OFFICERS will fly to Portugal next week to interview the suspects over the disappearance of Maddie in 2007.

It's NOT him, regardless of his past.

Why would he not move away if he'd something to hide?

I imagine most of the residents of PDL are sick of this case now, and the disruption it keeps on bringing, so I'm not surprised Dreadlocks was angry.

Brian Griffin wrote:I imagine most of the residents of PDL are sick of this case now, and the disruption it keeps on bringing, so I'm not surprised Dreadlocks was angry.

They are. ALL of them. H*** is furious, but will cooperate all he can.

I am lost now. Any clues as to who is H***?

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A equipa de Andy Redwood já está na PJ. Nicola Wall ainda não foi vista em Faro. As inquirições já começaram.

Translation:

"The team of Andy Redwood already in PJ . Nicola Wall has not been seen in Faro. The inquiries have already begun"




I don't know if anything has been lost in translation.

Francisco Pagarete, Murat's lawyer, raised a legal issue, Murat might not be able to be questioned again. via [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

How strange for a man who claimed to have no problem speaking to the police again.

Daryl Dixon wrote:Francisco Pagarete, Murat's lawyer, raised a legal issue, Murat might not be able to be questioned again. via [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

How strange for a man who claimed to have no problem speaking to the police again.

Yes, it stinks, doesn't it? So many of them will "go back to do a reconstruction", or will "speak to SY/PJ" as they "have nothing to hide", but when push comes to shove, they run like rats from a sinking ship.

I hope that SY and the PJ see RIGHT through these liars!

Daryl Dixon wrote:Francisco Pagarete, Murat's lawyer, raised a legal issue, Murat might not be able to be questioned again. via [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

How strange for a man who claimed to have no problem speaking to the police again.

Will the T9 claim the same thing, or any of the others, for that matter? After all, they have ALL been questioned before.

sallypelt wrote:

Daryl Dixon wrote:Francisco Pagarete, Murat's lawyer, raised a legal issue, Murat might not be able to be questioned again. via [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

How strange for a man who claimed to have no problem speaking to the police again.

Yes, it stinks, doesn't it? So many of them will "go back to do a reconstruction", or will "speak to SY/PJ" as they "have nothing to hide", but when push comes to shove, they run like rats from a sinking ship.

I hope that SY and the PJ see RIGHT through these liars!

Wonder what he's got to hide then! You would answer regardless of technicalities if you were innocent surely?

margaret wrote:

sallypelt wrote:

Daryl Dixon wrote:Francisco Pagarete, Murat's lawyer, raised a legal issue, Murat might not be able to be questioned again. via [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

How strange for a man who claimed to have no problem speaking to the police again.

Yes, it stinks, doesn't it? So many of them will "go back to do a reconstruction", or will "speak to SY/PJ" as they "have nothing to hide", but when push comes to shove, they run like rats from a sinking ship.

I hope that SY and the PJ see RIGHT through these liars!

Wonder what he's got to hide then! You would answer regardless of technicalities if you were innocent surely?

Kate McC DIDN'T 'answer' basic questions, about her own daughter. did she?

Wonder what she's got to 'hide' then?

Murat's questioning was suspended until legal issue is solved, his wife, Michaela Walczuch is being questioned. via [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Legal issue concerns the fact that Murat had already been questioned as an arguido on exact same issues by PJ via [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

jeanmonroe wrote:

margaret wrote:

sallypelt wrote:

Daryl Dixon wrote:Francisco Pagarete, Murat's lawyer, raised a legal issue, Murat might not be able to be questioned again. via [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

How strange for a man who claimed to have no problem speaking to the police again.

Yes, it stinks, doesn't it? So many of them will "go back to do a reconstruction", or will "speak to SY/PJ" as they "have nothing to hide", but when push comes to shove, they run like rats from a sinking ship.

I hope that SY and the PJ see RIGHT through these liars!

Wonder what he's got to hide then! You would answer regardless of technicalities if you were innocent surely?

Kate McC DIDN'T 'answer' basic questions, about her own daughter. did she?

Wonder what she's got to 'hide' then?

Well exactly JM.

Perhaps Robert murat cant remember all the lies he told first time round.nothing to hide my foot,although I don't think he did any thing to Madeleine,he is in the mix some where along the line  IMO

tiny wrote:Perhaps Robert murat cant remember all the lies he told first time round.nothing to hide my foot,although I don't think he did any thing to Madeleine,he is in the mix some where along the line

In your 'opinion' only, that you forgot to 'add'

jeanmonroe wrote:

tiny wrote:Perhaps Robert murat cant remember all the lies he told first time round.nothing to hide my foot,although I don't think he did any thing to Madeleine,he is in the mix some where along the line

In your 'opinion' only, that you forgot to 'add'

Thats the trouble , you can rehearse all you like , but if you are lying , all your preparation will come crashing down , if you are put under pressure or any of your points fail under scrutiny . the truth always holds up to scrutiny .

Points that stand out for me, higher up the thread, are comments from Stephen Carpenter's evidence where he mentions both that he and his wife left the Tapas Restaurant and walked back to their apartment between 9.15pm and 9.30pm on the night Madeleine went missing. At the time cars were parked near the flats. These cars were not there in the morning.

Also, and particularly interesting to me, his wife remembered the next morning that during the walk back she had heard someone calling 'Madeleine, Madeleine' - she could not remember whether it was in an urgent tone or not. That would make it sometime between 9.15pm and and 9.30pm. Gerry states, if I remember correctly, that at 9.15pm he was at flat 5a and saw Madeleine peacefully sleeping. Hmmm.

We can see from Robert Murat's statements that he told many lies, as did Michelle, when she said that she was at a Jehovah’s Witnesses meeting. However, could these lies have been told to cover up that Robert and Michelle were having a secret affair, and had nothing to do with the disappearance of Madeleine McCann?

Just a thought!

comperedna wrote:Points that stand out for me, higher up the thread, are comments from Stephen Carpenter's evidence where he mentions both that he and his wife left the Tapas Restaurant and walked back to their apartment between 9.15pm and 9.30pm on the night Madeleine went missing. At the time cars were parked near the flats. These cars were not there in the morning.

Also, and particularly interesting to me, his wife remembered the next morning that during the walk back she had heard someone calling 'Madeleine, Madeleine' - she could not remember whether it was in an urgent tone or not. That would make it sometime between 9.15pm and and 9.30pm. Gerry states, if I remember correctly, that at 9.15pm he was at flat 5a and saw Madeleine peacefully sleeping. Hmmm.

That caught my breath too comperedna.

sallypelt wrote:Michaela Walczuch speaking, in December 2007  how she was treated by Metedo 3:



Michaela, whose home was searched by Portuguese police after Madeleine disappeared, complained of being treated like dirt by detectives and claimed Kate and Gerry McCann's former detective agency Metodo 3 had cynically used her.

Protesting her innocence in a December 2007 interview with a UK newspaper, she said: 'I lost my faith not just in justice but in the whole system and everyone that supports it.

'The worst part is people putting me in this, knowing I have nothing to do with it.

'They have no feelings, no heart. They are completely empty.



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Is anyone ever going to tell the truth?

What's happening at the moment is a pile of pre-announced witnesses summoned to Faro, a pre-announced Scotland Yard team with the head honcho arriving with his blue file under his arm and the media pre-warned of a photo op.

Disgusting.

Simply disgusting.

aquila wrote:What's happening at the moment is a pile of pre-announced witnesses summoned to Faro, a pre-announced Scotland Yard team with the head honcho arriving with his blue file under his arm and the media pre-warned of a photo op.

Disgusting.

Simply disgusting.

Fcuk knows what kind of 'compo' bill the Met will have to pay, for 'reputational' damage to these 11 people, if, IF, NONE of the 'people/witnesses', publicly 'displayed', 'named'  at the METROPOLITAN POLICE'S OG  'insistence' are not 'charged' with anything!

"Mud STICKS" and all that!

£10+ MILLION?  

eta: Not forgetting the OTHER '3 'live' Arguidos' ( the schitzo, young lad plus 1, i don't 'recall, taxi/bus driver?) and Sergey M, they 'named' before!

Broadcast on July 1st, 2014 at 13pm
With thanks to Joana Morais for transcript/translation

Report by Marisa Rodrigues | Text by Cláudia Rosenbusch | Image by Jorge Belo | Video Edition by Pedro Madeira

TVI news anchor Paulo Salvador - The Judiciary Police started today questioning the suspects of the Maddie McCann case, the English child who disappeared in Praia da Luz in May 2007, when she was 3 years old. The formal request was done by the British police, who have identified people they wish to see questioned.

TVI news reporter Cláudia Rosenbusch [Voice Over]- Four people with arguido status in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. The request came from Scotland Yard. This morning the PJ of Faro called them in for questioning. Among the suspects, TVI knows, is Sergey Malinka, a Russian citizen who was investigated by the PJ back in 2007. Malinka is a friend of Robert Murat, a former arguido who the English Police leaves out of the investigation. The British detectives also target a former Ocean Club driver, and a resident of Praia da Luz, a man with psychiatric problems who wasn't seen in the days following Madeleine's disappearance. Finally, the fourth suspect is a young man, resident in Praia da Luz.

In common is the fact that all the suspects reside in Praia da Luz and had contact with each other by phone in May 2007, when Maddie disappeared. They are suspects for the British police, but considered irrelevant to the Judiciary Police, who had already questioned them during the investigation in 2007.

"Besides the four arguidos,..............."

Hope the 'Yard/HO' have got deep 'pockets'!

For anyone thinking Nicola Wall is picking up the baton from a naturally retired officer - think again.

This is a media circus - fuelled by the UK police themselves...well that would be the platinum command element.

One little girl aged three just prior to her fourth birthday and not one LEA can find out what happened to her. Not even the US people that Gerry was so eager to consult. No, not one single agency can find out what happened to her. God help Madeleine and God help all of us. We're all being bullshitted.

The UK police were obstructive (don't listen to Jim Gamble who likes to tell everyone it was a scramble to help and there needed to be an uber commanding force..tch) the UK police didn't provide normal stuff such as credit card and bank history info, they didn't freely provide mobile phone records. I'm a UK citizen. I'd hope the UK government would act on behalf of Madeleine and only Madeleine. She's the one that's missing. She's the victim isn't she?

aquila wrote:

sallypelt wrote:Michaela Walczuch speaking, in December 2007  how she was treated by Metedo 3:



Michaela, whose home was searched by Portuguese police after Madeleine disappeared, complained of being treated like dirt by detectives and claimed Kate and Gerry McCann's former detective agency Metodo 3 had cynically used her.

Protesting her innocence in a December 2007 interview with a UK newspaper, she said: 'I lost my faith not just in justice but in the whole system and everyone that supports it.

'The worst part is people putting me in this, knowing I have nothing to do with it.

'They have no feelings, no heart. They are completely empty.



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Is anyone ever going to tell the truth?

Tell you what makes me mad, they're always forgetting WHO the victim really is. I refuse to believe someone like Murat or michaela could be fitted up for maddies disappearance without a shred of evidence, let's remember who all the dog alerts pointed to for a start.

margaret wrote:

aquila wrote:

sallypelt wrote:Michaela Walczuch speaking, in December 2007  how she was treated by Metedo 3:



Michaela, whose home was searched by Portuguese police after Madeleine disappeared, complained of being treated like dirt by detectives and claimed Kate and Gerry McCann's former detective agency Metodo 3 had cynically used her.

Protesting her innocence in a December 2007 interview with a UK newspaper, she said: 'I lost my faith not just in justice but in the whole system and everyone that supports it.

'The worst part is people putting me in this, knowing I have nothing to do with it.

'They have no feelings, no heart. They are completely empty.



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Is anyone ever going to tell the truth?

Tell you what makes me mad, they're always forgetting WHO the victim really is.  I refuse to believe someone like Murat or michaela could be fitted up for maddies disappearance without a shred of evidence, let's remember who all the dog alerts pointed to for a start.

Madeleine...the little girl who's missing...the one who was let down by everyone around her.

Don't tell the likes of Missing People...that charity is only interested in fund raising and passing things on via little social media bites.

Daryl Dixon wrote:Francisco Pagarete, Murat's lawyer, raised a legal issue, Murat might not be able to be questioned again. via [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

How strange for a man who claimed to have no problem speaking to the police again.

Just how hard would it have been for the police legal team to have found this out before now?   How much is this going to cost?  Never mind though it's only taxpayers' money being used.   If there is anything left in the fund I believe it should be made to be put into the SY investigation.

plebgate wrote:

Daryl Dixon wrote:Francisco Pagarete, Murat's lawyer, raised a legal issue, Murat might not be able to be questioned again. via [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

How strange for a man who claimed to have no problem speaking to the police again.

Just how hard would it have been for the police legal team to have found this out before now?   How much is this going to cost?  Never mind though it's only taxpayers' money being used.   If there is anything left in the fund I believe it should be made to be put into the SY investigation.

This is what really gets my goat. It's not as if SY wouldn't know this. It's hardly going to be a surprise. Oh dear, that little flicker (very faint flicker) I had that justice for Madeleine would be secured by SY has just gone out like a damp squib...that's blind optimism for you.

I honestly don't think it's fair to say SY should have known all aspects of the technicalities of Portugal laws.  If anything, it's an oversight of the New Prosecutor surely, as it was her decision to have the 7 to be interviewed as "arguidos" changed to "witnesses" with option to being arguidoed. 

If it is only a matter of  the legal technicality that needs sorting out, it should be no problem for New Prosecutor to get this approved and rectified in useful time.
It could be that (only guessing) the Portuguese law mandates that once being arguidoed, always must be interviewed as "arguido" until close of case.

Will be interesting to see what status he will come under on Friday when he's interviewed. His wife had been interviewed today ahead of him and that means conferring between them can be had and he's pre-warned....hmmm...not good at all.


I don't understand why they did not have the foresight to have the order changed around so that Murat and spouse are scheduled side/side on Friday to avoid the conferring.

margaret wrote:

aquila wrote:

sallypelt wrote:Michaela Walczuch speaking, in December 2007  how she was treated by Metedo 3:



Michaela, whose home was searched by Portuguese police after Madeleine disappeared, complained of being treated like dirt by detectives and claimed Kate and Gerry McCann's former detective agency Metodo 3 had cynically used her.

Protesting her innocence in a December 2007 interview with a UK newspaper, she said: 'I lost my faith not just in justice but in the whole system and everyone that supports it.

'The worst part is people putting me in this, knowing I have nothing to do with it.

'They have no feelings, no heart. They are completely empty.



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Is anyone ever going to tell the truth?

Tell you what makes me mad, they're always forgetting WHO the victim really is.  I refuse to believe someone like Murat or michaela could be fitted up for maddies disappearance without a shred of evidence, let's remember who all the dog alerts pointed to for a start.

Well any fitted up person would have to be charged & tried in Portugal. The Libel Trial is beginning to show that the Portuguese judiciary sees right through all of that. If Murat is named by SY in the UK & not charged, he'll sue. Then who will be called as witnesses at the Old Bailey. 

OG won't name Murat.

aquila wrote:For anyone thinking Nicola Wall is picking up the baton from a naturally retired officer - think again.

This is a media circus - fuelled by the UK police themselves...well that would be the platinum command element.

One little girl aged three just prior to her fourth birthday and not one LEA can find out what happened to her. Not even the US people that Gerry was so eager to consult. No, not one single agency can find out what happened to her. God help Madeleine and God help all of us. We're all being bullshitted.

The UK police were obstructive (don't listen to Jim Gamble who likes to tell everyone it was a scramble to help and there needed to be an uber commanding force..tch) the UK police didn't provide normal stuff such as credit card and bank history info, they didn't freely provide mobile phone records. I'm a UK citizen. I'd hope the UK government would act on behalf of Madeleine and only Madeleine. She's the one that's missing. She's the victim isn't she?

Incredibly, they didn't pass on the Gaspar statement for three months! Has anyone ever queried that in the UK Media. No. Why not?