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Post by Pat Brown 30.06.11 9:35

Hi Me!

You timeline and clothing issues bring up a number of good points, most of all, that the questions to be asked and analyzed are within the Tapas 9.
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Post by Pat Brown 30.06.11 9:39

Ufercoffy, your question about decay and refrigeration and mummification, etc., is an excellent one and very hard to actually answer. Kind of goes like this; it depends. It depends on where the body was put, how it was put there, was it wrapped, was it in the sun, was it in the shade, what kind of substance was it in, was it in one place and then another and another, was it in a refrigerator at some point, and so on. This might all eventually come out in a confession or if the body is found or never. What we do know is that it is unlikely that the body wasn't in the vehicle at some point.
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Post by Pat Brown 30.06.11 9:43

I thought you would all find this amusing!

A new one-star review at Amazon says "An official complaint that Ms Brown's book is libellous has been lodged with Amazon and I hope it will be pulled soon." ::laughs::

But, on a serious note, if you have read the Profile and haven't put up a review at Amazon.co.uk or Amazon.com, every good review helps keep the reputation of the profile up and, believe me, I appreciate all the support.
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Post by The Rooster 30.06.11 14:52

My Amazon Review...

The profile written by Pat is well researched, articulate, credible, unbiased, very readable and thoroughly thought provoking.

Anybody who has reservations about the McCann’s abduction theory and the rhetoric spouted by their mouthpiece (can't bring myself to say the man’s' name), you know if you kind of think... "There’s something not right here, the pieces just don't add up..." then this is an ABSOLUTE MUST READ DOCUMENT. Buy it, read it and you'll be better informed than 90% of the population in the UK. Simply open your mind and forget the misinformation churned out by the tabloid press and the Telegraph.

Good people understandably can't bring themselves to think of parents harming their children, but distressingly it happens all too regularly. Very good people don't let them get away with it. It's a sort of social and moral responsibility kind of thing. At the end of the day if there wasn't something fishy about the mysterious disappearance of Madeleine McCann, why haven't the parents cleared their names by simply doing a police reconstruction, doing a lie detector test, answering the police questions and accounting for their mobile telephone calls in early May 2007. Simple enough for loving parents with a clear conscience to undertake.

So in summary don't view this as a negative review of the McCann parents position, rather view it as a positive position for their missing child.

Ah say boy... hit em where it hurts!

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Post by Gillyspot 30.06.11 19:09

Here is my review put on Amazon on 18th June (along with 5*s of course)

"What an excellent profile about a very upsetting case.

Pat Brown has really got down to the nitty gritty of the evidence and puts her theory together carefully and concisely using evidence that all can find in the Mccann PJ files. Ms Brown doesnt pull any punches in this profile but is careful to stick within the evidence provided by the Portuguese Police. I recommend anyone with an interest in this case to read her compelling book and make their own minds up on the case. As an asside I would not recommend Vanished: The Truth About the Disappearance of Madeline McCann by Danny Collins as the author seems to ignore most of the evidence available and just chose the parts that fit his theory."

Well done Pat I have recommended this book to all my friends and at the massive price of £2.12 it was a bargain too! clapping clapping
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Post by Gillyspot 30.06.11 19:20

Thought I'd make you smile Pat

Here is my review of the Danny Collins book "Vanished" - surely Mccann sponsored.

"If Danny Collins is an investigative journalist then I am a teapot. A total waste of money and time reading it. It is just a rehash of the Mccann's claims except he says Madeleine has managed to get out of the apartment on her own to be abducted by someone. That is the only actual story in their. Most of the book is about paedophile rings and other kidnapping in portugal. Please, please dont waste your money on this. If you want a possible explanation of what happened to poor Madeleine that takes account of all the evidence and known facts in this case then I recommend you buy the Profile of the Disappearance of Madeleine McCann by Pat Brown. £2.12 on kindle. I have read the Portuguese Police files and her explanation fits the facts found within them. "
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Post by pauline 30.06.11 19:36

Honeybunch - I borrowed this book from a friend.

Love your review especially the opening sentence.

I am so glad I did not pay for it.

The friend I borrowed it from believes the McCanns and feels this book's explanation of her wondering off to find her parents but unfortunately meeting someone who seized the opportunity to take her is the most likely answer to what took place that night. I have asked her to read and research more widely, but she hasn't. she says I interpret the facts to make them fit what I want to believe which is that the McCanns did not tell the truth. We actually cannot discuss the subject any more.

back to the book, I felt it odd that an investigative journalist would give his royalties to the Fund and that his publisher would also donate.
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Post by dragonfly 30.06.11 20:05

[quote="Willo"]In regards to contacting Talksport I contacted George Galloway, among others, at the station back in Oct 2007. I first emailed his show but was ignored. I then sent a email direct to his website I think. I thought George was the champion of the people, not afraid to throw his weight behind any good cause. But even George backed off this one. Not afraid to ruffle all sorts of feathers over any crisis in the Middle East or indeed the world but not willing or able to help seek justice for a four year old girl.
Here is the email and the short reply I eventually received:

On 28/10/2007, willo


Hi George,

Sent a mail to your radio show but maybe you missed it. I hope you have not been frightened off the subject.
What is going on in the Madeleine McCann case?


It, from the outside, looks like a huge cover up. Too many big players involved. Can you ask the right
questions in the house to allay many peoples fears that justice is being manipulated by the 'big brothers'? Or are you not allowed to interfere either?

Something funny is going on that needs to be discovered? No or limited press coverage. The PM ringing suspects directly and appointment of a government man for PR to name a few.

It's not right George and I trust as champion of the people you will investigate these going ons?
The Portuguese people have been greatly slandered to save whos arse I wonder?

Love your show on talksport,
Cheers,


Willo.

The very short reply I got is below :

I don't think anything can or should be done until the police conclude their investigation. There is too much speculation already.

George


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Mr Galloway is not afraid of mixing it with world powers as seen by headlines below, but it seems he was not keen or not allowed to get involved in the McCann case and take on the might of Kate and Gerry. I have a feeling he would have loved to help but even his hands were tied.

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It has been suggested that George Galloway has a villa in PDL , Can any one confirm this?
Their is also some comments and opinions on this page about George Galloway on talksport


http://www.illuminatiarchives.org/t-stokes/operation-ore/

and this is George feelings on the Mccanns?
http://steelmagnolia-steelmagnolia.blogspot.com/2011/02/george-galloway-into-mccanns-10.html


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Post by Guest 30.06.11 20:23

Hi dragonfly,

In this video at 3 mins in he says he has a house in the Algarve

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Post by Pat Brown 30.06.11 20:46

Oh, Honeybunch, awesome reviews! These are so much a help to keeping the Profile afloat and adding to the that are based on EVIDENCE investigated properly. Crossing fingers that one day we may be surprised. Thanks again, Honeybunch!
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Post by Guest 30.06.11 21:12

Hi Pat,

Just wondered if you had any contact with Chris Freind? Perhaps he could do a piece on your book - he seem very interested in the case.
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Post by AskTheDogsSandra 30.06.11 21:13

The Rooster wrote:My Amazon Review...

The profile written by Pat is well researched, articulate, credible, unbiased, very readable and thoroughly thought provoking.

Anybody who has reservations about the McCann’s abduction theory and the rhetoric spouted by their mouthpiece (can't bring myself to say the man’s' name), you know if you kind of think... "There’s something not right here, the pieces just don't add up..." then this is an ABSOLUTE MUST READ DOCUMENT. Buy it, read it and you'll be better informed than 90% of the population in the UK. Simply open your mind and forget the misinformation churned out by the tabloid press and the Telegraph.

Good people understandably can't bring themselves to think of parents harming their children, but distressingly it happens all too regularly. Very good people don't let them get away with it. It's a sort of social and moral responsibility kind of thing. At the end of the day if there wasn't something fishy about the mysterious disappearance of Madeleine McCann, why haven't the parents cleared their names by simply doing a police reconstruction, doing a lie detector test, answering the police questions and accounting for their mobile telephone calls in early May 2007. Simple enough for loving parents with a clear conscience to undertake.

So in summary don't view this as a negative review of the McCann parents position, rather view it as a positive position for their missing child.

Ah say boy... hit em where it hurts!

IN THE POCKET

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Post by Gillyspot 30.06.11 21:21

Pat how about we get George Galloway to interview you?

Can't see it happening though cos has lost the bottle I think unfortunately.

It truly is amazing (well not really) that none of the UK media have picked up on your fantastic book!
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Post by AskTheDogsSandra 30.06.11 21:25

honeybunch wrote:It truly is amazing (well not really) that none of the UK media have picked up on your fantastic book!

I bet they have, they're just too lilly-livered to do anything about it.
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Post by Pat Brown 30.06.11 21:35

Thanks, Rooster! Fabulous review indeed! I always breath a sign of relief when I see a good one, especially after someone comes in a writes a pile of stuff that is entirely untrue (not just disagreement).

As to media, well, often times they media like to feel THEY have "discovered" the story, so if somehow the Profile and what the profiler said gets into their hands through a "concerned" or "amazed" citizen or the story of desperation of some to discredit the book with "bizarre" hate sites and "pirating" of the book is brought to their attention or the ideas or the profile can go viral in some fashion, then the media tends to jump on board. Who wants the other paper or network or show or host to get the story and the publicity? So, somehow it has to become a story they REALLY want....otherwise, it just doesn't matter to them.
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Post by AskTheDogsSandra 30.06.11 21:39

Pat, I have seen some comments on sites about you and am appalled. Thankfully you have a warm reception here roses

Please keep up the good work. Between you and Tony you could get this case reopened! thumbsup
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Post by Pat Brown 30.06.11 21:48

Thanks, Sandra,

Yes, some of the sights are quite impolite, eh? Some of it actually has nothing to do with this case. I recognize one poster as a woman who has stalked me for the last five years out of nothing more than jealousy. Some others are from the West Memphis Three case who don't like the fact I find the three guilty as charged (and I have no problem with them working for an appeal if they really think they are innocent). I have a couple of website dedicated to attacking me because I try to warn women about behaviors (like running at dusk and getting really trash drunk and going to a guy's house you barely know) that can get them raped and killed. I am called anti-victim or someone who blames victims instead of the perpetrators. Go figure. Then, when they decide to hate on me, they simply take a whole pile of stuff out of context and time and twist it to make it seem true when it is not. All in all, I have survived over a decade of this so I think I can last a few more years!
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Post by Jill Havern 30.06.11 23:02

candyfloss wrote:Hi Pat,

Just wondered if you had any contact with Chris Freind? Perhaps he could do a piece on your book - he seem very interested in the case.

Good question Profile of the Disappearance of Madeleine McCann - Page 3 636506
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Post by Guest 30.06.11 23:08

Get 'em Gonçalo wrote:
candyfloss wrote:Hi Pat,

Just wondered if you had any contact with Chris Freind? Perhaps he could do a piece on your book - he seem very interested in the case.

Good question Profile of the Disappearance of Madeleine McCann - Page 3 636506

Link to The Freindly Fire Zone on Madeleine McCann by Chris here...

http://www.freindlyfirezone.com/home/itemlist/category/4-madeleine-mccann
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Post by pennylane 01.07.11 10:06

Pat Brown wrote:Thanks, Sandra,

Yes, some of the sights are quite impolite, eh? Some of it actually has nothing to do with this case. I recognize one poster as a woman who has stalked me for the last five years out of nothing more than jealousy. Some others are from the West Memphis Three case who don't like the fact I find the three guilty as charged (and I have no problem with them working for an appeal if they really think they are innocent). I have a couple of website dedicated to attacking me because I try to warn women about behaviors (like running at dusk and getting really trash drunk and going to a guy's house you barely know) that can get them raped and killed. I am called anti-victim or someone who blames victims instead of the perpetrators. Go figure. Then, when they decide to hate on me, they simply take a whole pile of stuff out of context and time and twist it to make it seem true when it is not. All in all, I have survived over a decade of this so I think I can last a few more years!

Welcome Pat Profile of the Disappearance of Madeleine McCann - Page 3 260239

It seems being open, honest and direct is not welcome in some quarters. Your warning to women in order to help keep them safe from harm, would definitely save lives if heeded, and I struggle to see how anyone could find fault in such sound advice.

You have brought fresh and renewed vigour to our fight for justice for Madeleine Beth McCann, and I'm so pleased you have joined us. Profile of the Disappearance of Madeleine McCann - Page 3 725573
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Post by Miraflores 01.07.11 10:14

doing a lie detector test,

I can't see why there is this call for lie detector tests - we don't use them in the UK nor, as far as I am aware, Portugal. Using them would just add another layer of play-acting to the situation.
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Post by Guest 01.07.11 10:20

Yes I thought that too Miraflores. I don't personally set much store in their effectiveness as there are some people clever enough to lie very convincingly and pass with flying colours. I am actually thinking of politicians like Tony Blair rather than you know who!
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Post by puzzled 01.07.11 11:22

nomendelta wrote:Don't make too much of Gerry's comment - I don't think so much he has said that he sensed someone was there, more that in retrospect he said someone COULD have been there during that check. Purely and simply I think it was just a comment to attempt to add credence to the abduction thesis - and also against criticism that the window of opportunity was too small for an abduction. By suggesting the abductor was present during an earlier check (despite Amaral pointing out that nobody could have been hidden behind the door as Gerry suggests) the window of opportunity is made out to be greater.

Oh, I don't think for one minute that he meant what he said. But the mere fact that he thought it was acceptable to say it... and doesn't seem to see the anomoly in it...what does that tell us? It's a bit like "if Madeleine was hurt....how would that be our fault"? Does he really not know?
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Post by puzzled 01.07.11 11:27

Out of interest, didn't they take Eddie and Keela to the beach and cliffs, and got no alert? That seems to indicate that there was never a body on the beach, as I think dogs like that can detect a scent even after many months, and through several feet of earth.
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Post by ROSA 02.07.11 9:33

hi Pat
i think you are a very clever lady i wish you all the best with your book can i ask
Do you think the McCanns can be charged this time or are they going to get away with it again
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Post by BertySodbuster 04.07.11 20:22

I think it's pretty obvious why Pat Brown registered here.............simply to promote her book.

Where is she how?

On twitter plugging her book for sure, but here........nah nah

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Post by ROSA 05.07.11 4:24

That is not nice BertySodbuster shame on you
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Post by Guest 05.07.11 9:22

I imagine Pat joined the forum because she has an interest in the case, hence
she wrote her book, there is no point in having a book unless you publicise it,
the more people who get to hear the valid questions that are being asked about
this case the better, that imo can only help put pressure on all those involved, and those
who are shielding the people involved. Therefore the book needs to be publicised as
widely as possible, on as many forums as possible, twitter etc.,

Just like many of us who have busy lives, there are not many people who can spend the whole day on the forum or even visit it every day. I know when I have visited I have noticed Pat's name here, but she
needs to publicise the book other places as well and I'm sure she also has a million of other
things to do in her life as well.

And for those who are just here to criticise her Pat has also pointed out on her facebook Profile Page
that proceeds of the book go to help victims.
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Post by Tinkerbell81 27.08.11 11:26

One of the things I thoroughly hate about coming in so late is that sometimes info is no longer available. I want to buy this but amazon pulled it, is there still a way to purchase it?

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Post by Gillyspot 27.08.11 11:32

it is available here for $2.99 and as is a ebook can be downloaded

http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/76820
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