Re: Maddie's clothes

by jd 31.08.12 6:23

From Amaral's book....Interesting

SATURDAY, 5 MAY
"- McCanns and twins are in the Payne's apartment. we talk about going to the apartment to collect Madeleine's clothes, especially those she was wearing the afternoon of 3 May when taken from the creche, to see if there is any sign of violence. The British Ambassador is already meeting with the investigators. The decision is to NOT request Madeleine's clothes, to avoid a media rush, it is "premature" to consider the parents suspects.

- Suddenly the parents and friends must be treated with diplomacy, we are not allowed to question their behaviour. The strategy is that all theories are open. Somehow Jane's statement gains weight such that the first press communication is that this is considered an abduction. The media demands were enormous, something had to be said.

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On the 5th May clothing was sent to the OC laundry.....

Processos Vol III

Pages 560 -561

Witness statement

Vera María Mestre Fernandes Arez

Date: 2007/05/08

Occupation: Laundry Worker

Place of Work: Ocean Club

She has worked at the Ocean Club for six years with the function of cleaner in the rooms and apartments of Waterside Village and for the last 4 years her function is laundry worker. Her working hours are from 09.30 to 13.00 and from 14.30 to 18.00. The laundry, her place of work, is situated in the Ocean Club Gardens.

That as laundry worker her functions are to wash, dry all the linen from the rooms and apartments (sheets, towels and clothes from some of the clients) and from the Ocean Club restaurants (towels). All the laundry work takes place in the laundry where she works with three colleagues.

That she knows about the situation that occurred in the Ocean Club since 04/05/2007 at 09.30 as she was informed by a colleague from the laundry that a child had disappeared.

That she does not know the circumstances in which the girl disappeared only having heard about it in the press and from colleagues.

That she remembers that on Saturday 05/05/2007 having washed clothing belonging to the missing girl’s family and she checked that it was children’s and adult’s clothing. This service was carried out by her colleague Silvia Cravinho. That on the next day Sunday it was her colleague Bernadete Calado who went to deliver the clothing directly to the missing girl’s apartment.

That before that no clothing from the missing girl’s family had been washed and after that date there was no other washing of clothes from the family.

That she never had any contact with the family or with the missing girl as she never leaves the laundry except to have lunch.

That she did not notice anything strange on 03/05/2007. She did not notice anything strange on the days preceding this date and does not have any information about the disappearance.

No more is said. Reads, ratifies and signs.

"Last Saturday (05/05/2007) I received a bag of clothes brought in by Mark Warner staff, and was told expressly that these belonged to Madeleine's family – there was adult clothing (male and female) and children's clothing... ", states one of the laundry workers.

by **tigger** 31.08.12 8:05

JD wrote:
From Amaral's book:
SATURDAY, 5 MAY
"- McCanns and twins are in the Payne's apartment. we talk about going to the apartment to collect Madeleine's clothes, especially those she was wearing the afternoon of 3 May when taken from the creche, to see if there is any sign of violence. The British Ambassador is already meeting with the investigators. The decision is to NOT request Madeleine's clothes, to avoid a media rush, it is "premature" to consider the parents suspects.
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At that time Amaral was not aware of the 'last photo' and the pink dress. Perhaps that's why it was 'overlooked' . It only surfaced in a photograph nearly three weeks later. Physically the pink dress never was in PdL in 2007 imo.
Amaral is clearly also not aware of the many changes of clothes that Maddie had that day - as documented by her mother.
The British ambassador was there midday on the 4th and again on the 5th. Exceptional treatment indeed.

by Cristobell 31.08.12 12:14

I've not seen this thread before, but am absolutely astounded that the mccanns sent clothes to be laundered on 5th May, and also that the police allowed this!

by Guest 31.08.12 12:47

Cristobell wrote: I've not seen this thread before, but am absolutely astounded that the mccanns sent clothes to be laundered on 5th May, and also that the police allowed this!

So was the police

by **tigger** 31.08.12 13:05

Portia wrote:
Cristobell wrote: I've not seen this thread before, but am absolutely astounded that the mccanns sent clothes to be laundered on 5th May, and also that the police allowed this!

So was the police

And only a few weeks later Cuddlecat was washed as well - police should have pounced on that but the press would have made mincemeat out of them for taking away the closest thing to Maddie from her adoring mother.....

Glad to see you're back Portia. Such classy avatars too!

by **tigger** 16.03.13 7:09

Thanks to Angelique in another topic:

Kate McCann talks to Oprah Winfrey 2 years after Maddie vanished News of the World

What Kate told Oprah 2 years after she vanished

By Sara Nuwar
26/04/2009

HAUNTED Kate McCann has confessed she visits missing daughter Madeleine's bedroom twice a day to chat to her.

[...]

She then described how her daughter's bedroom at their Leicestershire home is kept ready for her return and touchingly told how she goes in there at least twice a day "just to say hello to Madeleine".

[...] Kate, 41, and husband Gerry told how:

DAUGHTER Amelie now wears Madeleine's clothes.
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and:

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Clip By Sara Nuwar
26/04/2009

"And Kate told how Amelie has taken to borrowing some of Madeleine's clothes-although the oufits last worn by her in Portugal are kept tucked away and untouched."
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by Guest 16.03.13 9:01

I copy my comment from the other thread:
"And Kate told how Amelie has taken to borrowing some of Madeleine's
clothes-although the outfits last worn by her in Portugal are kept tucked
away and untouched."

Very interesting. Perhaps an idea for SY to have a dog sniff on it?

by Guest 16.03.13 9:13

I'd wondered why the last outfits (pool side and tennis court) hadn't been put on show as often happens to jog people's memories when a child goes missing. It could be that they were being withheld by the police for some reason.

Now we hear from Kate herself that she took these clothes home. I don't know which is harder to swallow:

1) that the police would have allowed her to do so or
2) if they did, could Kate have resisted the urge to make a mint by selling the pictures to the media?

Pull the other leg! I don't believe that these clothes were ever in PDL, certainly not in 2007 anyway.

by rainbow-fairy 16.03.13 13:34

Jean wrote:I'd wondered why the last outfits (pool side and tennis court) hadn't been put on show as often happens to jog people's memories when a child goes missing. It could be that they were being withheld by the police for some reason.

Now we hear from Kate herself that she took these clothes home. I don't know which is harder to swallow:

1) that the police would have allowed her to do so or
2) if they did, could Kate have resisted the urge to make a mint by selling the pictures to the media?

Pull the other leg! I don't believe that these clothes were ever in PDL, certainly not in 2007 anyway.

Have to agree Jean, and it is Kates over-egged story of choosing them, ummming and ahhhing about the price - 'they were an extravagance but worth it' nails it for me yes

by **tigger** 08.06.14 8:50

There are a few topics on the clothes of the McCann family, it seems like nit- picking but has actually thrown up very strange facts such as the PJ being advised NOT to request Maddie's clothes.
Such as the fact that none of these alleged garments were used to help the dog handlers who worked the area for days over a large area. The search and rescue dogs could certainly have done with them.

As for clothes were NOT taken to Rothley, but re-used.

The pink hat - by Amelie on allegedly the last photo is imo a big give-away. Children are possesive, tennis photo has Maddie with pink hat, M allegedly loved pink. Would she take second best? I doubt it.

Amelie allegedly said: 'Maddie's sandals' and was able to wear them at a later date.