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Post by Rogue-a-Tory 18.06.15 14:26

jeanmonroe wrote:http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/kate-mccann-finishes-charity-bike-9477505
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victor 2 •4 hours ago

suit her better to pedal to portugal to find her daughter

thegfella •2 hours ago

She'd have Madeleine on her lap now if she didn't leave her alone in a foreign country whilst she was out getting blotto.
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Scouse 'humour', eh, Kate?
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Mrs McCann was greeted by her cheering husband Gerry and their two children * as she completed the five-day Edinburgh to London challenge at the Tower of London today.

(Of COURSE she was!)

Alternatively,

Mrs McCann was greeted by her cheering husband Gerry and their two children as she completed HER five-day, Edinburgh to London, 'search' for her 'missing' daughter, Madeleine, at the Tower of London today.

(Unfortunately, neither she, Gerry and the twins,'found' Madeleine. Kate 'said' 'never mind, maybe we'll have better luck, at the next charidy 10km 'fun run', we McCann's hi-jack, to find Madeleine' And, on that 'bombshell', Kate, Gerry and the twins,  were 'gone')

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* two of their children or is that another PeterMac fart brain moment?
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Post by jeanmonroe 18.06.15 15:04

* two of their children or is that another PeterMac fart brain moment?
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Just 'like' Madeleine, at her last 'breakfast' in PDL,.........'they've MOVED on'

Sad, innit?

I'm sure, though, their £millions, in their private Madeleine's 'search' Fund, will 'soothe' and 'comfort' them, and 'ease' their 'pain', don't you?.
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Post by jeanmonroe 18.06.15 15:33

No 'photo's' of the 'cheering' Gerry, to greet Kate, at the Tower of London, from the huge, assembled, 'press pack' then?

Maybe Exclusiff 'pics' will exclusively publish 'some' later!

When they have 'photo shopped' Kate and Gerry to 'looking', well, er, umm............'all sad', 'thinking' of their missing Madeleine, but not, actually 'searching' for their 'missing' Madeleine.
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Post by tigger 18.06.15 15:55

Judy Finnigan on Radio5 live -  around 14.30 - 14.50 on McCann, PdL etc. warbling on about the terrible abduction.  Perhaps possible to listen again? 

What is it with the news? Sun with ten children 'found' by Kate. Plus sugary article. 

Is this a big PR push?

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Post by PeterMac 18.06.15 16:30

recorded for posterity. Even the people of Liverpool are not buying this.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/kate-mccann-finishes-charity-bike-9477505
Dated 18:56, 17 JUNE 2015 (Though it could obviously be any other McDate and McTime !)
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Liverpool mum of missing Madeleine McCann raises money to help families with missing relatives
truthseeker not a troll • a few seconds ago
PLEASE CHECK OUT RICHARD D HALLS DOCUMENTARY ON YOUTUBE "HIDDEN BY THE MAIN STREAM MEDIA" WHAT REALLY HAPPENED TO MADELEINE McCANN PLEASE DONATE AT GOFUNDME GOCALO AMARAL
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thegfella • 17 hours ago
She'd have Madeleine on her lap now if she didn't leave her alone in a foreign country whilst she was out getting blotto
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victor 2 • 20 hours ago
suit her better to pedal to portugal to find her daughter
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josefine sara victor 2 • 18 hours ago
°❋♢❋°. I just agree... Paula `s story is incredible... yesterday I got themselves a Lexus LS400 from having made $9785 this month and just a little over ten/k this past month . it's certainly the nicest-job Ive ever had . I began this eight months/ago and pretty much straight away earned minimum $78 per-hr ...

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nnss • 13 hours ago
She should have shown the same commitment in caring for her children or searching for Madeleine.
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Logic nnss • 3 hours ago
Whilst it is a harsh comment. The truth resonates, parents negligence played as much part in her disappearance as the perpetrator. I firmly believe criminal charges would have been brought against them for this negligence should they not have 'lost' there child.
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victor 2 Logic • 2 hours ago
if it was a single parent on her owe she would have been yet these 2 get to meet the pope
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efcblue1878 • 4 hours ago
Disgraceful comments on Madeleine's mum!

Do you three (thegfella, victor
& nnss) all sit and watch your kids all night JUST IN CASE someone
comes to take them?!? And isn't she still regretting not having gone back to check on Madeleine even more frequently. Absolutely heartless you are.

Who was it who said:-"Let he who is without sin . . ."?
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kristof efcblue1878 • 4 hours ago
Have you even thought about what you typed before posting?
"And isn't she still regretting not having gone back to check on Madeleine even more frequently." - She should be regretting the fact that she left her alone at all.
You don't have to sit and watch your kids all night, just stay in the same house/apartment/hotel room.

I have heard many, many people comment on how those poor parents must be feeling, but I can't recall hearing anyone point out how Madeleine must be feeling.
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efcblue1878 kristof • 3 hours ago
Don't know if you have kids, kristof. But from the moment they're born you make calculated decisions on how much leaway you can give them. They were in holiday resort (not in a big city train station), left the 2 kids inside a locked bedroom, checked every 30 minutes (i recall) from the dining area 30 yards away. But they could have stayed in the room with them.
Would YOU have stayed every night in the room, as I say, just in case?
That's why I'm sure they will still be regretting not having done more.
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Logic efcblue1878 • 3 hours ago
YES! Simple as - you forfeit the right to go drinking in the night with friends when you take your toddler and babies with you!! I have a 2 year old son and I will not be leaving him in the apartment whilst I have a jolly 10 yards away let alone 30 when I am on holiday! A locked room... with a window open! They where abandoned end of. Clearly they could not see all access points that's if it wasn't them who did it. How her parents have never been prosecuted I don't know.
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efcblue1878 Logic • 3 hours ago
And that's where we differ. I don't think they were negligent. You do.
We're all human and make mistakes as they did - hence the regret.
Scandalous of you to imply 'they' did it, though, with no evidence.
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Logic efcblue1878 • 3 hours ago
There was as much evidence to suggest they where involved as to suggest they wasn't. Hence why there where named as 'arguidos'. You seem to have read up on the case or do you ignore these parts to justify your biased opinion. The fact is had Madeleine not went missing, they would have faced criminal charges for leaving them alone - a quick internet search reveals that. It was decided that there daughter being missing was enough punishment. The evidence was small and not enough to proceed down the route of a trial but none the less it was there. That's why I 'imply'.
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efcblue1878 Logic • 3 hours ago
With the massive press investigation lasting months, had there been any genuine evidence, they would have been hung out to dry and I like you would have agreed with that. There wasn't any.
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Logic Logic • 3 hours ago
To be clear are you actually saying you would have left a toddler and 2 babies in a locked room with a window open that you did not have a visual of in a foreign country, whilst you dined with friends in the night. ONLY checking every 30 mins?
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efcblue1878 Logic • 3 hours ago
Not with a window left open - of course not.
We brought up both our kids up with foreign holidays safely and vigilantly, while socialising with sensible precautions.
And my view isn't biased - I've no connection with them. Believe they could have done more as we all can. But hindsight is 20:20. If only . . .
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Logic efcblue1878 • 3 hours ago
I by no means wish to exert my view as the right view on anyone - that's the type of stuff that causes wars. We clearly have a different view and whilst I respect yours, I don't agree with it. I certainly am not telling anyone how to raise there kids. I merely state that window open or not, locked or not. I wouldn't leave my child/ren in a room in any situation when I am not in that building as such.
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victor 2 efcblue1878 • 3 hours ago
no i don't sit and watch them all night but they would'nt be out of my sight for more than 5 minutes and im male single parent who as took my kids every were AND i can sleep at night
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truthseeker not a troll • 5 hours ago
Dear readers to help to find out where Madeleine is please donate at gofundme goncalo amaral he needs your help in his quest for the truth
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jeanmonroe wrote:http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/kate-mccann-finishes-charity-bike-9477505
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victor 2 •4 hours ago

suit her better to pedal to portugal to find her daughter

thegfella •2 hours ago

She'd have Madeleine on her lap now if she didn't leave her alone in a foreign country whilst she was out getting blotto.
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Scouse 'humour', eh, Kate?
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Mrs McCann was greeted by her cheering husband Gerry and their two children as she completed the five-day Edinburgh to London challenge at the Tower of London today.

(Of COURSE she was!)

Alternatively,

Mrs McCann was greeted by her cheering husband Gerry and their two children as she completed HER five-day, Edinburgh to London, 'search' for her 'missing' daughter, Madeleine, at the Tower of London today.

(Unfortunately, neither she, Gerry and the twins,'found' Madeleine. Kate 'said' 'never mind, maybe we'll have better luck, at the next charidy 10km 'fun run', we McCann's hi-jack, to find Madeleine' And, on that 'bombshell', Kate, Gerry and the twins,  were 'gone')

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"Bizznizz was slow, at the Tower of London", said Mr McCann, as he failed to sell a single GQ 'FindMadeleine' WB to any of the other 'riders' of the MP cycle challenge. "Not even my 'bro', John, would buy one!" he lamented.

Where's Fiona??

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Post by Rogue-a-Tory 18.06.15 16:59

lj wrote:
jeanmonroe wrote:http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/kate-mccann-finishes-charity-bike-9477505
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victor 2 •4 hours ago

suit her better to pedal to portugal to find her daughter

thegfella •2 hours ago

She'd have Madeleine on her lap now if she didn't leave her alone in a foreign country whilst she was out getting blotto.
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Scouse 'humour', eh, Kate?
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Mrs McCann was greeted by her cheering husband Gerry and their two children as she completed the five-day Edinburgh to London challenge at the Tower of London today.

(Of COURSE she was!)

Alternatively,

Mrs McCann was greeted by her cheering husband Gerry and their two children as she completed HER five-day, Edinburgh to London, 'search' for her 'missing' daughter, Madeleine, at the Tower of London today.

(Unfortunately, neither she, Gerry and the twins,'found' Madeleine. Kate 'said' 'never mind, maybe we'll have better luck, at the next charidy 10km 'fun run', we McCann's hi-jack, to find Madeleine' And, on that 'bombshell', Kate, Gerry and the twins,  were 'gone')

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"Bizznizz was slow, at the Tower of London", said Mr McCann, as he failed to sell a single GQ 'FindMadeleine' WB to any of the other 'riders' of the MP cycle challenge. "Not even my 'bro', John, would buy one!" he lamented.

Where's Fiona??
Gone missing. There'll be an alert any moment big grin
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Post by Gaggzy 18.06.15 17:01

lj wrote:
jeanmonroe wrote:http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/kate-mccann-finishes-charity-bike-9477505
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victor 2 •4 hours ago

suit her better to pedal to portugal to find her daughter

thegfella •2 hours ago

She'd have Madeleine on her lap now if she didn't leave her alone in a foreign country whilst she was out getting blotto.
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Scouse 'humour', eh, Kate?
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Mrs McCann was greeted by her cheering husband Gerry and their two children as she completed the five-day Edinburgh to London challenge at the Tower of London today.

(Of COURSE she was!)

Alternatively,

Mrs McCann was greeted by her cheering husband Gerry and their two children as she completed HER five-day, Edinburgh to London, 'search' for her 'missing' daughter, Madeleine, at the Tower of London today.

(Unfortunately, neither she, Gerry and the twins,'found' Madeleine. Kate 'said' 'never mind, maybe we'll have better luck, at the next charidy 10km 'fun run', we McCann's hi-jack, to find Madeleine' And, on that 'bombshell', Kate, Gerry and the twins,  were 'gone')

***Missing People Bike Ride now under way (Kate McCann, Simon Cowell and Stephen Fry back Missing People campaign on Twitter)  - Page 9 Cyclee10
"Bizznizz was slow, at the Tower of London", said Mr McCann, as he failed to sell a single GQ 'FindMadeleine' WB to any of the other 'riders' of the MP cycle challenge. "Not even my 'bro', John, would buy one!" he lamented.

Where's Fiona??

Abducted?
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Rogue-a-Tory wrote:
lj wrote:
jeanmonroe wrote:http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/kate-mccann-finishes-charity-bike-9477505
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victor 2 •4 hours ago

suit her better to pedal to portugal to find her daughter

thegfella •2 hours ago

She'd have Madeleine on her lap now if she didn't leave her alone in a foreign country whilst she was out getting blotto.
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Scouse 'humour', eh, Kate?
----------------------------------------

Mrs McCann was greeted by her cheering husband Gerry and their two children as she completed the five-day Edinburgh to London challenge at the Tower of London today.

(Of COURSE she was!)

Alternatively,

Mrs McCann was greeted by her cheering husband Gerry and their two children as she completed HER five-day, Edinburgh to London, 'search' for her 'missing' daughter, Madeleine, at the Tower of London today.

(Unfortunately, neither she, Gerry and the twins,'found' Madeleine. Kate 'said' 'never mind, maybe we'll have better luck, at the next charidy 10km 'fun run', we McCann's hi-jack, to find Madeleine' And, on that 'bombshell', Kate, Gerry and the twins,  were 'gone')

***Missing People Bike Ride now under way (Kate McCann, Simon Cowell and Stephen Fry back Missing People campaign on Twitter)  - Page 9 Cyclee10
"Bizznizz was slow, at the Tower of London", said Mr McCann, as he failed to sell a single GQ 'FindMadeleine' WB to any of the other 'riders' of the MP cycle challenge. "Not even my 'bro', John, would buy one!" he lamented.

Where's Fiona??
Gone missing. There'll be an alert any moment big grin


Or she is still figuring out if she had to be there 5 min or 5 days. She has some trouble with time.

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Post by Guest 18.06.15 17:34

tigger wrote:Judy Finnigan on Radio5 live -  around 14.30 - 14.50 on McCann, PdL etc. warbling on about the terrible abduction.  Perhaps possible to listen again? 

What is it with the news? Sun with ten children 'found' by Kate. Plus sugary article. 

Is this a big PR push?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b05yl3xf#auto
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Re: Picture of cheering bikers

Funny how the two guys standing next to KH are being squeezed back en aside; just look at what they are forced to do with their left and right arm respectively

Two Punches & one Judy show, vice versa
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Post by jeanmonroe 18.06.15 19:24

efcblue1878 kristof • 3 hours ago
Don't know if you have kids, kristof. But from the moment they're born you make calculated decisions on how much leaway you can give them. They were in holiday resort (not in a big city train station), left the 2 kids inside a locked bedroom, checked every 30 minutes (i recall) from the dining area 30 yards away. But they could have stayed in the room with them.
Would YOU have stayed every night in the room, as I say, just in case?
That's why I'm sure they will still be regretting not having done more.
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A mc 'supporter'?

Jeezzzzz!

'left the 2 (TWO) kids inside a LOCKED bedroom"

Am i missing 'something'............TWO KIDS!

"30 YARDS AWAY"

Even KM has said 'it was 49.5 metres 'away' actually (as the crow flies) ...google it'!

Next, Mrs Healy, you'll be saying 'they had a clear line of sight of their kids, and some nasty 'burglator', SMASHED the shutter, of the 'chalet' to get 'at' the TWO kids!

How 'easily' you 'forget' Madeleine, the THIRD 'kid'!

With 'supporters' like THAT, who needs........'disbelievers'!
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Post by lj 18.06.15 21:37

Portia wrote:Re: Picture of cheering bikers

Funny how the two guys standing next to KH are being squeezed back en aside; just look at what they are forced to do with their left and right arm respectively

Two Punches & one Judy show, vice versa


I noticed that too. So typical Kate, ME-I_ME.

Poor Madeleine, she never had a chance.

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Post by plebgate 19.06.15 11:42

Ladyinred wrote:Naughty Gaggzy!

Anyone notice the bunch of flowers on the left - who's holding it?
Could be Fi holding that bunch of flowers.   If not, where is she?    Would have thought she would have been standing next to her bezzie mate for the photos, but it is possible I suppose that even she is getting a bit fed up with the smiling/grinning Mrs. Highness photo ops, given that Maddie  has been missing for 8 years under goodness knows what cirumstances?
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Post by jeanmonroe 19.06.15 14:09

plebgate

"given that Maddie  has been missing for 8 years............"
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Tsk, tsk! Plebgate!

You 'silly billy'!

"Maddie has been 'abducted' for 8 years"!  winkwink

Donchya 'know'? laughat
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plebgate wrote:
Ladyinred wrote:Naughty Gaggzy!

Anyone notice the bunch of flowers on the left - who's holding it?
Could be Fi holding that bunch of flowers.   If not, where is she?    Would have thought she would have been standing next to her bezzie mate for the photos, but it is possible I suppose that even she is getting a bit fed up with the smiling/grinning Mrs. Highness photo ops, given that Maddie  has been missing for 8 years under goodness knows what cirumstances?


She might be fed up with Kate, but I doubt she will openly bail out.

She has a husband to protect

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Post by Dutchgirl 19.06.15 19:39

http://home.bt.com/news/kate-mccann-finishes-charity-bike-ride-with-madeleine-on-her-mind-91363987332696
again grinning from ear to ear.  Her daughter was abducted by paedos and (pg127 of her fairytale) yet can still smile.  The audacity of this woman is unfathomable.
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Post by worriedmum 19.06.15 22:40

If the ambassador of the charity concerned and the mother of the most high profile missing child case ever goes on television and says that 'this won't help Madeleine',

AM I ALLOWED TO ASK WHAT SHE MEANS?
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Post by tigger 20.06.15 6:07

Ladyinred wrote:
tigger wrote:Judy Finnigan on Radio5 live -  around 14.30 - 14.50 on McCann, PdL etc. warbling on about the terrible abduction.  Perhaps possible to listen again? 

What is it with the news? Sun with ten children 'found' by Kate. Plus sugary article. 

Is this a big PR push?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b05yl3xf#auto

Thank you, surely the wee man second from right isn't brother John?

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Post by Amy Dean 20.06.15 10:28

John McCann did take part in this event, Tigger.
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Post by G-Unit 24.06.15 10:37

It seems to me that this event was for publicity, not for fund raising. The registration fees of £199 wouldn't cover the costs of the event, so some of the minimum of £2,000 must be to pay RidetoRaise. The type of hotel they stayed in would cost around £50 bed and breakfast. Lunch perhaps £10 and dinner £20. So £ 80 per day per rider. Fuel for one support car to Edinburgh and back around £ 200. Minimum of two RidetoRaise staff accompanying, who wouldn't be paying their own expenses.

Looking just at those I have found there was Team Mccann of three plus the CIL team of six and another team of four. Add two RidetoRaise staff, the cost would be £6,200. In addition the two staff were probably paid, plus there would be a charge for the police escort over London Bridge, cost of spares, some charge for depreciation on the car and a profit for RidetoRaise. Say £1,500 as a very conservative estimate. 

Total cost £7,700. Total registration Fees £199 x 13 = £2,587. Costs to deduct from Funds raised £5,113.  

Team McCann (KM, JM & FW) have raised £16,056 of a £14,000 target (of course they're experts)
Team CIL have raised £5,060 of a £9,000 target (if they don't meet the minimum charities have been known to chase people for the money)

Team of 4 have raised £7163 of a £8,000 target.

Total raised to date £28,279 plus gift aid approx £6,787=£35,066

I think I saw somewhere that £40,000 was raised for Missing People. If so, I suspect that was before RidetoRaise were paid.

Apologies if my figures are out, I have a terrible calculator and need a new one (anyone care to start a justgiving page for me ha ha)
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Post by willowthewisp 24.06.15 11:06

Gunit
So twenty people took part in the event at £199.00 cost per person and raised £40,000.00-4000.00=£36,000.00 for missing people charity, chief ex's BMW down payment.? notme
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Post by Doug D 24.06.15 11:20

G Unit:
 
‘The type of hotel they stayed in would cost around £50 bed and breakfast.’
 
And the rest!
 
Park Inn, York which is where KM did her TV bit from, cheapest B&B is £98 per night and that’s the ‘economy’ room.
 
Dinner, bed & breakfast £138.00
 
Might get a bit off for a bulk booking, or if they slummed it sharing rooms, but probably ‘zlebs’ would want their own rooms, if not ‘better’ more expensive ones, with a river view!
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Post by Guest 24.06.15 11:23

@ G Unit, there was also the cost of hiring The Orchard Room at the Tower of London (World Heritage Site), plus refreshments, for the reception.

I don't know the cost, I did look on the website a few weeks ago but no info was provided.
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