2nd October - Libel trial reports and discussion *UPDATE* Gerry McCann unable to testify, must wait for Judge decision by 10th
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2nd October - Libel trial reports and discussion *UPDATE* Gerry McCann unable to testify, must wait for Judge decision by 10th
3 people allegedly giving evidence today..........
Susan Healy
Trish Cameron
Gerry McCann
Any news or information please post here.
It can be used for discussion too.
Susan Healy
Trish Cameron
Gerry McCann
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It can be used for discussion too.
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Re: 2nd October - Libel trial reports and discussion *UPDATE* Gerry McCann unable to testify, must wait for Judge decision by 10th
From the Belfast Telegraph: today, 2 October 2013
Gerry McCann wants to give evidence in the case against Goncalo Amaral, who published a book making allegations about Madeleine's disappearance in May 2007.
The McCanns say the former detective's claims in the book The Truth Of The Lie, including suggestions that they hid their daughter's body after she died in an accident and faked an abduction, damaged the hunt for Madeleine and exacerbated her family's anguish.
If successful in the case - brought on behalf of Mr and Mrs McCann and their twins Sean and Amelie - the family stands to gain around £1 million in damages.
Mr McCann was left frustrated after flying to Portugal last week, when proceedings were adjourned because one of Mr Amaral's lawyers could not be present.
The doctor will return to the Palace of Justice in Lisbon today, when the case resumes, in the hope that he will be allowed to give evidence.
He will travel to the Portuguese capital with his sister Trish Cameron and Kate McCann's mother Susan Healy, who are both expected to appear as witnesses in the case.
Mrs McCann attended the court last month on the first day of the case where she told reporters she was in Portugal to "stop the damage" she believes was being caused to the search for her daughter.
The court has heard how she had suicidal thoughts after Mr Amaral claimed she had covered up her daughter's death.
Psychologist Alan Pike said * that after the publication of the former police chief's book in July 2008, Mrs McCann "thought about not being around anymore".
It is not thought that Mrs McCann will travel to Portugal with her husband today.
Madeleine, who was then nearly four, disappeared from her family's holiday apartment in Praia da Luz in the Algarve on May 3 2007 as her parents dined at a nearby restaurant with friends.
Mr Amaral, the detective who initially led the inquiry into Madeleine's disappearance, was removed from the Portugese investigation in October 2007 after criticising the British police.
British detectives launched a fresh investigation into the youngster's disappearance in July this year - two years into a review of the case - and believe she could still be alive.
The Portuguese investigation into Madeleine's disappearance is official closed.
The case, in which Mr Amaral denies defamation, is expected to finish hearing evidence in November.
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* Factual note for the Belfast Telegraph:
From the Lisbon trial:
Question to Alan PIke: "Are you a psychologist?"
Answer from Alan Pike: "No".
Gerry McCann wants to give evidence in the case against Goncalo Amaral, who published a book making allegations about Madeleine's disappearance in May 2007.
The McCanns say the former detective's claims in the book The Truth Of The Lie, including suggestions that they hid their daughter's body after she died in an accident and faked an abduction, damaged the hunt for Madeleine and exacerbated her family's anguish.
If successful in the case - brought on behalf of Mr and Mrs McCann and their twins Sean and Amelie - the family stands to gain around £1 million in damages.
Mr McCann was left frustrated after flying to Portugal last week, when proceedings were adjourned because one of Mr Amaral's lawyers could not be present.
The doctor will return to the Palace of Justice in Lisbon today, when the case resumes, in the hope that he will be allowed to give evidence.
He will travel to the Portuguese capital with his sister Trish Cameron and Kate McCann's mother Susan Healy, who are both expected to appear as witnesses in the case.
Mrs McCann attended the court last month on the first day of the case where she told reporters she was in Portugal to "stop the damage" she believes was being caused to the search for her daughter.
The court has heard how she had suicidal thoughts after Mr Amaral claimed she had covered up her daughter's death.
Psychologist Alan Pike said * that after the publication of the former police chief's book in July 2008, Mrs McCann "thought about not being around anymore".
It is not thought that Mrs McCann will travel to Portugal with her husband today.
Madeleine, who was then nearly four, disappeared from her family's holiday apartment in Praia da Luz in the Algarve on May 3 2007 as her parents dined at a nearby restaurant with friends.
Mr Amaral, the detective who initially led the inquiry into Madeleine's disappearance, was removed from the Portugese investigation in October 2007 after criticising the British police.
British detectives launched a fresh investigation into the youngster's disappearance in July this year - two years into a review of the case - and believe she could still be alive.
The Portuguese investigation into Madeleine's disappearance is official closed.
The case, in which Mr Amaral denies defamation, is expected to finish hearing evidence in November.
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* Factual note for the Belfast Telegraph:
From the Lisbon trial:
Question to Alan PIke: "Are you a psychologist?"
Answer from Alan Pike: "No".
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Dr Martin Roberts: "The evidence is that these are the pjyamas Madeleine wore on holiday in Praia da Luz. They were photographed and the photo handed to a press agency, who released it on 8 May, as the search for Madeleine continued. The McCanns held up these same pyjamas at two press conferences on 5 & 7June 2007. How could Madeleine have been abducted?"
Amelie McCann (aged 2): "Maddie's jammies!".
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Re: 2nd October - Libel trial reports and discussion *UPDATE* Gerry McCann unable to testify, must wait for Judge decision by 10th
http://home.bt.com/news/latestnews/mccann-to-fly-out-for-libel-case-11363838013842
This also states that Alan Pike is a psychologist.
Perish the thought that articles about the McCanns normally carry inaccurate facts!
This also states that Alan Pike is a psychologist.
Perish the thought that articles about the McCanns normally carry inaccurate facts!
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Re: 2nd October - Libel trial reports and discussion *UPDATE* Gerry McCann unable to testify, must wait for Judge decision by 10th
Tony Bennett wrote:From the Belfast Telegraph: today, 2 October 2013
Gerry McCann wants to give evidence in the case against Goncalo Amaral, who published a book making allegations about Madeleine's disappearance in May 2007.
The McCanns say the former detective's claims in the book The Truth Of The Lie, including suggestions that they hid their daughter's body after she died in an accident and faked an abduction, damaged the hunt for Madeleine and exacerbated her family's anguish...
Wearing good quality yellow wristbands, but being photographed by close friends and not the media...a private photograph, Amsterdam, taken on 22 June 2011, as they were promoting Kate's profitable book, 'Madeleine'
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Herald Scotland @heraldscotland 14m
Gerry McCann returns to Portugal to give evidence in libel case against former police chief http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/gerry-mccann-returns-to-portugal-to-give-evidence-in-libel-case-against-former-police.1380704906 …
Gerry McCann returns to Portugal to give evidence in libel case against former police chief http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/gerry-mccann-returns-to-portugal-to-give-evidence-in-libel-case-against-former-police.1380704906 …
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Chief reporter from Press Association is there..............
Ellen Branagh @ellenbranagh_PA 3h
Greetings from Portugal - in Lisbon today for the McCann's libel case against former Portuguese police chief Goncalo Amaral
Ellen Branagh
Greetings from Portugal - in Lisbon today for the McCann's libel case against former Portuguese police chief Goncalo Amaral
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Re: 2nd October - Libel trial reports and discussion *UPDATE* Gerry McCann unable to testify, must wait for Judge decision by 10th
So far, all the newspapers are saying is "he will return". Should be an interesting day.
Did anyone have difficulty getting onto this site, yesterday? I couldn't get in for hours.
Did anyone have difficulty getting onto this site, yesterday? I couldn't get in for hours.
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See here...sallypelt wrote:So far, all the newspapers are saying is "he will return". Should be an interesting day.
Did anyone have difficulty getting onto this site, yesterday? I couldn't get in for hours.
https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t7872-jill-havern-needs-help
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Should be underway now Lisbon same timezone as UK.
Unless you're KM!
Unless you're KM!
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Hi Sallypeltsallypelt wrote:So far, all the newspapers are saying is "he will return". Should be an interesting day.
Did anyone have difficulty getting onto this site, yesterday? I couldn't get in for hours.
Yes, I had a problem getting on the site in the afternoon, although it had been ok in the morning. I had a bit of a panic, and had paranoid thoughts about the site being shut down on the resumption of the trial today..."dark forces at work" etc. I was able to get on again late last night, where it became apparent loads of people had had the same problem, and it was nothing of the sort.
Kind regards....
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Re: 2nd October - Libel trial reports and discussion *UPDATE* Gerry McCann unable to testify, must wait for Judge decision by 10th
The 2 women will probably be first to be called, so that shouldn't take long - hearsay.
Let's hope there's something to report about Iron Man by lunchtime.
Why can't there have been a live stream from the court room. I think it is LUDICROUS there isn't one.
Let's hope there's something to report about Iron Man by lunchtime.
Why can't there have been a live stream from the court room. I think it is LUDICROUS there isn't one.
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Re: 2nd October - Libel trial reports and discussion *UPDATE* Gerry McCann unable to testify, must wait for Judge decision by 10th
Madeleine McCann father attends Lisbon libel trial
By The Associated Press 2:37 a.m.Oct. 2, 2013
LISBON, Portugal — The father of missing British girl Madeleine McCann is at a Lisbon court where he hopes to testify in the family's libel case against a former Portuguese detective.
The McCanns are seeking 1.2 million euros ($1.6 million) in damages from Goncalo Amaral, whose 2008 book alleged they were involved in their daughter's disappearance.
Amaral was part of the police investigation into Madeleine's disappearance from a vacation home in Portugal's Algarve region in 2007, days before her fourth birthday.
Gerry McCann said outside the court he would "listen to what the judge has to say and hope to be heard." He planned to speak last week but the trial was adjourned.
Portuguese police closed the case in 2008 after failing to find out what happened to Madeleine.
The Associated Press
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/oct/02/madeleine-mccann-father-attends-lisbon-libel-trial/
By The Associated Press 2:37 a.m.Oct. 2, 2013
LISBON, Portugal — The father of missing British girl Madeleine McCann is at a Lisbon court where he hopes to testify in the family's libel case against a former Portuguese detective.
The McCanns are seeking 1.2 million euros ($1.6 million) in damages from Goncalo Amaral, whose 2008 book alleged they were involved in their daughter's disappearance.
Amaral was part of the police investigation into Madeleine's disappearance from a vacation home in Portugal's Algarve region in 2007, days before her fourth birthday.
Gerry McCann said outside the court he would "listen to what the judge has to say and hope to be heard." He planned to speak last week but the trial was adjourned.
Portuguese police closed the case in 2008 after failing to find out what happened to Madeleine.
The Associated Press
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/oct/02/madeleine-mccann-father-attends-lisbon-libel-trial/
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Re: 2nd October - Libel trial reports and discussion *UPDATE* Gerry McCann unable to testify, must wait for Judge decision by 10th
The Manchester Evening News is carrying, tonight, a bold photograph of 'The 4 world headline-makers today':
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/uk-news/morning-news-headlines-october-02-6123955
They are:
Gerry McCann
and also:
Barack Obama
David Cameron, and
Katy Perry.
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/uk-news/morning-news-headlines-october-02-6123955
They are:
Gerry McCann
and also:
Barack Obama
David Cameron, and
Katy Perry.
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Dr Martin Roberts: "The evidence is that these are the pjyamas Madeleine wore on holiday in Praia da Luz. They were photographed and the photo handed to a press agency, who released it on 8 May, as the search for Madeleine continued. The McCanns held up these same pyjamas at two press conferences on 5 & 7June 2007. How could Madeleine have been abducted?"
Amelie McCann (aged 2): "Maddie's jammies!".
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Madeleine: Gerry McCann 'Hopes To Be Heard' http://news.sky.com/story/1149207/madeleine-gerry-mccann-hopes-to-be-heard …
Madeleine: Gerry McCann 'Hopes To Be Heard' http://news.sky.com/story/1149207/madeleine-gerry-mccann-hopes-to-be-heard …
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Gerry McCann has arrived in the Palace of Justice in Lisbon to give evidence against a former police chief accused of making allegations about the disappearance of his daughter.
The McCanns say former detective Goncolo Amaral is hindering the search for Madeleine after publishing a book which claimed they hid their daughter's body after faking her abduction.
More on link..........http://news.sky.com/story/1149207/madeleine-gerry-mccann-hopes-to-be-heard....
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Tony Bennett wrote:The Manchester Evening News is carrying, tonight, a bold photograph of 'The 4 world headline-makers today':
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/uk-news/morning-news-headlines-october-02-6123955
They are:
Gerry McCann
and also:
Barack Obama
David Cameron, and
Katy Perry.
I bet Gerry likes being sandwiched between Cameron and Obama!
Hopefully, though, like Kate Perry's song there'll be fireworks in court today.
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To quote one of Madeleine's favourite characters, Doctor Who, "it's squeaky bum time!"candyfloss wrote:
Gerry McCann has arrived in the Palace of Justice in Lisbon to give evidence against a former police chief accused of making allegations about the disappearance of his daughter.
The McCanns say former detective Goncolo Amaral is hindering the search for Madeleine after publishing a book which claimed they hid their daughter's body after faking her abduction.
More on link..........http://news.sky.com/story/1149207/madeleine-gerry-mccann-hopes-to-be-heard....
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no reports from the court room?
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Really good of Sky News to not even bother to spell Goncalo correctly.
http://news.sky.com/story/1149207/madeleine-gerry-mccann-hopes-to-be-heard
http://news.sky.com/story/1149207/madeleine-gerry-mccann-hopes-to-be-heard
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Just a reminder this thread is for discussion and reports on todays proceedings only, anything else re trial please post on Libel Trial Discussion thread.
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So....we wait. Will we see Gerry in the witness box? Suspense is killing me. Good luck Team Amaral.
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I am from South Africa what is the time difference ?
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It's 13.32 in the U K and Lisbon now - what time is it where you are Sweetex?
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At around what time does Jerry Lawton usually get his press release re the day's proceedings?
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Seems gerry#mccann was unable to testify according to what I'd written in this post reg. laws http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2013/09/why-was-gerry-mccann-in-portugal.html …
Seems gerry
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