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Post by Guest 26.05.11 14:23

Kitti wrote:Kate McCann said in her book that knowbody really knew them and didn't bother to get their medical records....LIE......they. were refused when mr amaral asked for them.


Kate McCann said that didn't even bother to speak to their doctor....LIE.....the doctors statement is in the files.


Sorry that's two lies ....


Garth......where are you tease


Doctor's statement here..........

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Post by Me 26.05.11 14:25

So question for Garth.

Given that Kitti has provided us with 3 examples of kate's lying are you now prepared to believe everything else in Kate's book or do you agree that given, there are 3 clear lies already shown, we must treat the rest of her "account" in context that she has proven to be a liar about aspects in this case?
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Post by Baronstu 26.05.11 14:28

Garth wrote:Raised as in about 1-2 inches max.
I don't need to try to raise THOSE shutters, i've had the same type, also as an engineer, I know the mechanism.
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Get on Baronstu!
 
Let me tell you, our double garage has a roller shutter door (not any more I hasten to add) and one evening...a few years ago mind, my sons 50cc KTM had been stolen. The shutters had been raised from the outside with brute force. No damage whatsover. And how did we know this.............because they were open.
 
Now, unless you know for sure that these shutters cannot be pushed up from the outside, and I mean testing them yourself, then we dont know for absolute certainty do we?

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We use the same IP because we live in the same building.

It aint that hard to work out!
 
 
 
 

That just doesn't make sense.
Proof that they're the same person.
SAS...........Another little porky IMHO.
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Post by newguest 26.05.11 14:38

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Garth sounds like gerry!

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Post by lj 26.05.11 14:46

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Kitti Today at 2:14 pm
Garth sounds like gerry!

Birds of a feather perhaps? [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

One would hope that Gerry as a doctor has a little bit more insight in some of the topics discussed.

Bet then, while I never had a high opinion of his medical skills, the latest "misdiagnosis" does not shine a favourable light.

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Post by Garth 26.05.11 17:36

Alas, I've proven my point........hooray, its been recognised.
 
So the author wasn't actually inferring that the McCanns were deliberately deviating from the truth, (according to our mate me)what the author was really trying to say is that they were mistaken. Excellent.
 
So these statements and I quote:
 
They lied about the distance from the apartment to the Tapas bar

They lied that you can see the apartment from the Tapas Bar

Should really read:
 
They were mistaken about the distance from the apartment to the Tapas bar.
 
and
 
They were mistaken that you can see the apartments from the Tapas bar.
 
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Post by RBxHN 26.05.11 19:10

Crikey, 10 pages to understand the meaning of the word lied.

How will they cope when they find out some truths?

Start your engines!

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Post by Me 26.05.11 19:13

Garth wrote:Alas, I've proven my point........hooray, its been recognised.

So the author wasn't actually inferring that the McCanns were deliberately deviating from the truth, (according to our mate me)what the author was really trying to say is that they were mistaken. Excellent.

So these statements and I quote:

They lied about the distance from the apartment to the Tapas bar

They lied that you can see the apartment from the Tapas Bar

Should really read:

They were mistaken about the distance from the apartment to the Tapas bar.

and

They were mistaken that you can see the apartments from the Tapas bar.

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No you haven't dear heart. But you keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better after yet another day on the back foot.

I bet you're glad i showed up here aren't you this past week or so?
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Post by Guest 26.05.11 19:15

Hehe - how can you be mistaken if you can see the apartments. You can either see them or you can't! big grin
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Post by niknaks08 26.05.11 19:21

Kitti wrote:Garth sounds like gerry!

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Post by RBxHN 26.05.11 19:21

candyfloss wrote:Hehe - how can you be mistaken if you can see the apartments. You can either see them or you can't! [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

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Post by RBxHN 26.05.11 19:23

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No you haven't dear heart. But you keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better after yet another day on the back foot.

I bet you're glad i showed up here aren't you this past week or so?[/quote]

Oh yes he has sweetness.
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Post by Me 26.05.11 19:25

Garth

Let’s clear up some loose ends from today before you go off on another tangent to try and gloss over being proven wrong again
you said:

And its got nothing to do with semantics. 'Lied' is a very easy word to understand.

Have a read again
a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive; an intentional untruth; a falsehood.

Bearing in mind I have explained to you there are 3 DIFFERENT definitions to the word “lie” do you now agree with me that the use of the word lie can be used to express ANY of the three defintions and not all of them at the same time.

Yes or no?
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Post by Kololi 26.05.11 19:40

"They were mistaken that you can see the apartments from the Tapas bar."


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Post by RBxHN 26.05.11 19:48

I dont mean to impose on your convo but Garth is travelling to London as we speak and wont be back till Saturday.
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Post by Me 26.05.11 19:51

RBxHN wrote:I dont mean to impose on your convo but Garth is travelling to London as we speak and wont be back till Saturday.

I thought you were the other personality in his head?
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Post by Guest 26.05.11 19:56

I'm confused too - no change there I guess some would say - as I thought it was definite that Garth and RBxHN are one and the same.
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Post by niknaks08 26.05.11 20:01

of course hes away hes got alot of book promotions to be shoving down peoples necks !
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Post by RBxHN 26.05.11 20:10

Marian wrote:I'm confused too - no change there I guess some would say - as I thought it was definite that Garth and RBxHN are one and the same.

You are confused!
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Post by niknaks08 26.05.11 20:33

just paid another visit to google realtime , funny that there doesnt seem to be many mccann supporters out there compared to all those questioning the mccanns , a quote on real time that made me smirk just like gm likes to ....... You'd better join the queue at the Job Centre, The [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] gravy-train is about to hit the buffers!
each time i check theres is about 1 pro mccann to 20 against , so id like to know where they get there figures from that the majority support them and we are just a small bunch of idiots lmao
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Post by Guest 26.05.11 20:52

niknaks08 wrote:just paid another visit to google realtime , funny that there doesnt seem to be many mccann supporters out there compared to all those questioning the mccanns , a quote on real time that made me smirk just like gm likes to ....... You'd better join the queue at the Job Centre, The [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] gravy-train is about to hit the buffers!
each time i check theres is about 1 pro mccann to 20 against , so id like to know where they get there figures from that the majority support them and we are just a small bunch of idiots lmao

And as Garth, RBxHN and Xaus are all the same person, as are Ringo, John-Paul and Plensa, I guess the McCann's don't have as many supporters as they think titter
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Post by tiny 26.05.11 21:19

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Post by Mini Slueth 26.05.11 21:23

And as Garth, RBxHN and Xaus are all the same person, as are Ringo, John-Paul and Plensa,


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Post by niknaks08 26.05.11 21:24

an article in the telegraph , i dont see the majority supporting them in the comments here .... [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], seems everywhere i look there are hardly any of these supporters and dwindling as each day passes
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Post by niknaks08 26.05.11 21:31

somethings changing as you can now comment on the mccann articles and they are not censored , ive noticed changes of wording in some articles ie missing instead of abducted , time is running out ........ your lies are catching you up sorry your "mistakes " should i say lol
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Post by WasNew 26.05.11 22:49

Thanks for pointing out the Telegraph article niknaks. I am just ploughing my way through the comments now. I am amazed that the Telegraph has allowed them to stay up, since so few follow the McCann party line black is white because we say so

It's interesting too that in her last sentence Allison Pearson talks about the parents being accused of being murderers - I don't think anyone has accused them of that, or not on this forum.

I think this is a case where Clarence spin machine in overdoing it has caused many, many more to question.
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Post by dragonfly 26.05.11 23:47

pp. 193-4 (taken from Tony's write up of Kate's book)
( I think this was within eight weeks of Madeleine being missing in order of chapters not sure on exact date)
The McCanns get an invitation to lunch from Sir Clement Freud, who has a house in Praia da Lyz. The McCanns accept and all go along with Trish and Sandy Cameron and Justine McGuiness. They all go along at mid-day. Clement Freud opened the meeting by asking Dr Kate: “Can I interest you in a strawberry vodka?” Dr Kate says: “Er, OK then, That would be nice” She enthuses about the lunch: “Lunch was bloody marvellous: watercress and egg salad followed by a chicken and mushroom risotto - the best risotto we’ve ever tasted before or since. Clement cheered us up with his lugubrious wit…” They later kept in touch by e-mail.

from womens magazine
For the first two years I couldn't let myself relax or do anything enjoyable. I couldn't watch TV, read or go out for a meal. Taking pleasure in anything felt so wrong. With Madeleine still missing, I felt guilty that we weren't spending every second looking for her.

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Post by LittleMissMolly 27.05.11 8:23

niknaks08 wrote:somethings changing as you can now comment on the mccann articles and they are not censored , ive noticed changes of wording in some articles ie missing instead of abducted , time is running out ........ your lies are catching you up sorry your "mistakes " should i say lol

This is amazing to me ... four long years of any negative or questioning comment being pre-modded into oblivion or removed within minutes and yet now, suddenly, any newspaper which allows comments (and more are doing so) is being inundated with posts sceptical about abduction (far more than initially when comments were allowed but I often felt like a lone voice) .... and those comments are being allowed to stand.

It doesn't just stop with UK papers either - many web forums where the topic has previously been banned are suddenly allowing un-censored threads on the issue.

Why the change? Is it that Fleet Street/Forum owners are finally waking up to the mood of the public? Is it the book? Is it the SY review and the implication that, as tax payers' money is involved now, the tax payers have a 'right of comment'?

I suspect the latter ... Thanks to the PM's announcement the case has now become officially political... and that makes a whole world of difference in terms of FOI, transparent accountability and freedom of speech.




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Post by Guest 27.05.11 9:38

It will be great if the whole charade comes crashing down like a house of cards but I won't put the flags out just yet. Going back to the never to be forgotten Garth, I have this image of him as the cartoon character the Tasmanian Devil, forever angry, charging around at breakneck speed and achieving very little.
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