mccannfest on daybreak tomorrow.

ShuBob wrote:I'm with you Loopzdaloop

Châtelaine wrote:

tigger wrote:

Lance De Boils wrote:Oh, please help me out here... who the heck is Kevin? I keep coming across his name in various threads, but I've obviously missed something!

see PM

and find out that "Kevin" is dwelling in the attics of CR, searching the 'net for inappropriate comments on the "situation Madeleine finds herself in" ...
Sorry. I really should have used a

Pershing36 wrote:I think the biggest fear for TM is lack of publicity and not being able to remain in the limelight. They crave attention, attention which they are losing rapidly.

Most of the newspaper articles and air time on TV are given purely because of them claiming they are victims by demonizing anyone who doubts them. When you think about it they rely on doubters for a good proportion of the publicity. Think how much attention was given to the death threats in comparison to the Marathon run. I am wondering if the DR run would even have made the news without the death threat headline a few days before.

In the long term things are not looking good for them and the publicity they crave. Regardless of how the Portuguese trial and the SY whitewash go it will only grab them one or two headlines and maybe the odd TV interview.

What dramatics will they pull out of the hat next? Their doesn't at the moment seem to be much or many left to complain about.

In regards to the fund, even if you sincerely believe their version of events even the hardiest supporter will see that if (assuming it achieves nothing) SY could not solve it paying private detectives is pointless.

Whatever happens I believe the public will lay it to rest.

Madeleine McCann's parents have refused to give up hope that they might find their daughter as they prepare to mark the sixth anniversary of her disappearance.

But Kate and Gerry McCann said they have found a "new normality" over the past few years as they come to terms with the absence of their oldest child.

Madeleine was nearly four when she disappeared from her family's holiday apartment in Praia da Luz in Portugal's Algarve on May 3, 2007 as her parents dined at a tapas restaurant with friends nearby. Friday will mark the six-year anniversary of her disappearance.

Mr and Mrs McCann, from Rothley, Leicestershire, said they continue to search for their daughter and remain as hopeful as ever - if not more so. Though another year has passed since Madeleine went missing, they are confident they might be in a better position as the Metropolitan Police continue to review the case.

"In many ways things haven't changed and you could argue that, with the Met review two years in, we are actually in a better place because so much more information has been collated and lots of pieces of the jigsaw have been filled," Mr McCann, 44, told the Press Association. "It's just about keeping looking, find out what's happened to Madeleine and hopefully finding those responsible."

He said he was confident in work being carried out by the Met, adding: "This is what we campaigned for and Kate will tell you that the Met are absolutely determined to see the job through. They feel like they are getting their teeth into the job."

Mrs McCann, 45, added: "When people come in they are always really enthusiastic to help and as time goes by, if you don't yield results people's motivation can wane. I think the opposite has happened with the Met. They seem to be more determined than ever."

Gerry implied kate especially was given inside info about the review, and will tell us all about it. And, did kate expand on that - updating people on the progress? NOPE! Just generalisation that "MET seem to be more determined than ever" . It's one of those wtf moments. I often wonder why their paid pink creature never tell them to stfu instead of putting their foot in it. Their spun is so transparent.

The couple, who will mark the anniversary with a service in their village, said although they struggle with various occasions, including Madeleine's birthday, they are coping with her absence.

"Probably the last couple of years it's been a new normality," said Mr McCann. "We have adapted to our situation. There isn't so much intrusion and we're not in the public eye very much so those pressures have disappeared. The thing for Kate and I was always about having a proper search and turning over every stone and we feel like that is being done."

But he said that did not mean they did not still have hope: "Of course we miss Madeleine terribly but we still hope that we will find her. [b]We are still in the same situation and for us we have got to keep going until we find Madeleine and those responsible."[b]
Gerry's last comment is bit bizzare considering they suspended their search.

loopzdaloop wrote:

tigger wrote:

Pershing36 wrote:I think we will have to accept that they are confident the SY farce is going exactly how they wont it to.

I have no doubt a few names we have not heard before maybe banded around at the end but nothing that is going to change anything. None of MW holiday mob will ever be interviewed and the case will remain as an abductor unknown.

My feeling is the review will be closed at the end of the summer or late autumn. Then they can have a massive amount of press coverage and re-ignite their search for Maddy. A few extra suspects will be thrown in to look like something was achieved.

Ultimately I believe SY will pick holes in the original investigation and blame that for them not achieving the breakthrough many expected.

My biggest worry is like most investigations there are mistakes, looking back on something there is something you can always do better. I have this horrible feeling they will use the SY review to exploit the trial in Portugal if they get it in time.

It almost feels to me like a conspiracy when the ultimate goal of the SY review may be for libel.

The ultimate goal of SY - or rather the real remit imo - is to put a lid on it whilst having the McCanns smell of roses.

I've never thought they would end up in prison or ever be taken to court. My feeling is (and that of some others such as Textusa) that a useful dead paedo will be decided on as the likely 'abductor'. Hewlett has been groomed for this role and his son has been most helpful in propping this ridiculous idea up.
It's been quiet on the Hewlett front lately but there was also a trace of DNA on one of the bedspreads that (the FSS having been discredited) can just be anyone's - preferably that of a dead paedo.

I disagree with all this sort of comment RE: Scotland Yard.
The fact is that there has been no leaking of information (if there was the McCanns would have spun it).
It is also a fact that Scotland Yard are currently on a high following the result on the Stephen Lawrence Case.
We also know with the Mccann case that the British Police helped the portugese to develop their evidence against the Mccann's.
Police are trained similarly the world over. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see inconsistencies in lots of areas within this case.
The Mccann's may have been close to the new money, elite 'professionals' of new labour, yet to the tories the Mccann's are just plebs like everyone else. They hold them in disregard, ones a Glaswegian the other a Liverpudlian. They never went to Eton, Oxbridge et al. or hung around in the circles that the tories did.

Also, since the Jimmy Saville escapade the police are now no longer scared to arrest people that are high profile.
Who on earth would have thought that they would have been brave enough to arrest Max Clifford? (even though he's common)
They also arrested one of our national icons (even though he's ozzie) Rolf Harris (the Commoners favorite as well as the queen!)
They now no longer need to be worried about arresting a pair of commoners who have tried to stifle the press as they have since burnt all their bridges.The way Gerry had been speaking about and to David Cameron are the Leveson was quite surprising!

One last thing RE: keeping an open mind. The truth was outed RE: Hillsborough recently too!!

Châtelaine wrote:Could I be mistaken in thinking that suing and trying to ruin a [Portuguese] detective may not sit well with colleagues on the Met ... ?

Châtelaine wrote:There are other people in charge of HO now, Pennylane.

pennylane wrote:So why did The Home Office effectively stall the Portuguese investigation at its most critical time, by an outright refusal to comply with basic background information on the McCanns; and why did the Birmingham FSS do a dramatic U-turn after claiming there was a DNA match to Madeleine, and then suddenly state that 'there wasn't,' and then claim they didn't have one hair with its root attached.... oh and 'oops' ALL the samples were destroyed during testing! Does anyone remember the endless delays by the Home Office to the written requests for important information on the McCanns, including basic medical information on Maddie and Kate, etc... those delays went on for months, only to end in a flat out refusal.
Now we see The Home Office are funding the Review, and no doubt setting the parameters.

Pershing36 wrote:

pennylane wrote:So why did The Home Office effectively stall the Portuguese investigation at its most critical time, by an outright refusal to comply with basic background information on the McCanns; and why did the Birmingham FSS do a dramatic U-turn after claiming there was a DNA match to Madeleine, and then suddenly state that 'there wasn't,' and then claim they didn't have one hair with its root attached.... oh and 'oops' ALL the samples were destroyed during testing! Does anyone remember the endless delays by the Home Office to the written requests for important information on the McCanns, including basic medical information on Maddie and Kate, etc... those delays went on for months, only to end in a flat out refusal.
Now we see The Home Office are funding the Review, and no doubt setting the parameters.

As well as police forces in the UK probably contacting witnesses. The investigation handbook handed over, Gasper statements which could have been crucial not coming to light.

Then we could get into CATS file that appears to be emptied or never contained anything. Why didn't the UK police support the findings of the dogs which they rely on heavily in other investigations and convictions. Turning a blind eye to meetings of witnesses, especially the one with RM.

I strongly believe if this was anything other than a paper shuffling exercise witnesses would be being interviewed, if nothing else but to check translations and accuracy of statements. But nothing, I know somebody said it earlier I can't remember who but I am starting to agree with them. The review could well not have anyone working on it, it could have ended ages ago but it is just being kept officially open to make it look like they are actually trying to solve it.

Who knows but there seems to be very little action going on other than behind the walls of SY.

Another thing that has always got me. Why did the Portuguese back down and bend over so easily when Brown and Co started throwing their weight around?

russiandoll wrote:quote " strongly believe if this was anything other than a paper shuffling
exercise witnesses would be being interviewed, if nothing else but to
check translations and accuracy of statements. But nothing,"


How do any of us know who has or has not been interviewed?

Pershing36 wrote:[...]

I am pretty sure if the McCann's or any of the Tapas mob had been pulled in front of the plod they would be screaming blue murder.
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Châtelaine wrote:I know a lot about catching snakes. The other day a nearly 2 meter long one ... Ah, French countryside

Nina wrote:

Châtelaine wrote:I know a lot about catching snakes. The other day a nearly 2 meter long one ... Ah, French countryside

We had one under the car bonnet and worse still one curled up under the record player of the music stack. Only harmless one in the house but the one under the bonnet was a big one. Ah Spanish countryside