Re: Christian Brueckner: To be or not to be

by **Silentscope** Thu 19 Sep - 14:00

It would be more interesting to know when they are going to give up trying to pin the tail on the patsy.

Christian Brueckner: To be or not to be - Page 33 Img_0470

The Hope is the last to die…

by **Jill Havern** Thu 26 Sep - 16:08

Christian Brueckner: To be or not to be - Page 33 2Q==

The Sun
Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brueckner ‘confessed to taking a child in Portugal’ as cellmate drops co...
17 hours ago

Christian Brueckner: To be or not to be - Page 33 9k=

LBC
Madeleine McCann suspect 'confessed to abducting girl from Portuguese apartment,' court hears
17 hours ago

Sky News
Christian B: Former cellmate said Madeleine McCann suspect 'bragged about a Portugal abduction,' German court hears
10 hours ago

Christian Brueckner: To be or not to be - Page 33 9k=

The Mirror
Madeleine McCann suspect 'confessed to abducting girl from Algarve apartment'
18 hours ago

Daily Record
Madeleine McCann's family now: Marriage struggles and heartfelt promise from siblings
9 hours ago

GB News
Madeleine McCann suspect 'confessed to stealing a child in Portugal' claims cellmate in bombshell testimony
15 hours ago

The Daily Beast
Suspect in Madeleine McCann Case Confessed to Taking Child in Portugal
8 hours ago

inews.co.uk
Madeleine McCann suspect ‘confessed to taking child in Portugal’, court told
13 hours ago

Christian Brueckner: To be or not to be - Page 33 Z

Daily Star
Main Madeleine McCann suspect 'admitted to snatching girl from Algarve apartment'
16 hours ago

by **Jill Havern** Thu 26 Sep - 16:11

Madeleine McCann bombshell: Christian Brueckner confessed to snatching girl from same Portugal resort and asked if DNA could be taken from buried bones, ex-cell mate claims in court

https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2024/09/25/madeleine-mccann-bombshell-christian-brueckner-confessed-to-snatching-girl-from-same-portugal-resort-and-asked-if-dna-could-be-taken-from-buried-bones-ex-cell-mate-claims-in-court/

by **Bird131** Thu 26 Sep - 16:26

"DNA taken from buried bones" (?)

by **CaKeLoveR** Thu 26 Sep - 16:33

These cell mates are honourable, decent chaps, aren't they?

by Justice for Maddie Thu 26 Sep - 17:46

It's also in the news in Germany here

https://m.bild.de/regional/niedersachsen/fall-maddie-neuer-zeuge-will-gestaendnis-gehoert-haben-66f2c7123fe25e160dfe040d?t_ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F

Witness incriminates Christian B. heavily:

"He climbed into an open window. He didn't find money. But a child. He asked if you could take DNA from bones and if I could set fire on a house on the countryside."

by **PeterMac** Thu 26 Sep - 18:05

Hotels for rich people, open window, went in to steal GOLD, but took a child instead . . .

WE must always remember that very large numbers of long term prisoners are mentally unstable and a lot live in a parallel universe where crime and punishment are not linked, where there. is no such things as a code of Morals or decency. Truth is an unknown concept, and revenge is the only thing which exists in their future.

by **Jill Havern** Thu 26 Sep - 18:31

From Bernt:

1) no open window visible behind closed shutters.
2) "a child - the child" , there were allegedly three children in the bedroom. (Maddie was already dead 22 hours, but let's play along).
3) two hours later CB could not know what was going on in Luz, as he was having sex in his van in Carvoeiro, with his alibi...
4) Luz is not a place for rich people.

by pinkgladioli Thu 26 Sep - 19:06

Even by 2007 standards the likes of apartment 5A looked pretty basic and not the type of apartment you would associate rich people to vacation in

by **crusader** Thu 26 Sep - 19:21

Depends on how you look at it.
People who can't afford to go on holiday would think it was luxury, I wouldn't rule it out myself.
I don't think the McCann's and tapas lot cared much about luxury even though they could afford to stay somewhere much more expensive.
I think the main priority was the amount of childcare and sports facilities the Ocean Club offered so early in the season.

by **PeterMac** Thu 26 Sep - 19:25

INTERSTINGLY . . . Kay Burley was on form this morning.
After brilliantly eviscerating the Labour MP whose turn it was in the chair she listened to the report on the
M Case and then said to camera, [words to the effect . ]
"But the police found th window locked from the inside . . . I suppose they'll have a look at that !"

I'll see if it comes up again and try to record her actual words

by **Nina** Thu 26 Sep - 19:37

PeterMac wrote:Hotels for rich people, open window, went in to steal GOLD, but took a child instead . . .

WE must always remember that very large numbers of long term prisoners are mentally unstable and a lot live in a parallel universe where crime and punishment are not linked, where there. is no such things as a code of Morals or decency. Truth is an unknown concept, and revenge is the only thing which exists in their future.

I am thinking that I am in a parallel universe PeterMac. I was under the impression that this man, though a criminal was nothing to do with Madeleine McCann. Strange too the query about the bones of a buried person and dna of another being found on the deceased.
Has The Sudden Impulse any link to these latest front page articles.

by **Cammerigal** Thu 26 Sep - 19:51

From todays Times: We find once again a prison witness with zero credibility, a Romanian who needed a German interpreter.

However, Laurentiu Codin, 50, a Romanian convict and biogas plant worker who was in the same prison as Brückner for a period in 2020, said Brückner had confessed to kidnapping a “kid” on the Algarve.
Speaking through an interpreter and occasionally appearing to ramble, Codin said Brückner had visited his cell and taken him into his confidence because he mistook him for a fellow paedophile.
“[Brückner] told me that in Portugal, that he had stolen there,” Codin told Braunschweig regional court. “He was in a region of hotels where people are there, not sure how you say, rich people, where rich people live

by Justice for Maddie Thu 26 Sep - 19:55

by pinkgladioli Thu 26 Sep - 20:04

crusader wrote:Depends on how you look at it.
People who can't afford to go on holiday would think it was luxury, I wouldn't rule it out myself.
I don't think the McCann's and tapas lot cared much about luxury even though they could afford to stay somewhere much more expensive.
I think the main priority was the amount of childcare and sports facilities the Ocean Club offered so early in the season.

I wasn’t meaning it from a McC perspective, Luxury and Portugal was mentioned there are far more wealthier luxury resorts a thief could target

by **crusader** Thu 26 Sep - 20:34

CB was living in Praia da Luz at the time, so it was his "local".
I dare say he looted everywhere he went.

by Amy Dean Thu 26 Sep - 21:05

What a load of you know what!

by **crusader** Thu 26 Sep - 21:36

Yvonne Martin said Kate told her a couple had taken Madeleine.

by Justice for Maddie Thu 26 Sep - 21:40

by **PeterMac** Thu 26 Sep - 21:42

If he needs an interpreter from Romanian to German in court, I am fairly confident that the judge will spot that his understanding of what may of may not have been said to him in German a decade and half ago might just, conceivably, perhaps have suffered from a ‘language barrier”
abduction. German.” Entführung”. Romanian “ Răpirea”
Burglary. Herman “Einbruch”. Romanian. “spargerse

by Amy Dean Thu 26 Sep - 21:44

Justice for Maddie wrote:
crusader wrote:Yvonne Martin said Kate told her a couple had taken Madeleine.

Murat and his wife?

I've not heard that.

He was divorced; his ex-wife lived in the U K.

by Justice for Maddie Thu 26 Sep - 21:47

by **PeterMac** Thu 26 Sep - 22:38

I think that was at the time when Kate was becoming ever more incoherent and inventing ‘stuff’ just to fill in the obvious gaps in the official story.
We went from An abductor, to a paedophile, to a paedophile ring, to a couple, to someone watching them for the whole week and “Making notes”, to . . .
Well anything else she could think of to draw attention away from the fact that there was no evidence at all to support their original claim.
They were in a desperate situation as their story fell apart, and resorted to forging photos, planting ludicrous stories in Women’s magazines,
And everything else, as we well remember.

by Justice for Maddie Thu 26 Sep - 23:10

by **crusader** Thu 26 Sep - 23:40

I could believe CB was telling lies when he said he was with a girl in his van on the night Madeleine disappeared, he said he took her to the airport the day after, using her as his alibi.
They were stopped by the police on the way to the airport and the girl was found with a pepper spray or some such thing and a police report was made so that is definitely the truth.
Does this sound like the actions of someone who abducted and killed Madeleine, then spent the night in his van with a girl and then drove her to the airport the day after?

by **Silentscope** Fri 27 Sep - 2:51

All this is just like watching a drowning Man clutching at Straw to keep himself afloat.

But it is a Couple now drowning in their own Lies.

Someone is throwing them a Romanian Rubber ring.

Fat Controller?

by Justice for Maddie Fri 27 Sep - 3:10

by **Silentscope** Fri 27 Sep - 3:36

Ist der Zeuge glaubhaft?

Dass er nun von entführten und missbrauchten Kindern zu erzählen begann, überraschte selbst die Staatsanwaltschaft. Zumal der Zeuge vor der Mittagspause noch behauptet hatte, er erinnere sich an kaum etwas.
Umso genauer wurden seine Ausführungen nach der Pause. Im Zusammenhang mit der Entführung des Kindes habe ihn Brückner um Rat gefragt, so der Zeuge: „Er erzählte, dass er sich abgestützt habe, als er aus dem Fenster rausgesprungen sei. Er fragte mich dann, ob er dabei Spuren hinterlassen haben könnte.“
Oberstaatsanwältin Ute Lindemann wies den Zeugen darauf hin, dass er bei der Polizei anders ausgesagt hatte: Brückner habe ihn gefragt, ob man seine DNA-Spuren auf Knochen unter der Erde finden könne. Stimmt, erinnerte sich der Zeuge: „Ob es das Kind betrifft, weiß ich nicht. Aber er hat mich das gefragt.“

Is the witness credible?

The fact that he now started to tell of kidnapped and abused children were surprised by the public prosecutor herself. Especially since the witness had claimed before the lunch break, he hardly remembers anything.

His remarks became all the more precise after the break. In connection with the kidnapping of the child, Brückner asked him for advice, said the witness: "He said that he had supported himself when he jumped out of the window. He then asked me if he could have left his traces on the window ledge.”

Senior State Attorney Ute Lindemann pointed out to the witness that he had testified before differently to the police: Brückner had asked him if his DNA traces could be found on bones underground. True, the witness remembered: “I don’t know whether he is concerned to the child. But he asked me that.”

Translated from Bild, who got the Story from nine.com.au

Make of it what you will...

spin

by **PeterMac** Fri 27 Sep - 6:35

UNFORTUNATELY

None of the Main stream Media or the gutter press bothered to report the rest of the evidence presented to the court

We are indebted to Isabelle for her FB posting of what happened next.

Christian Brueckner: To be or not to be - Page 33 333

Christian Brueckner: To be or not to be - Page 33 127

Christian Brueckner: To be or not to be - Page 33 215

Did Jon Clarke report on this ?
He won't let me access his rag, so if anyone can we would all be grateful for the sordid details

Small wonder that the prosecution tried to get Judge Ute Engemenn chucked off the case. She asks too many questions !

And again we are left wondering . . Who told him or paid him or threatened him to tell this ludicrous story ?
Who is controlling him, and who is controlling Clarke ?

by **PeterMac** Fri 27 Sep - 7:05

The original is from Bild reporter Kai Feldhaus, a professional journalist, not a retread geography student, and who SPEAKS GERMAN …..

Christian Brueckner: To be or not to be - Page 33 Img_1711

Neat wording of his final comment !