Re: Is the 'Find Madeleine' website down?

by String 28.12.14 20:48

Same problem as previously- http://guides.yoosecurity.com/securepaynet-net-redirect-removal/

by canada12 28.12.14 21:03

String wrote:Same problem as previously- http://guides.yoosecurity.com/securepaynet-net-redirect-removal/

Ah, so their website has been hacked?
Can they blame it on the North Koreans...? :-D

by **sharonl** 28.12.14 21:07

ultimaThule wrote:
sharonl wrote:
PeterMac wrote:Perhaps they have found her

Or the cost of maintaining the site now outweighs the income from it.

Other than ~~emptying~~ checking the tills on a weekly basis and adding a new message 2/3 times a year, how much maintenance does it need - or is that a 'how long is a piece of string' question, sharonl?

Even if it requires taking care of 24/7, surely there'd be no shortage of volunteers among the senders of the sacks of Christmas cards from ~~two~~ well-wishers that are delivered to the Towers from around the globe?

I would agree with you 100% there but remember how much they claim to have paid for just setting this basic site up. £37,000 to Callum Macrae, a student of Aunty Phils'. They could have got that done for free given the circumstances (if they were true), or at the most, for a few hundred pounds. The McCanns need someone that they can trust completely to run this site, could that trust be costing them?

by canada12 28.12.14 21:13

String wrote:Same problem as previously- http://guides.yoosecurity.com/securepaynet-net-redirect-removal/

I don't have the securepaynet virus or malware or whatever it is on my computer - I checked.
The page displayed is like a splash page that was deliberately put there.
Is it possible the webbo's have decided to make it look like they've been hacked rather than just make the site disappear?

by canada12 28.12.14 21:36

Eh-oh. It's up again.
http://www.findmadeleine.com/
This time with just the Christmas message.
And then you can click on the Home page and get back to all the original stuff.
Someone must have been paying attention :-)

by whatsupdoc 29.12.14 7:59

Here's the home page...

http://www.findmadeleine.com/home.html

by **PeterMac** 29.12.14 8:20

canada12 wrote:
This time with just the Christmas message. . .
Someone must have been paying attention :-)

I doubt it, or they would have had another go at the grammar and syntax, and made it intelligible.
They could also have concentrated on Madeleine, rather than on themselves, but over the last 7 years we have learned to expect this.

by aiyoyo 29.12.14 10:02

Why do we continue?
There is absolutely nothing to suggest that Madeleine has been harmed.
Madeleine is still missing and someone needs to be looking for her.
She is very young and vulnerable and needs our help.
We love her dearly and miss her beyond words.
- See more at: http://www.findmadeleine.com/home.html#sthash.h3IsNw2d.dpuf

Unbelievable!
They're still claiming she has not met any harm, despite the MET Police's proclaimation to the contrary ie that likely she did not leave the apartment alive, and despite the dig (for the body).

by **PeterMac** 29.12.14 11:01

aiyoyo wrote:
Why do we continue?
There is absolutely nothing to suggest that Madeleine has been harmed.
Madeleine is still missing and someone needs to be looking for her.
She is very young and vulnerable and needs our help.
We love her dearly and miss her beyond words.
- See more at: http://www.findmadeleine.com/home.html#sthash.h3IsNw2d.dpuf

Unbelievable!
They're still claiming she has not met any harm, despite the MET Police's proclaimation to the contrary ie that likely she did not leave the apartment alive, and despite the dig (for the body).

In what parallel McUniverse do predatory Paedo***s NOT cause harm to their victims. That is for me one of the most disturbing things about their pronouncements.
They surely are not of the mind-set which holds that it is OK ! Even Kate's kiddy-porn page in her book acknowledges that harm would occur

by jeanmonroe 29.12.14 13:04

'Madeleine is still missing and someone needs to be looking for her.'
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'SOMEONE'! (needs to be 'looking')

But NOT 'ANYONE' from either of the McCann/Healy 'families' or ANY of the McCann's T9 'friends'!

But 'SOMEONE'! ('else')
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That is for me one of the most disturbing things about their pronouncements.

"WE AIN'T LOOKING"! "WE NEVER HAVE!" "WE'RE FAR TOO PRECIOUS"!

"WE AIN'T LOOKING, BECAUSE, WE KNOW EXACTLY WHERE SHE IS!"?

thinking

by aiyoyo 30.12.14 6:46

PeterMac wrote:
aiyoyo wrote:
Why do we continue?
There is absolutely nothing to suggest that Madeleine has been harmed.
Madeleine is still missing and someone needs to be looking for her.
She is very young and vulnerable and needs our help.
We love her dearly and miss her beyond words.
- See more at: http://www.findmadeleine.com/home.html#sthash.h3IsNw2d.dpuf

Unbelievable!
They're still claiming she has not met any harm, despite the MET Police's proclamation to the contrary ie that likely she did not leave the apartment alive, and despite the dig (for the body).

In what parallel McUniverse do predatory Paedo***s NOT cause harm to their victims. That is for me one of the most disturbing things about their pronouncements.
They surely are not of the mind-set which holds that it is OK ! Even Kate's kiddy-porn page in her book acknowledges that harm would occur

This month marks our fourth Christmas without Madeleine. We hope with all our hearts that wherever she is, she is safe and well and whoever may be with her is treating her with the love and respect she so deserves.

In McKate's universe the abductor-paedo****s treat their victims with love and respect the victims so deserve..... never mind they were abusing the victims in parallel time.

Kate, in spite of her kiddy-porn page acknowledging harm would occur, happens also to believe with all her heart that her daughter is well and safe in the hands of her predatory paedo****.

That for me suggests Kate is so mentally unbalanced she needs to be certified.

by Joss 30.12.14 9:52

aiyoyo wrote:
PeterMac wrote:
aiyoyo wrote:
Why do we continue?
There is absolutely nothing to suggest that Madeleine has been harmed.
Madeleine is still missing and someone needs to be looking for her.
She is very young and vulnerable and needs our help.
We love her dearly and miss her beyond words.
- See more at: http://www.findmadeleine.com/home.html#sthash.h3IsNw2d.dpuf

Unbelievable!
They're still claiming she has not met any harm, despite the MET Police's proclamation to the contrary ie that likely she did not leave the apartment alive, and despite the dig (for the body).

In what parallel McUniverse do predatory Paedo***s NOT cause harm to their victims. That is for me one of the most disturbing things about their pronouncements.
They surely are not of the mind-set which holds that it is OK ! Even Kate's kiddy-porn page in her book acknowledges that harm would occur

This month marks our fourth Christmas without Madeleine. We hope with all our hearts that wherever she is, she is safe and well and whoever may be with her is treating her with the love and respect she so deserves.

In McKate's universe the abductor-paedo****s treat their victims with love and respect the victims so deserve..... never mind they were abusing the victims in parallel time.

Kate, in spite of her kiddy-porn page acknowledging harm would occur, happens also to believe with all her heart that her daughter is well and safe in the hands of her predatory paedo****.

That for me suggests Kate is so mentally unbalanced she needs to be certified.

I agree, it's definitely the sign of a mental problem if that is what K.McC thinks. Out of touch with reality for sure. And the fact she doesn't even realize what those words imply.

by Rogue-a-Tory 30.12.14 11:46

The advice for if you see Madeleine is completely up the duff

If you think you see Madeleine:

1)      Report to the local police IMMEDIATELY !!
( Please use link to get the police emergency number for the country you are visiting before you leave.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_telephone_number#Europe
2)      Is there CCTV at the location? Ask for it to be retained.
3)      Did the individuals purchase anything (electronic payment) - thereby leaving a 'footprint'?
4)      Did they leave in a vehicle? Try to take registration details.
5)      If possible, discreetly take video or photo evidence to be examined by the police.

If I see Madeleine this is what I'll do

If anyone like me sees Madeleine:

1)      Report it immediately to Sky News, Daily Mirror, Daily Mail, BBC News 24 in that order
2)      Delete mobile phone records.
3) Lose all digital pictures & any cameras.
4)      Discreetly do nothing then contact local police at a time that suits.
5) Draw up 3 timelines of what happened before sighting, then get on knees & pray.

by Rogue-a-Tory 30.12.14 11:53

BTW, what should a TM supporter do if they have sighting outside of Europe, say in Brazil?

by Guest 30.12.14 13:26

Rogue-a-Tory wrote:BTW, what should a TM supporter do if they have sighting outside of Europe, say in Brazil?

Get hold of R Bigg's lawyer.

by **PeterMac** 30.12.14 15:29

Joss wrote:
I agree, it's definitely the sign of a mental problem if that is what K.McC thinks. Out of touch with reality for sure. And the fact she doesn't even realize what those words imply.

She not only does not realise what the words imply, but they are clearly so far out of touch with normal human contact that they have invited no one to proof read it.
Firsty to correct the grammar and clean up the syntax,
but secondly to tell them bluntly what normal people will think of what they have said and the way they have said it.
Do they have no articulate friends ?

by Joss 30.12.14 15:44

PeterMac wrote:
Joss wrote:
I agree, it's definitely the sign of a mental problem if that is what K.McC thinks. Out of touch with reality for sure. And the fact she doesn't even realize what those words imply.

She not only does not realise what the words imply, but they are clearly so far out of touch with normal human contact that they have invited no one to proof read it.
Firsty to correct the grammar and clean up the syntax,
but secondly to tell them bluntly what normal people will think of what they have said and the way they have said it.
Do they have no articulate friends ?

Exactly, and it sure seems as if no one does advise them of the content of their ramblings. It is the same thing with K.McC's book she produced, like WTF was she thinking in writing some of that stuff for public consumption? Although on the other hand it does give us some insight into the characters in this fiasco and it's all very telling.

by **Hobs** 30.12.14 15:44

Why do we continue?
There is absolutely nothing to suggest that Madeleine has been harmed.
Madeleine is still missing and someone needs to be looking for her.
She is very young and vulnerable and needs our help.
We love her dearly and miss her beyond words.

Absolutely is a qualifier , a word that when removed, doesn't change the meaning of the sentence.
Here they claim there is absolutely nothing to suggest Madeleine has been harmed.
This is a blatant lie since we have the reaction of the cadaver dogs in the apartment and hire and to items of clothing and cuddlecat.
We also have the presence of blood and body fluids in the apartment as well as her DNA in the hire car.
Blood which would cause an innocent parent to fear their child was injured.
Body fluids which would also cause an innocent parent to not only fear their child had been injured but would also cause them the terror of wondering if their child had been killed and if they had suffered.

Instead we have them coming up with implausible explanations for why blood and body fluids and DNA were found from nosebleeds, to sweaty sandals, rotting meat, fish, dirty diapers and kate dealing with several corpses before the vacation.

Firstly Madeleine was harmed simply by being removed from her family.
Secondly, they claim absolutely no evidence of harm despite acknowledging the blood and body fluids and DNA in the hire car by coming up with explanations

We then have them telling us SOMEONE needs to be looking for her.
This is telling in that they they don't say they (WE) need to be looking for her.
The onus is not on the parents to keep looking instead it is on the wider world to look.
Someone needs excludes themselves which is unexpected.
Why would they not need to be looking for their daughter?

Is it because they know where she is and thus they do not need to look?
Is it because looking for her would result in consequences to them?
If she were found dead and they were innocent, there would be no consequences to them, they would be able to give her a dignified burial and be allowed to grieve.
If however she were found dead and they were guilty, then there would be consequences.
it would explain their passivity and non urgency in relation to searching.
It would also explain their non co-operation and rampant litigation.

The finding of Maddie brings consequences to the mccanns and probably the tapas 7 as well , along with clarrie for perverting the course of justice and obstruction.

Thirdly they tell us she is young and vulnerable and needs their help.
Yet they have done everything in their power not to help.
They refused to cooperate with the police.
Refused to answer 48 questions - kate
Refused to take part in a police reconstruction via the tapas 7 setting so many demands and restrictions it was not possible for it to take place.
Ran back to the UK as soon as they were made arguidos and promptly hired high class and expensive extradition lawyers.
Sued or threatened to sue anyone who didn't agree with their version of events.
If that is them helping, i would hate to see what their hindering would be like.

Finally We love her dearly and miss her beyond words.
Actions speak stronger than words.
If they love and miss her so much, why have they done everything they can to hinder and obstruct the investigation?

by **PeterMac** 30.12.14 17:23

Joss wrote:
Exactly, and it sure seems as if no one does advise them of the content of their ramblings. It is the same thing with K.McC's book she produced, like WTF was she thinking in writing some of that stuff for public consumption? Although on the other hand it does give us some insight into the characters in this fiasco and it's all very telling.

But they are lawyered up to the hilt.
SOMEONE MUST have proof read the book. Even her own Sainted husband surely had a quick look and as someone used to seeing the importance of details in ECGs would realise that some of it just doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

He can tell what is wrong with you from this sort of thing.
Is the 'Find Madeleine' website down? - Page 1 Pulmonary_embolism_ECG

Is the 'Find Madeleine' website down? - Page 1 Pulmonary_embolism_ECG

He deals in details.
p. 129 would surely have alerted him to the likelihood of opprobrium and despite
"Whooshing curtains" would surely have alerted him to the possibility that someone would check the weather conditions and might also have a look at the first statement about the curtains being "Wide Open"

by Liz Eagles 30.12.14 22:18

Ms Martorell said in the court that she hadn't read the book.

There's a video somewhere that shows Gerry saying he hadn't read the book (prior to publication) either.

So there you go, top lawyer and father of Madeleine didn't read Kate's bewk.

by **PeterMac** 30.12.14 22:26

aquila wrote:Ms Martorell said in the court that she hadn't read the book.
There's a video somewhere that shows Gerry saying he hadn't read the book (prior to publication) either.
So there you go, top lawyer and father of Madeleine didn't read Kate's bewk.

And to that I reply, to all of them

Is the 'Find Madeleine' website down? - Page 1 Talking-bollocks

by Liz Eagles 30.12.14 22:48

Here's K&G sitting on Lorraine Kelly's sofa for the book launch. I find the choice of all photographs weird but maybe that's just me.

Lorraine is doing her normal sycophantic non-interview.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=v223wFIwq0E

by maebee 30.12.14 23:22

aquila wrote:Here's K&G sitting on Lorraine Kelly's sofa for the book launch. I find the choice of all photographs weird but maybe that's just me.

Lorraine is doing her normal sycophantic non-interview.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=v223wFIwq0E

Thanks for this aquila. I hadn't seen it before. I got as far as 0.55 when when Lorraine McKelly said that in July 2008 K&G were cleared of ANY involvement. I presume the rest of it was rubbish.

by Liz Eagles 30.12.14 23:23

maebee wrote:
aquila wrote:Here's K&G sitting on Lorraine Kelly's sofa for the book launch. I find the choice of all photographs weird but maybe that's just me.

Lorraine is doing her normal sycophantic non-interview.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=v223wFIwq0E

Thanks for this aquila. I hadn't seen it before. I got as far as 0.55 when when Lorraine McKelly said that in July 2008 K&G were cleared of ANY involvement. I presume the rest of it was rubbish.

Oh don't give up so soon. Watch it all. It's a masterclass in PR. It covers all bases.

by **PeterMac** 24.01.15 11:18

Is it me, or has the photofit of Smithman and all the others been taken down ?
Thumbnails of Tannerman, Beckham-woman and pimple man still scrolling through.but that

If you think you see Madeleine:

If anyone like me sees Madeleine:

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