New DCI

by Guest 05.12.14 11:15

According to the BBC Home Affairs Correspondent Danny Shaw a new DCI by the name of Nicola Wall will be in Portugal next week.

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by splurgegun 05.12.14 11:45

according to @JerryLawton, DCI Nicola Wall, of Met's Homicide and Major Crime Command, will take over Op Grange on December 22

i wonder if a woman is less likely to go along with a whitewash?
we now have female prosecutors in Portugal and the UK, and a female DCI in the UK
i don't think they have women in the Freemasons
are women less likely to turn a blind eye to child abuse?

by Woofer 05.12.14 11:56

From May 2013 Vogue

I think she may be the blonde lady on the far right.
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"Another grey day, this time in central London, and the aftershocks of the Met's corruption scandals and Operations Weeting and Elveden are still rippling the walls of the meeting room at Scotland Yard, where I find DCI Nicola Wall. Wall has served 25 years at the Met, eight as a DCI, and heads up the Murder Investigation Team in west London. She's also a trained hostage and crisis negotiator. Married two years ago, her husband does contract work in the Middle East and she sees him sporadically. "We don't have children," she says briskly. "I've got the greatest respect for women who balance both - because that's fantastic - but I don't have to. And I've got a house in Putney, and I have a really nice life."
For Wall, there is no typical murder. No two jobs are the same. "We could end up with the Tia Sharp jobs of this world," she says of the 12-year-old whose body was discovered at her grandmother's house last August. "And then there are jobs that are equally as difficult as those, but that just somehow don't get that media spark." She usually has about six or seven live cases at any one time, and prides herself on her investigative speed; she is only partially joking when she attributes her low media profile to the fact "we solve cases so quickly nobody gets involved…"
A diminutive peroxide blonde, with fine cheekbones and a faint Derbyshire accent, she cuts an unusual figure. "I'm a bit different," she admits. "The jury nearly fell over last time I was in the box!" She's glad that the current crop of TV detectives are not "as mumsy" as their forebears and has a small fondness for Saga Noren "because she's quite feminine, very glamorous, very pretty and very capable, too."
As plainclothes officers, the detectives are united in their determination to look good. Wall especially enjoys playing with her femininity, if only to shake up the stuffier factions of the Met that still exist. "I usually wear a heel, and I always paint my nails," she says with a toss of her well-groomed head. "They usually brighten a day."

"It's a pitiable truth that some stories don't have happy endings. Or resolution. How is it possible to protect oneself from scenes such as these? Surely everyone has to become a hard-nosed cop in the end? Wall answers it best. "I don't think you harden to anything like that. Not at all," she explains. "After every case, you have to self-reflect. I always think about the person that's lost their life, because that's really who we work for, somebody who's been killed. They haven't got a voice any more. It's dreadful and you do get upset. And that doesn't diminish with time." But you keep doing it: "Because you're doing something good. Because it is commitment. Everything you've got, and every skill you've got, and everything you can muster to do is a very good thing to do. And when we get people, justice is done, but we can't bring the person back."
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by **PeterMac** 05.12.14 12:17

Heads up the MURDER Investigation Team . .

Oh dear !
Spin that one Mitchell.

by **PeterMac** 05.12.14 12:21

One a month

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by **PeterMac** 05.12.14 12:24

Plain speaking. Plain English. No spin. Sounds good. Look how she dealt with the Press.

Body found in suitcase in north London
Woman's body found by police in a wooded area at a sports ground in East Mill Hill
James Meikle
The Guardian, Monday 22 July 2013 12.36 BST
A murder investigation is under way after the discovery of a woman's body in a suitcase in north London.
The body was found by police searching a wooded area by a sports ground in East Mill Hill at about 5pm on Sunday, after they had been called by a member of the public.
The Metropolitan police said the woman, who was white, had not been identified and a postmortem was due to take place on Tuesday afternoon.
Detectives from the Met's homicide and serious crime unit are investigating. A cordon remains in place in the area where the body was found.

DCI Nicola Wall said: "It's a suitcase, nothing extraordinary about that. It's not the biggest suitcase in the world. Who that body is I don't know. That's what we are trying to find out.

"We have worked throughout the night and we are working as hard as we can to find out who is in that suitcase and how they came to be there.

by Guest 05.12.14 12:28

I like the cut of her jib,not one to be messed with I'd venture,thats why she heads up the Murder investigation team,and now takes on another case,abduction? yeh right!.

by aiyoyo 05.12.14 12:30

The timing is interesting. She will come on board on Dec 22, post the next week interview in Portugal.

Closing in on the perps surely ?

by Guest 05.12.14 12:35

I always think about the person that's lost their life, because that's really who we work for, somebody who's been killed. They haven't got a voice any more. It's dreadful and you do get upset. And that doesn't diminish with time." But you keep doing it: "Because you're doing something good. Because it is commitment. Everything you've got, and every skill you've got, and everything you can muster to do is a very good thing to do. And when we get people, justice is done, but we can't bring the person back."

Let's hope she gets a grip on this case. Her comments above impress me. At last ......?

by Gaggzy 05.12.14 12:44

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Ha. I wouldn't rate Jelly McCann's chances in front of these three.

'But ... but ... the dogs didn't detect blood in the apartment ....'

'QUIET, you snivelling little man. Sit down and smell the coffee!' DCI Wall roared.

by Doug D 05.12.14 12:45

Met Police Press release:

DCI Andy Redwood retiring from MPS

05-Dec-2014 12:31

Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood is retiring from the MPS in December 2014.   DCI Redwood was the lead officer of Op Grange, the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.  DCI Nicola Wall from the Homicide and Major Crime Command will take over on Monday 22 December and lead the dedicated team of detectives currently working on this case.   A comprehensive handover is ongoing, and the family and other interested parties have been informed.  The team is travelling to Portugal on Monday 8 December to carry out further enquiries, and DCI Wall will meet with the Portuguese authorities later in the week.

DCI Redwood said: “After careful consideration and a full and rewarding career in the Met the time is right for me to move on.   "The past three and a half years leading Operation Grange has been an extraordinary privilege, and I leave the investigation in the very capable hands of my experienced colleague Nicola."

by aiyoyo 05.12.14 12:58

Seems I got it wrong upthread. DCI Wall will be the one going to Portugal next week, succeeding Redwood who, if report is to be believed will be retiring from the Force.

So the oft-talked about Redwood early retirement isn't speculation after all it would appear.

Very strange timing, unless it is only half a story. You'd think he would want to see the case to the case, after all it can't be that much longer now to the end. Also credit due for a half done job won't have quite the same impact as a successful conviction case.

Also, I can't see why a head of Homicide would be put in charge of whitewash (if that).

by sar 05.12.14 13:14

Woofer wrote:From May 2013 Vogue

I think she may be the blonde lady on the far right.
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"Another grey day, this time in central London, and the aftershocks of the Met's corruption scandals and Operations Weeting and Elveden are still rippling the walls of the meeting room at Scotland Yard, where I find DCI Nicola Wall. Wall has served 25 years at the Met, eight as a DCI, and heads up the Murder Investigation Team in west London. She's also a trained hostage and crisis negotiator. Married two years ago, her husband does contract work in the Middle East and she sees him sporadically. "We don't have children," she says briskly. "I've got the greatest respect for women who balance both - because that's fantastic - but I don't have to. And I've got a house in Putney, and I have a really nice life."
For Wall, there is no typical murder. No two jobs are the same. "We could end up with the Tia Sharp jobs of this world," she says of the 12-year-old whose body was discovered at her grandmother's house last August. "And then there are jobs that are equally as difficult as those, but that just somehow don't get that media spark." She usually has about six or seven live cases at any one time, and prides herself on her investigative speed; she is only partially joking when she attributes her low media profile to the fact "we solve cases so quickly nobody gets involved…"
A diminutive peroxide blonde, with fine cheekbones and a faint Derbyshire accent, she cuts an unusual figure. "I'm a bit different," she admits. "The jury nearly fell over last time I was in the box!" She's glad that the current crop of TV detectives are not "as mumsy" as their forebears and has a small fondness for Saga Noren "because she's quite feminine, very glamorous, very pretty and very capable, too."
As plainclothes officers, the detectives are united in their determination to look good. Wall especially enjoys playing with her femininity, if only to shake up the stuffier factions of the Met that still exist. "I usually wear a heel, and I always paint my nails," she says with a toss of her well-groomed head. "They usually brighten a day."

"It's a pitiable truth that some stories don't have happy endings. Or resolution. How is it possible to protect oneself from scenes such as these? Surely everyone has to become a hard-nosed cop in the end? Wall answers it best. "I don't think you harden to anything like that. Not at all," she explains. "After every case, you have to self-reflect. I always think about the person that's lost their life, because that's really who we work for, somebody who's been killed. They haven't got a voice any more. It's dreadful and you do get upset. And that doesn't diminish with time." But you keep doing it: "Because you're doing something good. Because it is commitment. Everything you've got, and every skill you've got, and everything you can muster to do is a very good thing to do. And when we get people, justice is done, but we can't bring the person back."
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by **PeterMac** 05.12.14 13:26

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by jeanmonroe 05.12.14 13:36

DCI Mahogany said: “After careful consideration and a full and rewarding career in the Met the time is right for me to move on.   "The past three and a half years leading Operation Grange has been an extraordinary privilege,

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:wtf2: "EXTRAORDINARY PRIVILEGE'? what

To date, and after, a THREE AND A HALF YEARS, £10+MILLION 'investigation' and not a scintilla of evidence, produced by DCI Mahogany or 37 FULL TIME police staff, of an 'abduction' by 'anyone'!

"EXTRAORDINARY" is exactly the RIGHT 'word' to use!

Not a SNIFF, not a JOT, not a clue, zero, zilch, nada, nothing, nil, of 'evidence' of ANY 'stranger' committing a 'criminal act' at apartment G5A, Mark Warner, Ocean Club, Praia Da Luz, on the 3rd May 2007.

"EXTRAORDINARY!"

I 'wonder' IF the board of directors of Madeleine's Fund: a registered PRIVATE Ltd Company, will be getting a new board member/director, anytime soon? shhhh

What a EXTRAORDINARY 'PRIVILEGE' that would be for, say, a recently 'retired' person. glee

£££'s.

by MRNOODLES 05.12.14 13:37

Please move or remove if need be.

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The Mirror link about Redwood leaving has an extremely telling clip of video (which for me has made a penny drop)

Kirsty Young asks about going staight to the swimming pool when the McCanns first get there. Is the Mirror trying to say something to its readers?

by sallypelt 05.12.14 13:40

Woofer wrote:From May 2013 Vogue

I think she may be the blonde lady on the far right.
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"Another grey day, this time in central London, and the aftershocks of the Met's corruption scandals and Operations Weeting and Elveden are still rippling the walls of the meeting room at Scotland Yard, where I find DCI Nicola Wall. Wall has served 25 years at the Met, eight as a DCI, and heads up the Murder Investigation Team in west London. She's also a trained hostage and crisis negotiator. Married two years ago, her husband does contract work in the Middle East and she sees him sporadically. "We don't have children," she says briskly. "I've got the greatest respect for women who balance both - because that's fantastic - but I don't have to. And I've got a house in Putney, and I have a really nice life."
For Wall, there is no typical murder. No two jobs are the same. "We could end up with the Tia Sharp jobs of this world," she says of the 12-year-old whose body was discovered at her grandmother's house last August. "And then there are jobs that are equally as difficult as those, but that just somehow don't get that media spark." She usually has about six or seven live cases at any one time, and prides herself on her investigative speed; she is only partially joking when she attributes her low media profile to the fact "we solve cases so quickly nobody gets involved…"
A diminutive peroxide blonde, with fine cheekbones and a faint Derbyshire accent, she cuts an unusual figure. "I'm a bit different," she admits. "The jury nearly fell over last time I was in the box!" She's glad that the current crop of TV detectives are not "as mumsy" as their forebears and has a small fondness for Saga Noren "because she's quite feminine, very glamorous, very pretty and very capable, too."
As plainclothes officers, the detectives are united in their determination to look good. Wall especially enjoys playing with her femininity, if only to shake up the stuffier factions of the Met that still exist. "I usually wear a heel, and I always paint my nails," she says with a toss of her well-groomed head. "They usually brighten a day."

"It's a pitiable truth that some stories don't have happy endings. Or resolution. How is it possible to protect oneself from scenes such as these? Surely everyone has to become a hard-nosed cop in the end? Wall answers it best. "I don't think you harden to anything like that. Not at all," she explains. "After every case, you have to self-reflect. I always think about the person that's lost their life, because that's really who we work for, somebody who's been killed. They haven't got a voice any more. It's dreadful and you do get upset. And that doesn't diminish with time." But you keep doing it: "Because you're doing something good. Because it is commitment. Everything you've got, and every skill you've got, and everything you can muster to do is a very good thing to do. And when we get people, justice is done, but we can't bring the person back."
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It's glaring how the words "homicide" and "murder" have now replaced "abducted". Or is it just me?

by Woofer 05.12.14 13:54

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That`s a great pic PM. She must be held in high regard to be snapped alongside P. D. James (who has just died I`m sorry to say). PDJ was no fool - shame she isn`t still alive to help solve this one !

by Guest 05.12.14 13:56

MRNOODLES wrote:Please move or remove if need be.

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The Mirror link about Redwood leaving has an extremely telling clip of video (which for me has made a penny drop)

Kirsty Young asks about going staight to the swimming pool when the McCanns first get there. Is the Mirror trying to say something to its readers?

Last photo? whistling

by jeanmonroe 05.12.14 14:11

Mirror:

"Portuguese police closed down their investigation into her death in 2008 but the Met launched its own operation three years later."
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Cheque books at the 'ready' boys?

"her DEATH"?

Still i suppose they, the Mirror, could always 'cite' in their libel claim 'defence' (against them hindering, hampering, jeopadising, harming the 'search' for a LIVE Madeleine) GM's statement in Lisbon, 24 September 2009.

Gerry McCann: "There's no evidence that Madeleine is dead and there's no evidence to implicate us in her death"

All recorded on video, in case you're wondering, Gerry. winkwink

I can send you a 'copy' should you need it, to 'prove' you did NOT 'say'..........'implicate us in 'her death'"!

Oh, hang on..................you DID 'say' it!

by plebgate 05.12.14 14:15

daffodil wrote: I always think about the person that's lost their life, because that's really who we work for, somebody who's been killed. They haven't got a voice any more. It's dreadful and you do get upset. And that doesn't diminish with time." But you keep doing it: "Because you're doing something good. Because it is commitment. Everything you've got, and every skill you've got, and everything you can muster to do is a very good thing to do. And when we get people, justice is done, but we can't bring the person back."

Let's hope she gets a grip on this case. Her comments above impress me. At last ......?

I agree and she certainly does not come across as a WALLflower daffodil. high5

We can only wait and see what happens next.

by jeanmonroe 05.12.14 14:21

Anyone know if it's the SAME, Lady Judge, hearing the closing 'arguments', next week, who actually heard all the libel claim, 'evidence'?

by plebgate 05.12.14 14:22

Hope so JeanM, would be ludicrous if not IMO.

by By Numbers 05.12.14 14:25

splurgegun wrote:according to @JerryLawton, DCI Nicola Wall, of Met's Homicide and Major Crime Command, will take over Op Grange on December 22

i wonder if a woman is less likely to go along with a whitewash?
we now have female prosecutors in Portugal and the UK, and a female DCI in the UK
i don't think they have women in the Freemasons
are women less likely to turn a blind eye to child abuse?

Not if the story of Hollie Greig is anything to go by, and those involved went onto further 'cleaning up' activities of a different nature.

This woman seems interesting, so far -- it seems too long since the days when you'd hear about people doing their jobs (not just having meetings about meetings to talk about talking about the job) and achieving results, let alone quickly. Also, she talks about the victim as if she really understands what it is they are there for. Let this be a good omen, please.

by Bishop Brennan 05.12.14 14:25

jeanmonroe wrote:

Gerry McCann: "There's no evidence that Madeleine is dead and there's no evidence to implicate us in her death"

Classic Gerry lines. Thinks he's being clever by stating something that is truthful, but yet says nothing about his actual guilt. Typical statement of a narcissist - demonstrating his cleverness by very careful choice of words.

Unlikely to work with the new DCI who appears to be the polar opposite of the utterly useless Redwood who is clearly being booted out to the long grass for having done such a dreadful job. This new woman will have had to deal with a numerous w@nkers throughout her career and won't let the McCann saga end her rise to the top. She won't take 3.5 years to find an old sock!

I think she will move quickly on this and either close the thing down as a total waste of time or close in on the parents and t7. Next moves will be critical.

by aiyoyo 05.12.14 14:25

Dee Coy wrote:
MRNOODLES wrote:Please move or remove if need be.

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The Mirror link about Redwood leaving has an extremely telling clip of video (which for me has made a penny drop)

Kirsty Young asks about going staight to the swimming pool when the McCanns first get there. Is the Mirror trying to say something to its readers?

Last photo?

No date mentioned.

by jeanmonroe 05.12.14 14:41

SERIOUSLY, PEOPLE.

THe Leicestershire Social Services NEED to 'check' on the 'twins'..........right NOW!

TODAY, preferably!

But certainly in the 'next' week.

"Press button and we'd ALL be gone"

"Car crash wipes us ALL out"

If, IF, this new 'boss' is totally 'kosher' there's no telling what 'some' people might do, is there?

by sallypelt 05.12.14 14:54

aiyoyo wrote:
Dee Coy wrote:
MRNOODLES wrote:Please move or remove if need be.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

The Mirror link about Redwood leaving has an extremely telling clip of video (which for me has made a penny drop)

Kirsty Young asks about going staight to the swimming pool when the McCanns first get there. Is the Mirror trying to say something to its readers?

Last photo?

No date mentioned.

I find it odd how the McCann's describe their time by the pool ("last photograph") There's no finer detail about what happened there. All they are talking about, is what you can see in the photograph; for example, sunny day, what Madeleine was wearing. Sitting by the pool. Something isn't adding up.

by Liz Eagles 05.12.14 15:04

sallypelt wrote:
aiyoyo wrote:
Dee Coy wrote:
MRNOODLES wrote:Please move or remove if need be.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

The Mirror link about Redwood leaving has an extremely telling clip of video (which for me has made a penny drop)

Kirsty Young asks about going staight to the swimming pool when the McCanns first get there. Is the Mirror trying to say something to its readers?

Last photo?

No date mentioned.

I find it odd how the McCann's describe their time by the pool ("last photograph") There's no finer detail about what happened there. All they are talking about, is what you can see in the photograph; for example, sunny day, what Madeleine was wearing. Sitting by the pool. Something isn't adding up.

That's the point sallypelt, there's no animation, nothing about Madeleine's day, just about what she was wearing, it was sunny and they were sitting by the pool and took a photograph...the 'last photograph'...and then there was the other tennis ball photograph which was apparently Gerry's favourite according to Kate (although Gerry says his best memory was the 'last photograph') and Kate boasts of her photograph being across the globe when in actual fact neither photograph has any provenance whatsoever and there are those females in the Tapas 7 who claim to have photographed Madeleine with tennis balls.

It doesn't add up as you so rightly say.

by Bishop Brennan 05.12.14 15:34

It makes a lot of sense though if the events behind the photos never happened. If you add details other than the photo, then you have to remember what you invent. And both Gerry and Kate have to remember the same stuff.

Classic prisoners dilemma game theory. Best and safest strategy is to describe the photo. Can never be forgotten, and both can do it in an way that will never conflict.

A simple trick and one of many that hopefully the new boss will spot on day 1 of her takeover.