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Joao Cipriano, murderer of his niece Joana Cipriano, allowed out of jail to spend Easter in the Portuguese spring sun

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Joao Cipriano, murderer of his niece Joana Cipriano, allowed out of jail to spend Easter in the Portuguese spring sun

Post by Tony Bennett on 12.04.15 14:38

How very lovely for him.

Just over 9 years after Dr Goncalo Amaral and his fellow detectives secured the conviction of him and his sister Leonor for the brutal murder of Leonor Cipriano's 8-year-old daughter Joana, he was allowed out of jail on parole and has now been enjoying the Easter sunshine at home.

What a shame that little Joana didn't live to enjoy the same Easter sunshine. She would be 19 years old now:

QUOTE ALGARVE RESIDENT

by NATASHA DONN natasha.donn@algarveresident.com

The uncle of eight-year-old Joana Cipriano - the child who “disappeared without trace” from her home in Figueira, near Portimão, in 2004 - is already enjoying “conditional release” from Sintra’s Carregueira jail.
According to press reports, his first release took place over Easter and saw the man, condemned for killing his niece and supposedly cutting her body up and feeding it to pigs, spend the holiday back in his native village.

João Cipriano was convicted in a convoluted case that saw both him and his sister, Joana’s mother, confess and then deny involvement in the barbaric crime.

Both have now served half of their 16-year jail terms, and both are thus eligible for these “conditional releases” that usually take place over weekends and holidays.

Ironically, after having admitted killing Joana and hiding her body, Cipriano’s subsequent retraction of his guilty statement led to delays in granting him these periodic trips from jail.

Lisbon’s penalties court ruled that he “did not demonstrate empathy for his victim”.

Meantime, in 2013 Joana’s mother was handed an extra seven months on her jail sentence for the “false declarations” she made over injuries received while in custody.

Claiming she had been tortured by police, Leonor Cipriano’s false declarations implicated a number of detectives, including former chief investigator in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, Gonçalo Amaral.

But as Amaral’s former wife Sofia Leal revealed years later, her husband is one of the few people who annually pause to remember little Joana on the day she is thought to have been murdered, September 12.

Amaral is understood to [have held] a mass for the child “because no one will ever remember her again”, said Leal.

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I think there might be a slight error in the story because IIRC in what I am sure was an authentic full confession by Joao Cipriano, he stated that he had cut up Joana's little body, put it in an old car, and sent the car to a car-crushing company based in Spain - to remove all forensic trace of her forever.   

For a reminder for those who don't know the facts, Joana was unfortunate enough, on returning from an errand, to find her mother and uncle in bed together, engaged in an act of incest. As Joana tried to escape from the wrath of the pair, she got as far as the front door - where a forensic team found imprints and DNA showing that she tried to cling on to the front door jamb in a frantic attempt to escape from the evil pair - sadly she failed, as her murdering mother and uncle successfully yanked her back in, bludgeoned her to death, and then calmly sawed her lifeless body into pieces. 

For good measure, two days later Leonor Cipriano claimed 'abduction', pit out posters of her ,and got the entire country to look for her and her abductor.

The pair were sentenced to the very light punishment of 16 years in jail.

More background reading: 

1. The 63 facts found proved that demonstrate that Leonor Cipriano and her brother Joao were correctly found guilty of Joana’s murder

http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t5112-joana-cipriano-3-the-63-facts-found-proved-by-the-portuguese-appeal-court-when-confirming-the-long-jail-sentences-of-leonor-and-joao-cipriano

2. An account of the convictions of Leonor and Joao Cipriano for the murder of Joana

http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t5102-an-account-of-the-conviction-of-leonor-and-joao-cipriano-for-the-murder-of-joana-cipriano  

3. Pro’s support child murderer Leonor Ciprianio

http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t3792-the-pro-s-support-child-murderer-cipriano

4. Mark Williams-Thomas

http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t7547-the-mark-williams-thomas-thread


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SOME POINTS TO CONSIDER

1. Both Ciprianos made full, voluntary confessions

2. They lied and claimed abduction

3. The mainstream British press to this day continues to suggest that the Ciprianos were beaten and tortured into making false confessions

4. Leonor Cipriano lied about being tortured by Dr Goncalo Amral and his fellow detectives and is serving an extra jail term for her lies (see above)

5. Despite these lies, the dodgy Madeira lawyer Marcos Aragao Correia secured a criminal conviction of Dr Amaral, allegedly for filing a false report on her detention in custody

6. The pretentious impostor, Mark Williams-Thomas, the self-professed 'criminologist' and supposed expert on child sexual abuse, claimed that Joana Cipriano and Madeleine McCann were probably both abducted by predatory paedophiles and that both Leonor Cipriano and the McCanns were innocent (MWT also claimed that the evidence was that she had 'wandered off'. If any twp cases illustrate that no-one should listen to the rubbish spouted by MWT, then Joana Cipriano and Madeleine McCann are surely those two) 

7. To this day, McCann-support groups like 'Stop the Myths' and 'Just A Thought You Know' continue to peddle the lie that Leonor Cipriano (and her brother) are innocent

8. PORTUGUESE JUSTICE: They can let the brutal killer of a defenceless 8-year-old out on the streets after 9 years...

...but after 6 years still cannot agree to find innocent the very detective who put this brutal killer in prison and whose 'crime' has been to write a book giving chapter and verse about a broadly similar case

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Re: Joao Cipriano, murderer of his niece Joana Cipriano, allowed out of jail to spend Easter in the Portuguese spring sun

Post by Nina on 12.04.15 17:23

Tony, I understand that he is not on parole but is allowed out of prison for a family visit after having served half of his sentence. Usually Easter or Christmas for only a few days. Then he returns back to jail. This applies to all prisoners apart from terrorists.

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Post by PeterMac on 12.04.15 22:26

And wasn't there a hint of a suggestion that the McCann team had been involved in persuading the lawyer to suborn Leonora to give the perjured evidence in an attempt to "bring down" Dr Amaral . . .
I may have mis-remembered, of course !

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Post by Tony Bennett on 12.04.15 22:40

@PeterMac wrote:And wasn't there a hint of a suggestion that the McCann team had been involved in persuading the lawyer to suborn Leonora to give the perjured evidence in an attempt to "bring down" Dr Amaral...

I may have mis-remembered, of course !
On 8 April 2008, the Madeira lawyer Marcos Aragao Correia marched into Odemira Women's Prison by prior arrangement with the Prison Governor.

Whilst there, he met the murderess-of-her-own-daughter Leonor Cipriano and a deal was done for him to represent her in criminal proceedings against Dr Amaral and four other detectives - for allegdly torturing her into making a false confession.

It was agreed by all that this secret deal for Correia to take over the case from another lawyer would be kept secret until the day the trial began in October 2008.  And they did keep it secret! - much to the consternation of Leonor Cipriano's former lawyer who arrived at Court knowing nothing about this underhand deal. 

As the loose-lipped Correia later admitted to a journalist, he was paid by Metodo 3 and McCann Team member Brian Kennedy to represent Cipriano in order to try and get a guilty verdict against Amaral. (He was also paid by them to search for Madeleine's bones in the Arade Dam, but that's a whole other story).

Later, when the detectives were found 'Not Guilty' of torture - but Dr Goncal Amaral and one other detective were handed an 18-month suspended prison sentence for allegedly filing a false report - he exulted on the Court steps: "The Target Was Hit!"

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The fury and vitriol of McCann-supporters when confronted with the facts about the murder of Joana Cipriano - EXPOSED

Post by Tony Bennett on 14.04.15 9:58

This thread has attracted especial fury from one of the most notorious McCann-supporter websites.

They never like the facts about the murder of 8-year-old Joana Cipriano to be published (please see extracts from the Portuguese Supreme Court's decision on the crimimal case below). Below I publish just some of the comments made in the last three days on that particular forum.

Let it be fully and clearly noted that the list of those who believe that Leonor and Joao Cipriano are innocent of Joana's murder, that they were tortured into making false confessions and that Joana really was abducted by a stranger include:

1. The McCanns
2. The entire McCann Team
3. McCann-supporters and McCann-supporting websites, forums and blogs
4. The entire British mainstream press - whenever they have reported on the case - and, last but not least
5. The notorious poseur and first-choice commentator on child sexual abuse crimes for Rupert Murtdoch's SKY News, the man who had to leave Surrey Police under a cloud, Mark Williams-Thomas.

Before reproducing the McCann-supporting bile, let me quote some extracts from a poster here, 'mira2', who clearly knew a very great deal about the case and who is, I am sure, Portuguese. Here's part of his/her post from Jun 2012:

QUOTE mira2

WE know for a fact that the dynamics of this family [Cipriona] is a horror story that went far beyond the Joana story, WE know that Joana was not the only victim in that family - she had siblings who were victims too, their stories cannot be told because they were lucky enough to be rescued ALIVE and adopted by suitable families.

What is interesting here is the fact that McCann Inc. felt that linking Madeleine and Joana was a good marketing ploy in their defence tactic.


Let's face it Kate McCann wants to compare herself with Joana's Mum? Two peas in a pod or what?


Tony, the problem with the British Press is that it is not fit for practice. The red tape involved in recruiting in the media whether it be news outlets or TV stations, ensures that only the brain-dead get selected, and even then the contract they have to sign ensures that they never veer from the mantra that is deemed acceptable across the board.


There are still good independent journalists out there, but they are few and far between, they have a conscience, for them it is not about the money.


Is it any wonder that the kids out there today have resorted to looting and wild west gangsta me 'kill him before he kill me', rather than engage with the nonsense that is going on in Whitehall.


END QUOTE

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NOW HERE IS SOME OF THE VITRIOLIC BILE FRIM 'JATYK':

* If the supposed 'evidence' against the Ciprianos had been put before a US or UK prosecutor, it would have been thrown out. The case would never have made it to court.

* How on earth did I manage to miss this? Bennett is telling terrible lies about the case, again. Made me feel quite ill.

* Bennett's problem is that lying, again, is not going to change reality, Sabot. But that never stops him being Outraged when reality fails to match whatever he's been lying about.

* I've just read that vomit-inducing liefest Bennett has quoted, written by none other than the forkers' pet ex-pat churnalist 'Natasha Donn' aka Harry_Lime of the Hounders.

* You have no idea how I pray for the serious downfall of Amaral. That vile, little, not so fat now, man has caused so much misery to so many, almost certainly innocent people, not including The McCanns. Everybody knows that they are innocent.

* Interestingly enough, without any admission of guilt, Jaoa Cipriano went back to The Village. So they obviously don't think he is guilty.


* Bennett will burn in hell for that lot.

* How does someone [Bennett] grow up that twisted? I just don't understand that.

* I simply do not care what's wrong with them, that they are so twisted, and eager to believe any old lie if it suits their cause.

* They really do make a mockery of the truth.

* They're as scared of the truth as any lying politician, Lily. If they were as concerned as they pretend about genuine justice, they would be demanding this case be retried.

* Interesting, is it not, that they all cling to the tabloid ghoulery invented by Team Gonzo and leaked to rags like CdM? They ignore the fact that that was all thrown out of court, leaving nothing that would win a conviction in a country with a less lynch mobbing approach to high-profile crimes.


* We know that that lot support criminals. Look at the list of them who have joined their cause. Heaven knows how many more will be made known.

* You make an extremely good point in that
they should be demanding a retrial [of the Ciprianos], but no, not they.

* Goes to show what upstanding citizens they all are...NOT.


* The Gonzo fan club should be demanding a retrial, Lily, to clear up all those questions about the 'investigation' that just won't go away, and prove their idol is indeed Number One Supercop.

* But they don't, they threaten and smear anyone that questions the ghoulish nonsense they claim is 'evidence'. They ignore the fact that all that was thrown out of court, that one of the judges wanted the whole case thrown out.

* They also ignore the fact that the locals don't think the Ciprianos are guilty.

* They choose, instead, to believe every word of the garbage that vested interests planted in rags like CartofMuck [Correia da Manha].


* They really show themselves up for what they are. Vile thick forkers.

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THE MURDER OF JOANA CIPRIANO: THE FACTS

And here once again are some extracts from the factual findings of the Portuguese Supreme Court in the case - apologies for the Google translation, but if you persist, you will understand the sequence of events described - the murder of Joana, the hiding of the body, the the fabrication of an abduction - solved by Dr Goncalo Amaral and his colleagues - the full judgment is at this link:

http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t5112-joana-cipriano-3-the-63-facts-found-proved-by-the-portuguese-appeal-court-when-confirming-the-long-jail-sentences-of-leonor-and-joao-cipriano

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AA = Joao Cipriano
BB = Leonor Cipriano
CC = Joana Cipriano

s) on the first day of classes in the lower DC Primary School Figueira, in the academic year 2003/2004, the defendant did not follow the BB to the lower school, having come to DC with a neighbor, who asked not to help find way;

t) from another time, it led to lower neighbor to the hospital, at a time when it was visible being sick with a bad cough;

u) at dawn on September 12, 2004, the defendant AA, after having incompatibilizado UU with his brother, was raised to BB's house, carrying her clothes, and by day 12, remained in the house, situated in the village of Figueira - Mexilhoeira Grande, in Portimão area of
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this region;

v) in the late afternoon of that day 12 returned home to his sister, the defendant BB, and the children of this, CC, JJ and KK;

x) at about 20 pm that day on September 12, the defendant sent the BB CC purchase a carton of milk and two cans at an establishment called "Pastry ...", located in Figueira, about 420 meters from the house ;

z) the room of the house where the defendant resided BB, is located immediately after the entrance into the house and the door which gives access to the street has a handle on the outside that allows immediate entry to the residence;

aa) the smallest CC returned home coming "Pastry ...", where he had purchased the food mentioned above;

ab) at any given time, for reasons not specifically determined, both defendants began together to give repeated blows to the head of the lower CC, leading her to hit her head on the corner of the wall, which is visible bleeding from the mouth nose and temple, thanks to the wall of conflicts, which also caused the collapse of the lower and death, then stopping the activity of the defendants;

ac) were the smallest traces of blood on the walls and floor of the room in various places, and also near the entrance;

ad) the accused made sure of the death of CC, verifying that did not breathe or react and then not wanting to be blamed for the death of his daughter and niece, decided to prevent any such death was known to others;

ae) well, soon decided they had to make was not found in the house that there are any signs of what had just finished practice, the lower body was never found and that, preferably, be created in the belief that all the least would have been taken by others;

af) therefore, the defendant was in BB house, washing the wall and floor where there were signs of blood DC, and the place where the minor was dropped after death, using either a mop bucket and its;

ag), and as they knew that the companion of defendant BB - II - and this friend, MM, were about to get home and can find out what had happened if there came to be cleared before the remains at about 21h 30m AA left the defendant, addressing the "Pastry ....", where he met with the II and MM, who were already there, and who said that the smaller CC had not returned home;

ah) when the three returned home, the defendant BB had already cleaned the bloodstains found there, and also noted that the smaller CC had not returned home after making purchases;

ai) compared to that by the defendant, the MM II and decided to go look for the smallest, while the defendants were in the house;

aj) then decided the defendants, jointly cut the lower body to allow the same store in freezer of your room; to achieve that goal, the defendants muniram up a knife and a saw to cut metal that were in housing, tools able to get the results they wanted, in the span of about 30 minutes;

al) with such tools, helping each other, the defendants cut the body of the CC, separating the head from the trunk and cutting the legs by the knee area;

an) bits of each body was placed in bags of plastic - in the head, trunk, and in another part of the legs and the two legs below the knees in a third - and after they have a node at the opening of the bag containing the head , tried at least three bags in place such freezer compartments, leaving the smaller blood in various parts of the interior of the second drawer cabinet;

ao) the defendants did not put the shoes that had the smallest shoe bags, having stayed home all pairs of shoes that used the least that summer;

ap) for the lowest ever be dead for about two hours, the body has not left much blood;

aq) between 22h 30m and 23h, the defendant joined the BB II and MM companion, to whom reiterated that the CC had disappeared, and only then moved to "Pastry ....." and asked the owner (NN) if the CC had been there, saying after she had disappeared;

ar) however, the defendant informed of anything the police, despite the GNR military service in Figueira, since there arose a popular festival called "Festival of the Cockle," was the third person (NN) that did, telephone, 0h and 44m for the September 13, when he learned that the defendant had not done yet, and as a result of the aforementioned phone call, the defendant ended up talking to the GNR elements of Figueira near the church;

as) at the time the defendant said he had not phoned for not having money in the phone;

at) later, at about 2 am, the defendant bought cakes at a bakery located in the same locality;

au) on the morning of the 13th, the defendant went to the BB Tour GNR in Lagos, accompanied by the defendant AA, where he lodged a complaint with the disappearance of CC;

av) and third party intervention, family II of his companion, began to be truly widespread the alleged 'disappearance' and distributed photographs of the CC, because until then the defendants had intended not to alert the authorities;

ax) in the late evening of day 13, the defendants left the house together, taking a bag;

az) AA the defendant remained at the home of defendant BB to 14 days, length of time during which the two defendants, so that was not possible to determine, transported the remains of CC to an unknown location, thereby giving effect to the intention who had proposed - to prevent the location of those remains - even today it is not located such remains as were not located the cutting tools used, the defendants hid in unknown location;

aaa) the defendant BB gave interviews to the media, trying to make believe that he had actually gone lower, version before that held many of the people who were interested in the fate of smaller and questioned about the matter;

aab) in these interviews about the case the defendant BB sometimes spoke of her daughter in the past and was wearing black blouse;

aac) ticks, including so-called "pellets" (ticks in its early adulthood) have receivers chemical stimuli associated with the temperature which allow them to detect the existence of the own chemical components of blood;

aad) in 18.9 days, the defendant BB acquired oil and a mop of steel, which washed the house, taking advantage to erase almost all signs of what had occurred there, leaving only traces of human blood inside the house, contaminated the products used…



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Re: Joao Cipriano, murderer of his niece Joana Cipriano, allowed out of jail to spend Easter in the Portuguese spring sun

Post by Richard IV on 14.04.15 10:36

"This thread has attracted especial fury from one of the most notorious McCann-supporter websites."


Has it occurred to you that the malefic little demons on that website have now attracted your fury and probably that of other readers.  IMO it increases evil to bring attention to it.  Don`t feed it.  Ignore it.  Demons cannot survive without attention.  They`ve sucked you into their space. 

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No 'fury'

Post by Tony Bennett on 14.04.15 10:46

@Richard IV wrote:"This thread has attracted especial fury from one of the most notorious McCann-supporter websites."

Has it occurred to you that the malefic little demons on that website have now attracted your fury...?
Er, no.

And that's because all this thread is about is a reminder to members and guests here (many of whom may not know much about the Joana Cipriano case) about just what really happened in that case.

Actually, I am not in any way furious, @ Richard IV - my post was simply a matter of informing viewers here of how the McCann-supporting side still maintain the innocence of the vile pair who killed Joana.

And by putting up 'mira2's post from 2012, I added information about the entire vile Cipriano family from someone who knows about them much better than any of us here.

I am simply and calmly sharing the truth about this case to fellow-members here - and pointing out how the McCann-side loathe the terrible truth about the Cipriano case being made public.

No-one has suckered me into anything

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Post by plebgate on 14.04.15 10:52

Vile posts indeed.

I can only believe that those posters could be being paid or are close to the family.

Why don't they demand a re-trial if they believe so vehemently that an injustice has occured?  hmmmmm.

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Post by Richard IV on 14.04.15 11:21

@Tony Bennett wrote:
@Richard IV wrote:"This thread has attracted especial fury from one of the most notorious McCann-supporter websites."

Has it occurred to you that the malefic little demons on that website have now attracted your fury...?
Er, no.

And that's because all this thread is about is a reminder to members and guests here (many of whom may not know much about the Joana Cipriano case) about just what really happened in that case.

Actually, I am not in any way furious, @ Richard IV - my post was simply a matter of informing viewers here of how the McCann-supporting side still maintain the innocence of the vile pair who killed Joana.

And by putting up 'mira2's post from 2012, I added information about the entire vile Cipriano family from someone who knows about them much better than any of us here.

I am simply and calmly sharing the truth about this case to fellow-members here - and pointing out how the McCann-side loathe the terrible truth about the Cipriano case being made public.

No-one has suckered me into anything
Fair dos - I just have the opinion its best not to give evil a platform, but I understand where you`re coming from and accept there is an argument for exposure.

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Post by PeterMac on 14.04.15 13:27

Are these the same people who believe that making grossly depraved images of young women drowning in swamps, or being sucked their death in quicksand is perfectly OK ?
Or that wishing to make a full "snuff movie" is a laudable aim ?
By extension we might also suspect that they believe that abandoning children is OK
And again by extension, do they also support Incest ?
Child abuse ?
Hounding Old Age Pensioners to their death ?
It seems they may well stand for all these values.
I think we should be told.

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