Re: New DCI

by Liz Eagles 01.01.15 14:14

DCI Wall has only four years to complete her 30 year service.

Operation Grange is now three and a half years old. Andy Redwood is retired.

Here he is quoted (Daily Mirror)

Mr Redwood said: "After careful consideration and a full and rewarding career in the Met the time is right for me to move on.

"The past three and a half years leading Operation Grange has been an extraordinary privilege, and I leave the investigation in the very capable hands of my experienced colleague Nicola."

Will Nicola Wall be passing on the ~~poisoned chalice~~ Operation Grange baton to another experienced colleague in around 4 years time?

Is Operation Grange a pre-retirement gig?

Just my opinion.

by mysterion 01.01.15 14:30

Perhaps AR and DrA could get their retired heads together to solve this case unfettered by their superiors` constraints, if any.

by Liz Eagles 01.01.15 15:03

mysterion wrote:Perhaps AR and DrA could get their retired heads together to solve this case unfettered by their superiors` constraints, if any.

that's possibly one of the most ridiculous comments I've heard on the forum.

by jeanmonroe 02.01.15 11:29

aquila wrote:
mysterion wrote:Perhaps AR and DrA could get their retired heads together to solve this case unfettered by their superiors` constraints, if any.
that's possibly one of the most ridiculous comments I've heard on the forum.

I think you'll posibly find, that PJ inspector, GA, 'solved' this er, 'case' many years ago. winkwink

by **PeterMac** 10.01.15 15:11

An interesting silence has descended on SY.
No updates, apparently no leaks, no statements, nothing.

by pennylane 10.01.15 15:35

PeterMac wrote:An interesting silence has descended on SY.
No updates, apparently no leaks, no statements, nothing.

Yes well, you'll just have to wait like the rest of us...........

for the McCann vs Amaral libel trial verdict....

by Doug D 10.01.15 15:57

Chapter (Day) 14, 21st January 2015, for 'reading of proven facts'.

Chapter 15, February, verdict at last, maybe?

by **Tony Bennett** 10.01.15 16:01

PeterMac wrote:An interesting silence has descended on SY.
No updates, apparently no leaks, no statements, nothing.

A Wall of silence?

by Guest 10.01.15 16:11

The way it should be? The right way?

by pennylane 10.01.15 16:29

Doug D wrote:Chapter (Day) 14, 21st January 2015, for 'reading of proven facts'.

Chapter 15, February, verdict at last, maybe?

Yes, hopefully Chapter 15 = The verdict of the libel trial, which (imo) the McCanns will LOSE spectacularly!

And we shall see if once again, running a loud parallel to events in Lisbon, are the new DCI and her Operation Grange team hotly pursuing yet another round of 'persons of interest' in the Algarve... whilst the two lying culprits sit right under their noses!

by **PeterMac** 10.01.15 17:33

pennylane wrote:
And we shall see if once again, running a loud parallel to events in Lisbon, are the new DCI and her Operation Grange team hotly pursuing yet another round of 'persons of interest' in the Algarve... whilst the two lying culprits sit right under their noses!

Mitchell has to find something to do. He is at 33-1 with some bookies. 50-1 with others.
What a joy if he lost his deposit.
But he may get the 5%. There are probably sufficient pink shirt wearers in the Constituency . . .

by **PeterMac** 10.01.15 17:45

Tony Bennett wrote:
A Wall of silence?

On which are sitting TWO Humpty Dumpties ?

Humpty Dumpty, and Humptie Dumptie ?

Waiting for their fall.
And all the King's Counsel and all the King's-Bench-Walk Men, won't be able to put them together again -
(which HD ♀ told the world on the front page of the Sun anyway !)

by ultimaThule 11.01.15 0:36

If their place on top of the wall becomes precarious it could be that the King's Counsel will advise Humpty to secure his positon by pushing Humptie off, or vice versa.

Or it could be that other inhabitants of Nurseryland will hold a blanket under the wall to cushion the fall while singing a few choruses of:
"Jump you f*cker, jump.
Jump into this 'ere blanket
Wot we are holding
And you will be alright"

(He jumped
Hit the deck
Broke his f*cking neck
There was no blanket)
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by Guest 11.01.15 9:04

Are TM encouraged by the silence I wonder,like wot they was encouraged when there was a bit of landscaping and dog walking last year.

by jeanmonroe 12.01.15 13:49

Anyone care to 'guess' under what 'pretext' DCI Wall and her 'team', will, if she does, be in Portugal around about, say, February time, say, again, about libel case 'conclusion' 'time'?

A) She's 'found' a new 195 'investigative opportunities' after having the Portuguese 'files' re-interpreted, AGAIN.

B) She's going to 'solve' all of Portugal's 'paedophile' problems, as there are none of 'those' er, problems, left in the UK to 'solve'

or

C) 'top up' the Op Grange's stock of duty frees, as DCI Mahogany's 'retirement' do, put rather a 'dent' into the OG duty free booze 'stock room'

'C' is a 'joke',................ or is it? winkwink

by Doug D 12.01.15 20:50

Possibly a new boss for Wall?

Met Police Press Release 12-Jan-2015 16:01

Patricia Gallan is Met's new Assistant Commissioner for Specialist Crime and Operations

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] has today been announced as the Met's Assistant Commissioner for Specialist Crime and Operations.   Patricia moves from her current role as Deputy Assistant Commissioner for Specialist Operations - Security and Protection.  She said: "I am pleased and honoured to be appointed to this post and excited about the opportunity it presents to work with some of the best detectives in the country plus a diverse range of operational units, all of which contribute to making London a safer place to be."  Commissioner Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe said: "I am delighted to welcome Patricia to her new post. Having worked with her for several years, I know her commitment, professionalism and wealth of experience will be a real asset to this role."  Born and brought up in Scotland, Patricia joined the Met in 1987. She began her policing career at Stoke Newington in east London, where she served in uniform before transferring to CID.  In March 2000, she moved to Specialist Operations at New Scotland Yard and led the Met unit dealing with informants. Trained in 1997 as a hostage negotiator, Patricia was regularly deployed to a variety of incidents. As a Detective Superintendent, she worked in covert policing before serving as staff officer to the then Deputy Commissioner. She was promoted in-post to Detective Chief Superintendent.   Patricia left the Met in January 2005 to pursue other opportunities, including Assistant Chief Constable with the National Crime Squad, leading on undercover policing operations, informants, witness protection and intelligence. From January 2006 until she rejoined the Met, Patricia was Assistant Chief Constable at Merseyside Police with responsibility for operational support, including serious and organised crime, the mounted branch and roads policing.  She was on secondment to the Home Office as a temporary Deputy Chief Constable, working in the Police Value for Money Team, before rejoining the Met in May 2012 as Deputy Assistant Commissioner in charge of the Directorate of Professionalism.   Patricia is expected to begin her new role in the next month and will have overall responsibility for units including the Homicide and Major Crime Command, Trident, the Sexual Offences, Exploitation and Child Abuse Command, the firearms command, intelligence, public order and traffic.  She takes over from Cressida Dick who leaves the Met on Monday, 19 January to take up a new role at the Foreign and Commonwealth Office.  The vacant role of DAC SO will be filled in due course.

by Knitted 12.01.15 21:06

"Cressida Dick"? Wasn't that a Viz character?

by **PeterMac** 12.01.15 22:43

Are there any men left on the Madeleine McCann case ? In England or in Portugal ?
Perhaps now the tiny tears and the Cadaver Cat will no longer be significant factors

Perhaps now the participants will be judged on their veracity, rather than on the size of their tits.

I have a dream, that one day . . . .

by ChippyM 12.01.15 22:57

Knitted wrote:"Cressida Dick"? Wasn't that a Viz character?

I dunno, she is well known for overseeing an electrician being repeatedly shot in the head and not being held responsible though.

"Mr de Menezes, 27, a Brazilian electrician, was shot dead at Stockwell underground station in south London on July 22, 2005. He had been mistaken by police for Hussain Osman, one of four would-be suicide bombers who had tried and failed to blow themselves up on the capital's transport network the previous day.
Michael Mansfield, QC, representing the de Menezes family at the inquest into his death, said Ms Dick "dismally failed" to minimise the risk to the Brazilian.
She replied: "I follow you sir, I don't accept it."
Ms Dick ran the operation from a control room at Scotland Yard and said yesterday that she believed Mr de Menezes death was the result of "extraordinary circumstances" but that no one was to blame. Asked if she was unable to take responsibility for her actions, she replied: "I regard myself as somebody who will always take full responsibility for what I have done."
Mr Mansfield said that events spiralled out of control because from the very beginning police were "sprinting to catch up with something that had not been properly organised".
Ms Dick admitted that the first hour of the day was "appalling" because there was "no structure" but added that it was common for police operations to be chaotic in their early stages as commanders attempted to pull together thousands of officers."

She is also a graduate of 'Common Purpose'.
"Although it has 80,000 trainees in 36 cities, 18,000 graduate members and enormous power, Common Purpose is largely unknown to the general public.
It recruits and trains "leaders" to be loyal to the directives of Common Purpose and the EU, instead of to their own departments, which they then undermine or subvert, the NHS being an example."
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by ultimaThule 12.01.15 23:07

I have it on good authority that taverns around Broadway SW1 and throughout areas served by the Metropolitan Police have ordered extra stock to cater for the celebration of ~~D-Day~~ Burns Night. yes

by Knitted 12.01.15 23:30

ChippyM wrote:

(Snipped) She is also a graduate of 'Common Purpose'.
"Although it has 80,000 trainees in 36 cities, 18,000 graduate members and enormous power, Common Purpose is largely unknown to the general public.
It recruits and trains "leaders" to be loyal to the directives of Common Purpose and the EU, instead of to their own departments, which they then undermine or subvert, the NHS being an example."
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... I resigned from my (very) well-paid job to run a 'not for profit' small business when people in my company started attending 'Learn, Use, Lead' "Common Purpose" training courses.

Amongst my immediate directorate colleagues we had three (genuine) ex-SAS members and one ex-Para/Northern Ireland 'Comms/Intelligence' (who'd dated an IRA member's daughter during the 'Troubles' whilst in the pay of HMG)... Oh, and a (very alcoholic... but never sacked) ex-member of the Rhodesian Special Forces. ... Oh, and as I carry on typing, I've just realised one of my best friends was an-ex MOSSAD guy (How easily we forget!) that I regularly played 'Foosball' with at Bar Kick in Shoreditch.

All this amongst a single 'team', immersed in a larger organisation, that although a Ltd. company, received HMG funding to remain solvent.

The above are the ones I knew about... I socialised with them and had many a night out with them. No idea if there were any more, (I have my very strong suspicions about one other who was recruited in the same week as two others (who were ex-SAS)... was deaf in one ear... often went sick with stress...and admitted his name (when I got to know him and during a quiet moment started offering to do colleagues' family trees... but couldn't find him) was not his real name but never let on what his original name was)

Honestly...and seriously.

The company was a UK household name. A 'Ltd.' company... but with the parent 'group' wholly owned by a 'Group; with HMG as the major shareholder. I came to realise we were a 'dumping ground', or 'valuable half-way house', (depending on your perspective), for those that had served the Establishment well.

As I say... I left when it became apparent we were being used as a testbed for 'Learn, Use, Lead' for 'Common Purpose'.

by Gaggzy 14.01.15 1:39

Knitted wrote:"Cressida Dick"? Wasn't that a Viz character?

Cressida Dick?

A - A sexually transmitted infection?

B - An American porn star?

C - The identity of the real whale which attacked the Pequod, killing Captain Ahab? (Moby is innocent).

D - A Viz character?

Answers on a postcard, please, to the following address :

FTAO Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe (the fluck did he get this job?)
The Metropolitan Police
Scotland Yard (on tour)
Praia da Luz (near Harold Webb's place)
Portugal

..... oh yes you did!

by Knitted 14.01.15 1:48

Excellent!! banana

I shall be chuckling in my sleep tonight !!

by ultimaThule 14.01.15 2:42

A choice between a dose of the Cressidas, Linda Lovelace reincarnated, an innocent whale, or a member of S.W.A.N.T? Je Suis Moby, Gaggzy yes

But don't mock Bernie... although he wasn't able to remember the name 'Madeleine, he did come up with another word beginning with 'M':
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by ChippyM 14.01.15 13:29

Knitted wrote:
ChippyM wrote:

(Snipped) She is also a graduate of 'Common Purpose'.
"Although it has 80,000 trainees in 36 cities, 18,000 graduate members and enormous power, Common Purpose is largely unknown to the general public.
It recruits and trains "leaders" to be loyal to the directives of Common Purpose and the EU, instead of to their own departments, which they then undermine or subvert, the NHS being an example."
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... I resigned from my (very) well-paid job to run a 'not for profit' small business when people in my company started attending 'Learn, Use, Lead' "Common Purpose" training courses.
...............
...........

The company was a UK household name. A 'Ltd.' company... but with the parent 'group' wholly owned by a 'Group; with HMG as the major shareholder. I came to realise we were a 'dumping ground', or 'valuable half-way house', (depending on your perspective), for those that had served the Establishment well.

As I say... I left when it became apparent we were being used as a testbed for 'Learn, Use, Lead' for 'Common Purpose'.

All very interesting ....and sinister. I don't suppose you have any trouble believing the McCann's or the mess they got themselves into may have certain connections or similarities.

by Gaggzy 14.01.15 15:22

ultimaThule wrote:A choice between a dose of the Cressidas, Linda Lovelace reincarnated, an innocent whale, or a member of S.W.A.N.T? Je Suis Moby, Gaggzy

But don't mock Bernie... although he wasn't able to remember the name 'Madeleine, he did come up with another word beginning with 'M':
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I just listened to Bernie Hyphen Howe on that interview.

It's a case of 'well there you have it.' Straight from the horse's mouth, as it were.

The head honcho of the Metropolitan Police telling everyone that the FAMILY gave the dossier to the police, and that the police are investigating the MURDER 'of the McCann daughter ...'

It doesn't get any clearer than that clapping

by Joss 14.01.15 15:49

Gaggzy wrote:
ultimaThule wrote:A choice between a dose of the Cressidas, Linda Lovelace reincarnated, an innocent whale, or a member of S.W.A.N.T? Je Suis Moby, Gaggzy

But don't mock Bernie... although he wasn't able to remember the name 'Madeleine, he did come up with another word beginning with 'M':
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I just listened to Bernie Hyphen Howe on that interview.

It's a case of 'well there you have it.' Straight from the horse's mouth, as it were.

The head honcho of the Metropolitan Police telling everyone that the FAMILY gave the dossier to the police, and that the police are investigating the MURDER 'of the McCann daughter ...'

It doesn't get any clearer than that

Said "Murder" and then quickly corrected himself. Although i believe it is what is being investigated is the murder of Madeleine, and that is why they were digging in Portugal, looking for remains, IMO.
Also the bit about 10 yrs. in prison for threatening to kill someone. Hope they are going to charge the person/s responsible for death threats against Brenda Leyland then.

by jeanmonroe 15.01.15 13:12

Perhaps DCI Wall could spend a few minutes watching this video?

by secrets and lies 15.01.15 19:07

Fascinating video. So much seems to be contained in those few short clips placed in this context.

What sort of terrifying minds are we dealing with?

by jeanmonroe 27.01.15 13:50

Anyone care to 'hazard a guess' as to WHAT DCI Wall, 36 days in 'charge' of OG, has SPENT the almost 'a quarter of a millon' pounds, (36 days @£6,778 a day)(£244,008.00p) she has 'received' from the HO, via a taxpayer funded 'grant', to 'investigate' the 'disappearance' of a three years old child in 2007.?

Amelie McCann (aged 2): "Maddie's jammies!".