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I'm sorry folks but I think dragging the children of the T9 into this is out of order. These kids did nothing wrong and they are still kids - to call a 12 year old hormonal and say to her mother 'enjoy' is not nice.
Whatever the parents did in PDL has nothing to do with their children. Whatever the children of the T9 (well it's T8 really in terms of parenting) read in the future/don't read is not for any of us to wonder about.
I have to say that I could weep at the level things have reduced to. I don't do Facebook so I can't read what's said but I've seen things posted up today on other forums that make me sad and angry.
Please, please leave their children out of it. They are innocent, just as innocent as your child or mine and just as entitled to a childhood. It's not their fault they were in PDL.
Whatever the parents did in PDL has nothing to do with their children. Whatever the children of the T9 (well it's T8 really in terms of parenting) read in the future/don't read is not for any of us to wonder about.
I have to say that I could weep at the level things have reduced to. I don't do Facebook so I can't read what's said but I've seen things posted up today on other forums that make me sad and angry.
Please, please leave their children out of it. They are innocent, just as innocent as your child or mine and just as entitled to a childhood. It's not their fault they were in PDL.
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Sorry to offend you aquila.aquila wrote:I'm sorry folks but I think dragging the children of the T9 into this is out of order. These kids did nothing wrong and they are still kids - to call a 12 year old hormonal and say to her mother 'enjoy' is not nice.
Whatever the parents did in PDL has nothing to do with their children. Whatever the children of the T9 (well it's T8 really in terms of parenting) read in the future/don't read is not for any of us to wonder about.
I have to say that I could weep at the level things have reduced to. I don't do Facebook so I can't read what's said but I've seen things posted up today on other forums that make me sad and angry.
Please, please leave their children out of it. They are innocent just as innocent as your child or mine.
Having been a mother to a hormonal girl I do sympathize with any mother as they get the brunt of it imo.
I will go back under my stone, perish the thought that I should post.
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Certainly is Ladyinred, my daughter is now 53 and son 51 and I am still helping through changes and transitions.Ladyinred wrote:That's what parenting is all about, helping our children through changes and transitions.
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Sorry Nina, I didn't mean to offend you; as you know I have a very deep respect for you. It wasn't my intention to pull you up on your post. I am sharp sometimes - so sorry for that.Nina wrote:Sorry to offend you aquila.aquila wrote:I'm sorry folks but I think dragging the children of the T9 into this is out of order. These kids did nothing wrong and they are still kids - to call a 12 year old hormonal and say to her mother 'enjoy' is not nice.
Whatever the parents did in PDL has nothing to do with their children. Whatever the children of the T9 (well it's T8 really in terms of parenting) read in the future/don't read is not for any of us to wonder about.
I have to say that I could weep at the level things have reduced to. I don't do Facebook so I can't read what's said but I've seen things posted up today on other forums that make me sad and angry.
Please, please leave their children out of it. They are innocent just as innocent as your child or mine.
Having been a mother to a hormonal girl I do sympathize with any mother as they get the brunt of it imo.
I will go back under my stone, perish the thought that I should post.
It's August.
Nothing is happening with the damages trial in Lisbon.
Dr Amaral is being funded for an appeal. It's not really clear if that appeal has yet been lodged.
Nothing is happening in the media.
Nothing is happening with OG (above will let loose something when Dr Amaral's case gets to at least a hearing which is unlikely imo to be until at least November - what's another year!)
In the meantime there is some vile stuff going on Twitter and it comes from boredom imo. Why project what a child will or will not read when they are grown up!
Everyday there is the same old stuff churning
Make no mistake that I think OG is fake and influenced by anything other than the life of Madeleine McCann. Madeleine is the greatest financial soap opera history.
I really do apologise Nina if I have offended you
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The swinging is no explanation for a coverup: they still could have called the cops and hid the swinging. Why would the police suspect swinging in case of death unless the swinging caused the death.
Lets not forget: the coverup and made up timeline only posed them to more scrutiny and still accusations of neglect.
Hiding the body was paramount and the only objective reached by a staged abduction.
They were willing to risk and undergo anything as long as the body was not found:
Meaning they desperately wanted to avoid an autopsy, because it would expose something none of the group wanted exposed and for all were willing to lie.
The body would hardly produce evidence of swinging, would it?
the Gaspar allegations, the CATS registry, the sick remarks on page 129 of KM's book, the collective bathing, the makeup picture, the remarks of the Tapas males during the rogatory hearings about MBM
all point to one thing
Lets not forget: the coverup and made up timeline only posed them to more scrutiny and still accusations of neglect.
Hiding the body was paramount and the only objective reached by a staged abduction.
They were willing to risk and undergo anything as long as the body was not found:
Meaning they desperately wanted to avoid an autopsy, because it would expose something none of the group wanted exposed and for all were willing to lie.
The body would hardly produce evidence of swinging, would it?
the Gaspar allegations, the CATS registry, the sick remarks on page 129 of KM's book, the collective bathing, the makeup picture, the remarks of the Tapas males during the rogatory hearings about MBM
all point to one thing
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And if Madeleine got a bashing from one of the "swinging" group then why would the parents want to cover for this so called swinger. Likewise if it was one of the parents who bashed her during a group act, why would the others cover for them.
I still think if it was swinging then the swinging could have been covered up.
I think I'd rather be known as a swinger than a habitual child neglector if I was giving the choice. Something's more sinister was going on and Madeleine could never be found whatever the cost.
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I still think if it was swinging then the swinging could have been covered up.
I think I'd rather be known as a swinger than a habitual child neglector if I was giving the choice. Something's more sinister was going on and Madeleine could never be found whatever the cost.
MOD NOTE:
Edited to remove unsubstantiated claim.
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mmm.Where is Gerry's tan of the last photograph?MayMuse wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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Apologies but What was it I said that was removed, I don't want to repeat it again and I cant rememberMaria wrote:And if Madeleine got a bashing from one of the "swinging" group then why would the parents want to cover for this so called swinger. Likewise if it was one of the parents who bashed her during a group act, why would the others cover for them.
I still think if it was swinging then the swinging could have been covered up.
I think I'd rather be known as a swinger than a habitual child neglector if I was giving the choice. Something's more sinister was going on and Madeleine could never be found whatever the cost.
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They all do really, and the strain on their faces is palpable, notice how cuddle cat came out in the car as KM buried her face in it...was that to avoid media shots?
Interesting that they all belong to GettyImages whereby photos etc are "purchased" I think?
Interesting that they all belong to GettyImages whereby photos etc are "purchased" I think?
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MayMuse wrote:They all do really, and the strain on their faces is palpable, notice how cuddle cat came out in the car as KM buried her face in it...was that to avoid media shots?Maria wrote:MayMuse wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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Tanner looks like a lost sheep
Interesting that they all belong to GettyImages whereby photos etc are "purchased" I think???
I did notice she had cuddle cat in her pocket as she was taking off her jacket before she got into the car. The prop was in action from the very beginning.. Avoiding media shots or more likely to show the world she couldn't leave home without it. Either way the show had begun
I dont know anything about GettyImages.
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Ah yes, missing Maddie's beloved toy that mummy dearest virtually washed the stuffing out of! [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]MayMuse wrote:They all do really, and the strain on their faces is palpable, notice how cuddle cat came out in the car as KM buried her face in it...was that to avoid media shots?Maria wrote:MayMuse wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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Tanner looks like a lost sheep
Interesting that they all belong to GettyImages whereby photos etc are "purchased" I think???
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And purchased the domain name for! Now what was all that about? Another one of Gerry's "marketing ploys"? This has all been about £££ from the get-go. Poor wee Maddie.
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May I urge members to spend some time watching these short videos?MayMuse wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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The words 'morally bankrupt' spring to mind.BarryTheHatchet wrote:And purchased the domain name for! Now what was all that about? Another one of Gerry's "marketing ploys"? This has all been about £££ from the get-go. Poor wee Maddie.
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Have watched a few and will definately watch more, but there is only so much my stomach can handle in one sittingNina wrote:May I urge members to spend some time watching these short videos?MayMuse wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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MayMuse, such was my interest in this link and my desire to share it with thousands of members on the HiDeHo Controversy Facebook group that I didn't ask your permission to put it there.MayMuse wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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We have moved house this last week and my stress levels are heightened and my manners lowered too it would seem.
An excellent find.I have I hope now made good and acknowledged your find.
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], I've sent you a pm.Maria wrote:Apologies but What was it I said that was removed, I don't want to repeat it again and I cant rememberMaria wrote:And if Madeleine got a bashing from one of the "swinging" group then why would the parents want to cover for this so called swinger. Likewise if it was one of the parents who bashed her during a group act, why would the others cover for them.
I still think if it was swinging then the swinging could have been covered up.
I think I'd rather be known as a swinger than a habitual child neglector if I was giving the choice. Something's more sinister was going on and Madeleine could never be found whatever the cost.
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Edited to remove unsubstantiated claim.
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]Nina wrote:MayMuse, such was my interest in this link and my desire to share it with thousands of members on the HiDeHo Controversy Facebook group that I didn't ask your permission to put it there.MayMuse wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
You can view all the coverage from the above link from 2007 onwards.
We have moved house this last week and my stress levels are heightened and my manners lowered too it would seem.
An excellent find.I have I hope now made good and acknowledged your find.
It is in the public domain, granted not everyone knows or finds but there nevertheless, albeit some it seems have been deleted? Worth watching to refresh "memories" And for anyone with new interest in Madeleine's disappearance.
Acknowledgement was not expected... Thank you
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Thank you for putting these videos on the forum. I have never seen them before. I was very surprised to hear Martin Brunt reporting on Summers and Swan's 'pimply man' and the 'creaky- gate- closer'. He ends by quoting statistics about the possible safe return of a child Madeleine's age.
Please tell me, are there two Martin Brunts working for Sky news? I seem to remember a Martin Brunt talking about DNA. I seem to remember a Martin Brunt talking about British blood and cadaver dogs. I seem to remember a Martin Brunt talking about Kate and Gerry being made arguidos. Are there two Martin Brunts?
Please tell me, are there two Martin Brunts working for Sky news? I seem to remember a Martin Brunt talking about DNA. I seem to remember a Martin Brunt talking about British blood and cadaver dogs. I seem to remember a Martin Brunt talking about Kate and Gerry being made arguidos. Are there two Martin Brunts?
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No, there's just the one Martin Brunt as his pay-packet evidence will prove. He did go off on a weird trip to busk in France for a day after Brenda Leyland's death though - and it was reported in...wait for it....the UK Press.
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And reporting about the possible imminent arrest of KM???worriedmum wrote:Thank you for putting these videos on the forum. I have never seen them before. I was very surprised to hear Martin Brunt reporting on Summers and Swan's 'pimply man' and the 'creaky- gate- closer'. He ends by quoting statistics about the possible safe return of a child Madeleine's age.
Please tell me, are there two Martin Brunts working for Sky news? I seem to remember a Martin Brunt talking about DNA. I seem to remember a Martin Brunt talking about British blood and cadaver dogs. I seem to remember a Martin Brunt talking about Kate and Gerry being made arguidos. Are there two Martin Brunts?
Rather odd all this Mcanndango reporting isn't it?
Perhaps he has been 'substituted'???
Maybe the real MB could stand up, and maybe when he does he can apologise to the world about his harassment of poor Brenda Leyland and admit he got it wrong!!! (Oh look there's a flying pink pig!)
Some journalist pfft!!!
As for the links, most welcome.
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