities"

Post by mysterion on Sun 15 Mar 2015 - 14:29

The meeting is reported in the Sunday Express on line. Not allowing any comments. Don`t know the reason. Can`t do a link from my tablet.

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