Profile of the Disappearance of Madeleine McCann

Pat Brown wrote:Puzzled,

The McCann's definitely show traits of narcissism but how far up the continuum from normal to psychopathic is the question. I tend to think they aren't totally on the far end, but, my stomach rather does turn when they speak and I have the odd desire to go take a shower after watching one of their videos, so there is something terribly off-putting about their behavior, a sense of being manipulated and used. From what I see which matches narcissism is that the individual wouldn't go out and purposefully commit a crime like murder or rape, but would justify what they do if if feeds their ego through a narcissistic stream of incoming reinforcement. So, going out for the evening with friends and leaving the children alone (oh, but safely tucked in) makes one feel good as opposed to being stuck away from the group doing childcare. Likewise, protecting oneself from accusations of neglect and accidental death in order to raise the other children and protect their friends from like accusations is a good thing, not a bad thing. Then, getting lots of money to search for Madeleine raises awareness for all missing children and, therefore, is not such a bad thing. Get my drift?

Pat Brown wrote:Pressure, lots of pressure, would be the only way to get this police to feel they MUST reinvestigate the McCanns and the rest of the Tapas group.

Good evening Pat (I think it's getting around to evening in most of the U.S., it's gone 1am here), welcome to this forum and thank you for your e-book and also for contributing to this forum here.

I respond to endorse, and strongly endorse, the above sentence of yours. There has been some wonderful research done within the various Madeleine McCann forums, some wonderful debates and discussions, but to a large extent the McCann Team can ignore forum discussions, as perhaps this quote on page 311 of Dr Kate McCann's book illustrates: "Up to that point, this man's activities had always been confined to the internet and therefore, presumably, to like-minded individuals. Now he was spreading them in the community..."

That was a reference to The Madeleine Foundation's '10 Reasons' leaflet, now effectively banned by the McCanns; the reference to 'this man' was of course to myself.

It has always been part of my strategy in this case to take our message out to people and also to press the powers-that-be with reasonable demands e.g. Freedom of Information requests, demands for a full public enquiry etc.

[Public enquiry petition link: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/289/petition-for-a-full-public-enquiry-into-the-disappearance-of-madeleine-mccann-with-the-power-to/
767 signatures to date].

The McCann Team is hugely resourced financially and with heavyweights in the media, the legal profession and elsewhere, whereas, by contrast, on our side we have been disparate, poorly organised, without financial resources and, to a large extent, not nearly so effective as we could and should have been. Nevertheless, history records that David beat Goliath with one, well directed single blow.

We shall have to agree to disagree on your suggestion that Madeleine died after 8.30pm on Thursday 3 May. I have restricted ability, by virtue of a legal undertaking I have signed, to say all I should like to say about what happened to Madeleine McCann, but put it this way, if she did indeed die in the McCanns' apartment, for which IMO there is a lot of evidence, including circumstantial evidence, then the balance of evidence to me clearly points to her death earlier in the week. I agree with the poster (ROSA I think) who suggested that the chaotic events of the evening of 3 May are not necessarily indicative of a sudden event that very evening.

On your specific point about there being little evidence of Dr Gerald McCann's presence around the Ocean Club at about 10.00pm, here I am inclined to agree with you, though there is a reference I think by one of the staff (can't remember which one) to Dr McCann 'roaring like a bull' and running round like a mad thing around the pool at just before 10.00pm IIRC. But then there are other discrepancies aroud what happened at around this time; equally I find no convincing evidence from witnesses that Dr Kate McCann ran down to the Tapas restaurant as claimed. I think the alarm may have been raised with some sort of signal from around the McCanns' apartment when the agreed time (10.00pm) had been reached.

On the Smith sighting, I note that 'honeybunch' has referred to the McCanns discounting the Smith sighting.

On the contrary, the McCanns have carefully worked that sightging into their narrative of what happened that night. In the Channel 4/Mentorn documentary transmitted (I think) on 7 May 2009 (Known as the 'Mockumentary'), the McCann Team tried to combine the two 'sightings' - Tanner's at 9.15pm and Smith's at 9.50/9.55pm - even suggesting that both witnesses saw the child being carried in exactly the same way, which is manifestly incorrect (Tanner says: across both arms, Smith says: on his shoulders).

It is noteworthy that on pages 370-1 of her book, Dr Kate McCann makes much of the 'similarities' between the two descriptions of the men, which she declares are so 'striking' that 'they speak for themselves'.

Not to me they don't: Tanner man has thick, dark, long black hair while Smith man has, and I quote from Dr McCann's own book, 'short, brown' hair.

Besides that, the idea of an abductor wandering around Praia da Luz for 40 minutes or more with a child is risible.

I have always considered that the Smiths saw someone else, not Dr Gerald McCann.

I will re-read your book soon as we are currently looking at compiling some sort of digest of all the circumstantial evidence in this case and in that respect I think your book has much of interest for us.

Finally, I am currently researching material for a couple of our in-depth articles, one on Brian Kennedy and one on Metodo 3 detective Antonio Jimenez (the bloke who was suspected of corrupt activity with drug-dealers involving the theft of £25 million worth of cocaine and who was thrown into jail for this in February 2008). In the course of my research, I came across a Daily Mail article of 3 Novemebr 2007, which features some of Jimenez' work as a Metodo detective in Portugal, in which the writer said: "This is the most compelling mystery in living memory".

I expect you might agree.


As far as I can see, the pros spend an incredible amount of time spewing vitriolic stuff and calling people haters of Maddie and families of victims and the rest of the general folk just go with sympathy. Unless the "antis' and the media can really hit home the lack of evidence for the abduction and swing the pendulum the other way, I think the case will remain unsolved.

I hope my Profile can have impact but it needs to get to the media and people who are willing to promote it (or its message) or allow me to speak on the matter. Right now, the pros, and oddly, one sort-of-anti group who appears to be angry over the profile not being free or angry that I have a level of media presence in America, are attacking me right and left on Twitter and setting up websites accusing me of all sorts of nastiness. I can live with all that (won't be the first time I have had libelous stuff said about me and it won't be the last) but if there is not a push to getting my profile points into the media, it will be rather a waste. Certainly, considering I do television almost on a daily basis in the US and the money from this book is very small (I wanted it to be in the paid column under Kate McCann's book and at a small price not be be mocked as free and worthless..heh), I gain little from speaking out UNLESS it promotes a real investigation of the McCanns and the Tapas 7. This is what I hope but I need EVERYONE'S help spreading the word to websites, bloggers, on Amazon, and to the media. I AM rather an objective person (although some will say I have it out for the McCanns which, to some extent, is true but only because I believe they are not telling the truth, obstructing justice, taking people's money, and they committed a crime which led, in one way or another, to the death (or "abduction") of Madeleine) in that I am from the US, a professional profiler, well-known in the media, and have no stake in this case other than justice.

Pat Brown wrote:Honeybunch,

That bit about Gerry possibly hiding Madeleine's body and being back at the Tapas by ten was discussed in the profile! The question is, was Gerry really back at the Tapas by the time Kate announced Madeleine being missing? So far, I have not read any believable witnesses on that. There is also the possibility that Kate actually raise the alarm earlier and it was after discovering Maddie's body that Gerry went off to hide it. Much of that timeline is murky, but a couple of things are for sure; there is no proof of an abduction and the McCanns did not want the 10 pm sighting to be that of the abductor.

21:15/21:30 Between approximately a quarter past nine and half past nine, Ocean Club guest S.C. and his wife left the Tapas bar to go home: "We walked across the MW reception area, crossed the road and a semi-circular path to return to the apartment, were we put the children to bed and a short while later did the same ourselves. I do not remember seeing or hearing anyone during our return to the apartment. When I crossed the road outside the MW reception I remember there were cars parked, I remember taking some time to see if I could cross the road because there were cars parked to my left and I was carrying I****. They were about six metres away from me and I calculate that some (inaudible) metres from the back of Gerry's apartment, I do not remember anything about these cars, it was normal for cars to be parked there and in the morning they were no longer there. My wife mentioned on the following day that she vaguely remembered someone calling "Madeleine, Madeleine", this was after we had crossed the road from the MW reception and before entering our apartment. She does not remember where the sound came from or whether it was in an urgent tone, not paying any more attention to it and only remembered the following day when we heard about Madeleine's disappearance".

21:20, Executive Chef A.E.G.F.P. heard some clamour, which made him leave toward the restaurant, a few metres away, and was then informed that a child had disappeared.

At around 21:40, he left the restaurant passing through the same esplanade where moments before, he had seen the same table occupied by the three couples, empty, who had left in the meanwhile various items, principally clothing. He was told by his colleagues that the child who had disappeared was a child of one of those couples;

Property manager B.J.J.W. heard about the news being investigated on the evening of 3rd May at about 21:30 – 21:40 from P.B., a Dutchman and owner of the Atlántico restaurant, who passed by the witness near the Baptista supermarket, in Praia da Luz, and who asked for his help in searching for Madeleine. He then went to the place where the events occurred which was at about 21:45 – 21:50. At this time various local people and MW staff were present. When questioned he said that the police had not yet arrived and that about 5 minutes had passed.

Dinner finished at around 21:45 and some minutes passed where waiter R.A.E.D.L.O. looked towards the table but saw no one—his colleague told him that all the guests of that table left rapidly and abruptly. He remembers having heard shouts in the direction of the McCann apartment;

Between 21.30 and 22:00 Fitness instructor/Waiter J.R.S. went over to the table and joked with Dianne Webster: "They've left you alone?" She responded more of less with these words: "No, they went to see if the little girl was there." I responded that I hoped they would find her somewhere in the apartment. At saying this, I saw the man, who I knew later to be Madeleine's father, running to the pool and to the children's play area in the Tapas zone as if looking for someone. It immediately hit me that after talking to the older woman, that the little girl had not been found. I offered to alert the workers at the Millennium Restaurant and the man agreed. He then left again running to continue searching. I believe that this was between 21:30 and 22:00 but do not remember with certainty.

Approx. 21:55 The Smith Family, (4 adults and 5 children) are returning from 'Kelly's Bar', heading north, all spread out along the street and they pass a man walking down the middle of the street, carrying a child, with the head against his left shoulder and the arms hanging down alongside the body, in light coloured or pink pyjamas, bare feet, pale skin typical of British and blonde, shoulder-length hair; the girl is about 3-4 years old, about 1 metre tall. - The man is not dressed like a tourist; he's wearing cream or beige trousers, classic cut, of linen or cotton. He is white, 30-35 yrs, 1.70-1.80 meters tall, average build, physically fit, short, brown hair, with a face that looks tanned. (GA)

Mr Smith stated that the suspect he saw was wearing beige trousers, possibly with Buttons

Pat Brown wrote:
I have sent over an email to TalkSport radio and to Piers Morgan. I shall see if there is a response from either.

Big Vern wrote:

Pat Brown wrote:
I have sent over an email to TalkSport radio and to Piers Morgan. I shall see if there is a response from either.

I assure you that there will be no response Pat.
These people do NOT disobey their masters.

candyfloss wrote:Interesting comment on Pat's facebook page from Mike Hardy (spudgun I believe)............


Mike Hardy

Pat. For what it's worth, (and to me, personally, it's worth a LOT), it may interest you to know that 2 VERY Senior BRITISH police officers who have had involvement with the McCann case, (NOT Leicestershire officers), are of absolutely no doubt that Madeleine is dead and that her parents were complicit in her 'disappearance'.

I have had meetings with one of these officers recently in relation to a case I am working on in the North of England, and his knowledge of the McCann case is thorough and most impressive. Of course, I WILL not and CAN not, (at least for the forseable future), NAME the officers or their respective divisions, but it is comforting to know that the contrived tissue of lies and propoganda, as concocted by C. Mitchell Esq, does not extend to the decent, able and formidable skills of Britain's finest 'Old Bill', of the type that I was beginning to fear had all but disappeared

10 hours ago


ETA link https://www.facebook.com/pages/Profile-of-the-Disappearance-of-Madeleine-McCann/137592626316577?sk=wall

maebee wrote:I wonder why Galloway hasn't been Crucked? Plenty in that article to warrant it, by TM's standards.

Willo wrote:Thanks Get 'em Gonçalo. I see I sent my email after this was published. Maybe that article is what inspired me to write to Mr Galloway in the first place.

I felt his reply a poor response. I wanted him to ask questions in the House to end speculation not create more speculation.

I have not listened to his show in quite a while. I wonder if four years on, he would want to take up the cause today. He is never afraid to ask those questions that make you wince.

Pat Brown wrote:
As for the creche inquiry and the concept of an earlier time of death: I respect those following up this train of thought as one never knows what might be discovered.