LIBEL TRIAL DISCUSSION HERE

jeanmonroe wrote:
Heaven forbid WHEN they find out that THEY too could have been 'abducted' 'assaulted' or worse!

PeterMac wrote:

jeanmonroe wrote:
Heaven forbid WHEN they find out that THEY too could have been 'abducted' 'assaulted' or worse!

How do we know they were not ?
Neither of the parents, nor the other anaesthetist present bothered to check either for vital signs, breathing, things stuffed into mouths, needle stick marks, or any other sign that they might have been harmed or "assaulted" in any other way.
Was this simple Gross Professional Negligence  of the standard required to strike both, or all of the Medical register ? ?
NO
Of course not.
They KNEW exactly what had happened.
They KNEW that the twins were in no danger, and that the dose given was appropriate
They KNEW that they had not been 'assaulted' or even touched by anyone.

jeanmonroe wrote:Cristobell wrote:

"I'm afraid I don't find it in the least bit cute that S and A talk about Madeleine all the time."
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And not in the least bit cute that all they know about Madeleine is from their parents!

Heaven forbid WHEN they find out that THEY too could have been 'abducted' 'assaulted' or worse!

But the McS have blocked all that 'stuff' from them, haven't they?

Memo to McCanns: THEY will FIND out that you left them totally at 'risk' and then may well blame you, and only you, for Madeleine's 'disappearance'
YOU WEREN'T THERE TO PROTECT THEM ALL!

Old Mother Hubbard
Went to her Cupboard
To fetch Kate and Gerry a bone,
When she got there
The cupboard was bare
So she made up a story,
Of her own.

So, if the McCanns win the libel trial the £1m will be used to search for their missing daughter, the monies presumably lodged in the now in/famous Fund…
That would be the search which has not existed for past 2 years since the Metropolitan Police began a review of the case?
Well sure doesn’t sound as though the McCanns have any faith in the Yard, when they think they will need MORE MONEY to re-start their private search!
A search, SO PRIVATE that no one knows how or where they search… not even Kate or Gerry McCann it would seem!
(We do know however from private dick, Dave Edgar, that they don't do searches of the lairs surrounding the area from where the child vanished, where dick Dave believes Madeleine can be found - wonder if Andy Redwood does 'lairs?')
 
But then why would they – as Mrs Hubbard their new best friend said in Court –
‘The couple (McCanns) were FORCED to use all their energy defending themselves instead of searching for their daughter.
Now that poses a BIG PROBLEM for McCanns and their Fund, their so called ‘search.’
The public has been told in the past, countless times that EVERY penny raised - donated by the public would be used to search for the missing child.
When promoting the, let us say, faux pas filled book ‘Madeleine’ by Kate McCann the public was assured again that EVERY penny raised would go to a search for their missing daughter.
Not according to Ma Hubbard – Who I am sure does not approve of Kate McCanns book as it is not based on facts. In fact it’s a bit of a fairytale sprinkled with lies, and that is a fact…which must leave Ma Hubbard wondering why Kate was ever “allowed” to write it!
A bit of a loose cannon is Ma, bit of a storyteller – perhaps why she is now Kate’s new best friend, so much in common?
Ma told the Court the McCanns were FORCED to use ALL their energy defending themselves, INSTEAD of searching for their missing child.
Would that mean that not ALL of the money donated, that not EVERY penny the proceeds from the book were USED TO SEARCH FOR MADELEINE?
Quite clearly they were NOT.  
A defence, such as the McCanns launched for themselves, involving more than one law firm, legal representatives both in the UK and Portugal – does not come cheap - and over a period of 6 years -Wow!
Therefore do we take it, legal fees for the McCanns defence were paid for from this Fund, the Fund where they have claimed on numerous occasions – every penny is used to search for Madeleine? 
If not, where does the funding for the McCanns legal defence come from?  How can they afford such expensive lawyers?
Kate and Gerry McCann have put all their energy into defending themselves says Ma Hubbard instead of using it to search for Madeleine.
Lest we forget:-
Energy = Money 
Perhaps they have a secret stash, a little something hidden away for a rainy day, yet to be found?
Who knows?   It would certainly explain a few matters.
Almost forgot, could be that all of these people, the Carter Ruck’s, the Isabel Duarte's and all others who make up the McCann army of lawyers, who they have employed to defend themselves – work for free?
No problem here either – their accounts will establish that one too.
Now let us all think back to when Kate and Gerry McCann FIRST employed their army of solicitors to DEFEND THEMSELVES..?
I for one could not pin point the exact date, that is, without first doing some checking - but I can safely say – It was long before Goncalo Amaral put pen to paper
Begs the question - What did they feel they needed defending, and by such an army?

jeanmonroe wrote:

Cristobell wrote:I will be interested to see the evidence of a child psychologist who recommends parents tell their very young children that their older sibling was stolen by a monster but she is still able to send them birthday cards and presents.

I will be interested to see the evidence of a child psychologist who recommends that parents leave their very young children alone in an unlocked apartment, in a strange country, every night and not checking on those children for (admitted) 35/45 minutes at a time, whilst the parents are totally out of sight.

NOTHING, but NOTHING could possibly go WRONG in those UNATTENDED minutes, could it?

Cristobell wrote:Have I missed something?  Is there no news from the courtroom today?  Did we see Kate and entourage arriving? Martin Brunt hasn't said anything as far as I can see - is that right?  Does anyone know whats happening?

sharonl wrote:HELP WANTED

Do we have a Portuguese member of the forum who could please translate this comment posted on the Diario da Noticas site (www.dn.pt) earlier today:

denunciar este comentário »Três "agências" de "detectives" contractadas pelos McCann, todos embusteiros fraudulentos, é só pesquisar na net por Método3, Kevin Halligen-Oakley International, Alpha Investigations Group(Edgar and Cowley) e ver as tramóias em que estes individuos/firmas estão/estiveram envolvidos. Milhõs de libras do "fundo" queimados não se sabe bem em quê (num relatório de contas do "fundo" sómente 13% do dinheiro foi gasto em buscas efectivas!) e resultados? ZERO, ZERO, ZERO!!!O desgraçado do Halligen defraudou o "fundo" em 500.000 libras e os McCann que fizeram...? NADA, NADINHA DE NADA! Nem o processaram! PORQUÊ??? Medo do que o Halligen pudesse revelar em tribunal sobre o "fundo" e a sua real utilização...?





Halligen gets a few mentions - and I see the word 'fraudulentos' in the first line

Prehensile wrote:

Cristobell wrote:Have I missed something?  Is there no news from the courtroom today?  Did we see Kate and entourage arriving? Martin Brunt hasn't said anything as far as I can see - is that right?  Does anyone know whats happening?

What I do know is the Times on line are are not taking comments for legal reasons, perhaps someone did not like the response on Yahoo news yesterday.

sharonl wrote:HELP WANTED

Do we have a Portuguese member of the forum who could please translate this comment posted on the Diario da Noticas site (www.dn.pt) earlier today:

denunciar este comentário »Três "agências" de "detectives" contractadas pelos McCann, todos embusteiros fraudulentos, é só pesquisar na net por Método3, Kevin Halligen-Oakley International, Alpha Investigations Group(Edgar and Cowley) e ver as tramóias em que estes individuos/firmas estão/estiveram envolvidos. Milhõs de libras do "fundo" queimados não se sabe bem em quê (num relatório de contas do "fundo" sómente 13% do dinheiro foi gasto em buscas efectivas!) e resultados? ZERO, ZERO, ZERO!!!O desgraçado do Halligen defraudou o "fundo" em 500.000 libras e os McCann que fizeram...? NADA, NADINHA DE NADA! Nem o processaram! PORQUÊ??? Medo do que o Halligen pudesse revelar em tribunal sobre o "fundo" e a sua real utilização...?

Halligen gets a few mentions - and I see the word 'fraudulentos' in the first line.

Hicks wrote:

sharonl wrote:HELP WANTED

Do we have a Portuguese member of the forum who could please translate this comment posted on the Diario da Noticas site (www.dn.pt) earlier today:

denunciar este comentário »Três "agências" de "detectives" contractadas pelos McCann, todos embusteiros fraudulentos, é só pesquisar na net por Método3, Kevin Halligen-Oakley International, Alpha Investigations Group(Edgar and Cowley) e ver as tramóias em que estes individuos/firmas estão/estiveram envolvidos. Milhõs de libras do "fundo" queimados não se sabe bem em quê (num relatório de contas do "fundo" sómente 13% do dinheiro foi gasto em buscas efectivas!) e resultados? ZERO, ZERO, ZERO!!!O desgraçado do Halligen defraudou o "fundo" em 500.000 libras e os McCann que fizeram...? NADA, NADINHA DE NADA! Nem o processaram! PORQUÊ??? Medo do que o Halligen pudesse revelar em tribunal sobre o "fundo" e a sua real utilização...?

Halligen gets a few mentions - and I see the word 'fraudulentos' in the first line.

jeanmonroe wrote:Need HELP.
Can someone find the Susan Healy 'breakfast' interview with an American TV studio,
It's on this forum somewhere.
The one where she says she didn't ask if Kate had done anything to Madeleine ("why would I?)
Thankyou.

Ayniia wrote:

Hicks wrote:

sharonl wrote:HELP WANTED

Do we have a Portuguese member of the forum who could please translate this comment posted on the Diario da Noticas site (www.dn.pt) earlier today:

denunciar este comentário »Três "agências" de "detectives" contractadas pelos McCann, todos embusteiros fraudulentos, é só pesquisar na net por Método3, Kevin Halligen-Oakley International, Alpha Investigations Group(Edgar and Cowley) e ver as tramóias em que estes individuos/firmas estão/estiveram envolvidos. Milhõs de libras do "fundo" queimados não se sabe bem em quê (num relatório de contas do "fundo" sómente 13% do dinheiro foi gasto em buscas efectivas!) e resultados? ZERO, ZERO, ZERO!!!O desgraçado do Halligen defraudou o "fundo" em 500.000 libras e os McCann que fizeram...? NADA, NADINHA DE NADA! Nem o processaram! PORQUÊ??? Medo do que o Halligen pudesse revelar em tribunal sobre o "fundo" e a sua real utilização...?

Halligen gets a few mentions - and I see the word 'fraudulentos' in the first line.

Translated with Google, corrected by me:

" Three "agencies" of "detectives" contracted by McCann, all fraudulent liars, just search the net for Método3, Kevin Halligen, Oakley International, Alpha Investigations Group (Edgar and Cowley) and see the machinations that these individuals / firms are / were involved. Millions of pounds from the "fund " burned is not clear on what (a report of accounts of the  "fund " show as few as 13% of the money was spent on actual searches!) And results? ZERO, ZERO, ZERO!! The bastard Halligen defrauded the "fund " in  500,000 pounds and McCanns did ...? NOTHING, NOTHING! They didn't even sued him ! WHY? Fear of the Halligen could prove in court the real use of the "fund " money ...?"

marconi wrote:It is very well possible that Amaral wants to tell something the world still does not know.

AndyB wrote:

marconi wrote:It is very well possible that Amaral wants to tell something the world still does not know.

Yes it is, but even if thats the case, whatever it is he knows, it wasn't enough to prevent the original investigation com being shelves so its unlikely to be anything of major significance IMO

Woofer wrote:Interesting point Textusa made about Duarte`s comments regarding the amount of money GA would have made.  This question was asked by Martin Brunt, which I thought was a weird question to ask considering he`s meant to be an impartial reporter. 

Anyway, why shouldn`t someone earn money from their efforts in writing a book - they`re (Brunt and Duarte) inferring its a crime.  Or is Duarte miffed that GA squirrelled his earnings away? - and why shouldn`t he? when the McCanns were in the process of stripping all his assets and illegally hanging onto to his books.