Re: LAST DAY OF LIBEL TRIAL 8th July 2014 DISCUSSION AND NEWS

by sallypelt 08.07.14 13:36

candyfloss wrote:binarybox ‏@whatsupdoc2007 4 mins
@janeymack1 @RothleyPillow Finished for today but Thursday has been put back by #mccann s for fiscal info on GA book sales.

The McCann's have asked for "confidentiality documents" from what I read on Twitter

by Hicks 08.07.14 13:37

sallypelt wrote:
ChippyM wrote:
joel27 wrote:
sallypelt wrote:David Wuffler ‏@Heavy_Dave · 1m
In Lisbon, Gerry #mccann answers a question that hadn't been asked : "I just want to say that the dog did not smell blood."

Why is the first thought, what brought out the need to raise it, is there something new that suggests or adds to the previous findings.

Edit Why just mention blood ?

Yes I would like to see the video of this, did Gerry just blurt it out at the end?

Gerry McCann is trying to discredit the very thing that stands in his way........the dogs. But this is one thing that cannot be explained away, so when he was on the public platform, today, he took the decision to bring the dogs up, when no one had asked him about them, but, thankfully, the judge told him to SHUT UP, or words to the effect.

Mans best friend..........and hopefully Goncalo Amaral's too!

by Guest 08.07.14 13:37

So there was another hearing on the 10th??? Now postponed because of the McCanns?? dontgetit

Joana Morais ‏@xklamation 20m
#mccann hearing session of 10th postponed due to mccanns request for confidential fiscal documentation - "dilatory manouvers" indeed

Siobhan Feely ‏@SiobhanFeely 1 min
so postponed cause #mccann want to know fiscal info on book sales ??

by Guest 08.07.14 13:38

Daryl Dixon wrote:
Montclair wrote:
Correct . That is the key point .if that information is given to the court .you can bet he will be wiped out by the said amount .
His failing to speak is not good either , he may have been grilled but you DO NOT LIE when speaking the truth .
He now has to talk outside the court to the press .

The court is not asking for this information, it is Isabel Duarte in order delay proceedings.

Also, the judge refused the requests of Kate, Gerry and Gonçalo to make statements. The McCanns appealed and the appeals court accepted it. You can always ask GA's former lawyer why no appeal was made on his behalf.
There is surely no need to ask GA's former lawyer anything. A lawyer works on the instructions of his clients therefore the decision not to appeal would have been GA's.

Personally, I think it is the court, and not Isabel Duarte, asking for full disclosure of GA's assets.

Good

Shows the Judge is not leaving any loose ends available for the appeal case

Good Judge!

by sallypelt 08.07.14 13:38

Joana Morais ‏@xklamation · 13 hrs
#mccann hearing session of 10th postponed due to mccanns request for confidential fiscal documentation - "dilatory manouvers" indeed

by tasprin 08.07.14 13:38

candyfloss wrote:Kay Burley has issued a correction!!

Kay Burley ‏@KayBurley 5m
PA correction on Kate #McCann: "Sean asked me in October 'Mr Amaral said you HID Madeleine'. substituting 'hid' for 'killed'!!

Sean sat quietly with a bus-load of school kids, all listening to the news, and when he got home he questioned his mother about "Mr Amaral's" comment that she "Hid Madeleine". About as likely as pigs flying, OR maybe Sean is a sceptic too.

by ChippyM 08.07.14 13:39

Woofer wrote:It`s not as if Goncalo has benefited by any sales of his book as the McCanns had all his assets frozen IIRC.

maybe that's what the judge will see. If the sales were meagre, it means it didn't actually reach many people (for one reason or another), so how could it have the effect the McCann's claim?

by Seek truth 08.07.14 13:39

ChippyM wrote:
joel27 wrote:
sallypelt wrote:David Wuffler ‏@Heavy_Dave · 1m
In Lisbon, Gerry #mccann answers a question that hadn't been asked : "I just want to say that the dog did not smell blood."

Why is the first thought, what brought out the need to raise it, is there something new that suggests or adds to the previous findings.

Edit Why just mention blood ?

Yes I would like to see the video of this, did Gerry just blurt it out at the end?

Oh so he did ASK THE DOGS! (From his favourite speech)

15/19 markers ?.

by Guest 08.07.14 13:41

ChippyM wrote:
Woofer wrote:It`s not as if Goncalo has benefited by any sales of his book as the McCanns had all his assets frozen IIRC.

maybe that's what the judge will see. If the sales were meagre, it means it didn't actually reach many people (for one reason or another), so how could it have the effect the McCann's claim?

Good thinking

by worriedmum 08.07.14 13:41

Portia wrote:
sallypelt wrote:David Wuffler ‏@Heavy_Dave · 1m
In Lisbon, Gerry #mccann answers a question that hadn't been asked : "I just want to say that the dog did not smell blood."

Which dog, Gerry?

Or, to be precise, which one of TWO dogs did not smell blood?

And if not blood, what DID it detect and signal to its experiences handler on camera, for all to see?

Any other bodily fluids, perhaps?

Oh, sorry, Mrs has already ruled those out of the equation as well, long ago

So, nothing left to smell really, is there?

Problem solved!

Just thought of a story I was told about a child with its first bike. Eager to try it out on the street, the child's mother agreed as long as the child didn't go 'around the corner'-ie out of sight..... 'So make sure you do as you are told-because the birds in the trees will tell me if you go around the corner...'
The child cycled off. A while later, the child returned.

''Mummy......er....have the birds said anything to you?''

by **Tony Bennett** 08.07.14 13:43

Apologies if already posted - from the Daily Mail just now:

Speaking to reporters after the hearing today, Mr McCann said that Mr Amaral's claims had caused a 'tremendous amount of damage' but he hoped that people would now see that all he and his wife wanted was a conclusion to the case.

'We want to make clear that it is a very complex investigation, it is a huge dossier and we just want as much as possible to be worked through,' he said.

He hoped continuing investigations would catch whoever snatched his daughter. He said: 'Whoever took Madeleine is still out there and whoever the person is they must have been laughing these past six years at what was told in the book, that there was no predator out there.

'There was and he or she may strike again.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2684287/Kate-Gerry-McCann-return-Portugal-deliver-personal-statements-libel-trial-against-former-police-chief.html#ixzz36sYWMgDj

by jeanmonroe 08.07.14 13:47

GM said (verbatim) "whoever took Madeleine is still out there, whoever that person is, or, or persons, they must have been laughing during these last 6 years at what's been told in the book, that there was no abduction that, that, y'know there's no predator out there, there is and he may str, he or SHE or THEY might strike again"

SHE? SHE? WHO the fcuk is SHE?

Guess that BLOWS 'Tanner MAN' right off their website then!

Unless, of course, Tannerman could have been a 'drag' artist!

But i reckon 'eagle eyed' Jane would have seen through that 'disguise', in an instant, even FROM the 50 (FIFTY) METRES as BOTH the McCanns in sworn, written, SIGNED, statements have said THAT was the 'distance' JT 'SAW' the 'abductor/predator' carrying Madeleine off, FROM!

Can't wait for their 'new' FEMALE 'suspect' to take her place, on their website!

Probably KM, (K Middlleton).............they wish!

Would add a nice touch of 'class' though, wouldn't it?

"Our Maddie WAS 'abducted' by royalty, we'd expect nothing less really, to be honest, as she was the most 'beautiful child that was ever born, Ask Jon'

Strangely though, NO 'predator' had 'abducted' any child in PDL in the 7 YEARS 'before' they went there, and NO 'predator' has 'abducted' any child in PDL 'since' they left there!

That's NOT a good 'strike' rate is it?

by sallypelt 08.07.14 13:47

Love Don't Live Here ‏@PoveySarah · 13 hrs
GM was ordained to the highest 33° Sovereign Inspector rank, at 1330 on Friday 13 July 2007, at Freemasons Hall, London .#mccann

Avril ‏@Harebell22 · 13 hrs
@PoveySarah Thought it was 31st July? You're probably right! Regardless, G #mccann was raised to the same rank as "friends" Tony and Gordon.

Make of that what you will

by Guest 08.07.14 13:48

Tony Bennett wrote:Apologies if already posted - from the Daily Mail just now:

Speaking to reporters after the hearing today, Mr McCann said that Mr Amaral's claims had caused a 'tremendous amount of damage' but he hoped that people would now see that all he and his wife wanted was a conclusion to the case.

'We want to make clear that it is a very complex investigation, it is a huge dossier and we just want as much as possible to be worked through,' he said.

He hoped continuing investigations would catch whoever snatched his daughter. He said: 'Whoever took Madeleine is still out there and whoever the person is they must have been laughing these past six years at what was told in the book, that there was no predator out there.

'There was and he or she may strike again.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2684287/Kate-Gerry-McCann-return-Portugal-deliver-personal-statements-libel-trial-against-former-police-chief.html#ixzz36sYWMgDj

SHE ???

So, having ~~wasted~~ spent the past seven years hunting for TannerMAN cum assorted suis, we are now gingerly prepared for the investigation turning towards the other 51 50 % of Mankind?

by tasprin 08.07.14 13:48

Tony Bennett wrote:Apologies if already posted - from the Daily Mail just now:

Speaking to reporters after the hearing today, Mr McCann said that Mr Amaral's claims had caused a 'tremendous amount of damage' but he hoped that people would now see that all he and his wife wanted was a conclusion to the case.

'We want to make clear that it is a very complex investigation, it is a huge dossier and we just want as much as possible to be worked through,' he said.

He hoped continuing investigations would catch whoever snatched his daughter. He said: 'Whoever took Madeleine is still out there and whoever the person is they must have been laughing these past six years at what was told in the book, that there was no predator out there.

'There was and he or she may strike again.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2684287/Kate-Gerry-McCann-return-Portugal-deliver-personal-statements-libel-trial-against-former-police-chief.html#ixzz36sYWMgDj

Why has he/she only been laughing for six years? Was the first year more difficult? Did he/she relax when the case was shelved?

by sallypelt 08.07.14 13:49

LHL News ‏@LHLNews · 13 hrs
@Bishop_Basher Amaral's lawyer has been allowed to ask questions of Kate #McCann, arguing that there's been no hindrance to the search for M

by joel27 08.07.14 13:50

sallypelt wrote:
ChippyM wrote:
joel27 wrote:
sallypelt wrote:David Wuffler ‏@Heavy_Dave · 1m
In Lisbon, Gerry #mccann answers a question that hadn't been asked : "I just want to say that the dog did not smell blood."

Why is the first thought, what brought out the need to raise it, is there something new that suggests or adds to the previous findings.

Edit Why just mention blood ?

Yes I would like to see the video of this, did Gerry just blurt it out at the end?

Gerry McCann is trying to discredit the very thing that stands in his way........the dogs. But this is one thing that cannot be explained away, so when he was on the public platform, today, he took the decision to bring the dogs up, when no one had asked him about them, but, thankfully, the judge told him to SHUT UP, or words to the effect.

I get the discredit bit and the judge shutting him up, but, something is bothering him, something that means he has to get out the discredit of the dog evidence. I cannot believe he was not word perfect practiced for today in court but its the bits when your finished that catches you out. Somewhere into his mind there was a need to discredit the dogs and the evidence of blood. Its I am not sure "trigger in his head" its not about impact of the book the conclusion of the findings. Blood in the apartment nose bleed anything could explain it the dog finding it but that trigger says it has to be explained. Ok its small thing but just my first thought.

by True Liberty 08.07.14 13:51

Sallypelt please provide link to masonry ordination of 33rd degree.

Did anyone see in the Daily Wail the first image of Gerry, touching his ear and his nose looking like it had been photoshoppped to be Pinnochio.

by sallypelt 08.07.14 13:52

True Liberty wrote:Sallypelt please provide link to masonry ordination of 33rd degree.

Did anyone see in the Daily Wail the first image of Gerry, touching his ear and his nose looking like it had been photoshoppped to be Pinnochio.

True Liberty, they are copied and posted tweets, so if you want to read them yourself, you'll find them here:

https://twitter.com/search?f=realtime&q=%23mccann&src=tyah

by Guest 08.07.14 13:52

True Liberty wrote:Sallypelt please provide link to masonry ordination of 33rd degree.

Did anyone see in the Daily Wail the first image of Gerry, touching his ear and his nose looking like it had been photoshoppped to be Pinnochio.

Yes, we don't know if that is true. I don't want this thread to get into a freemason debate. Please discuss on a relevant thread....thanks.

by Seek truth 08.07.14 13:53

Kate spoke about how amaral damaged the search, and the Madeleine foundation ?
How foolish, this leads to the question, Why refuse to mention the police files?

maybe Martin Brunt was going to mention the PJ files who knows, there was a lot of pausing in his speech.

sarcastic

by Angelique 08.07.14 13:54

joel27 wrote:
sallypelt wrote:
ChippyM wrote:
joel27 wrote:
sallypelt wrote:David Wuffler ‏@Heavy_Dave · 1m
In Lisbon, Gerry #mccann answers a question that hadn't been asked : "I just want to say that the dog did not smell blood."

Why is the first thought, what brought out the need to raise it, is there something new that suggests or adds to the previous findings.

Edit Why just mention blood ?

Yes I would like to see the video of this, did Gerry just blurt it out at the end?

Gerry McCann is trying to discredit the very thing that stands in his way........the dogs. But this is one thing that cannot be explained away, so when he was on the public platform, today, he took the decision to bring the dogs up, when no one had asked him about them, but, thankfully, the judge told him to SHUT UP, or words to the effect.
I get the discredit bit and the judge shutting him up, but, something is bothering him, something that means he has to get out the discredit of the dog evidence. I cannot believe he was not word perfect practiced for today in court but its the bits when your finished that catches you out. Somewhere into his mind there was a need to discredit the dogs and the evidence of blood. Its I am not sure "trigger in his head" its not about impact of the book the conclusion of the findings. Blood in the apartment nose bleed anything could explain it the dog finding it but that trigger says it has to be explained. Ok its small thing but just my first thought.

Yes - I agree - something is bothering him about the dogs and blood. He knows OG has had dogs in PdL but I wonder if they have searched somewhere which is sensitive.

by **Tony Bennett** 08.07.14 13:54

'Most viewed' current news item on the BBC right now, posted by BBC 13.38 -

It's about Sean's comment re Goncalo Amaral

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28211250

by Watchingthespincycle 08.07.14 13:55

Sean's question (if it happened) was convenient.
I would like to know if he's ever asked if they used to leave the children alone, and if so, why? If I was asking questions at that age, I'd want to know if and why my parents neglected me.

by Miraflores 08.07.14 14:00

Shame the BBC isn't allowing comments on the statement that Sean is supposed to have made. I would be very very easy to point out that the McCann's had Amaral's book banned in September 2009, before Sean could have heard anything either on a radio or in the playground.

But carry on MSM - you have been sycophantic to the McCanns so why change now.