***LATEST NEWS AND UPDATES FROM THE TRIAL HERE*** See page 40 for news of the date and time of the judgment

jd wrote:

Smokeandmirrors wrote:http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/hello-guys-you-have-been-mentioned-in-trial.988619/

Ian West aka Muratfan has this to say on Big Footy forum.
Response by their Admin is funny.

His attempts to scare Tony's supporters is failing miserably.

Ian West.....Has to hide as a female on its profile, not man enough...Whatever stone it lives under it is a seriously mentally retarded T**T in bad need of the (real) men in white coats

muratfan

Draftee
Female, 40

Profile Page
Member Since: Dec 20, 2012 Posts: 73 Likes Received: 2 Trophy Points: 4

monkey mind wrote:

PeterMac wrote:He used the word 'subterfuge" but in fact it falls straight into the definition of Obtaining Property by Deception. s 15 Theft Act.
That being the case, and depending where the book now is, Carter- Ruck, or possibly a specific and traceable person within that company may have committed the offence of Handling Stolen goods. S. 22.

Correct. You'd think such highely waged lawyers would be aware of that...

Humanist wrote:I like the comment about C-R actually handling stolen goods.
I think there are people around London right now, knowing a lot more than we do.
And whilst many might be chewing nervously on a pencil and trying to still their wilting hearts......i think there are many, many intelligent writers out there who are so sick of the lies and behaviour of the elite and gentry ...
This is swinging the class battle. No pun intended.
Every blue collar worker in the Uk would be behind Tony right now.
Every white collar worker as well.

I think pretty well everyone, except for those involved in the cover up (and those are many) but we are more and more sensing that the tide
has turned.
Slowly bit by bit without being obvious, justice is winging her way in.
And as you would not eat all the food in a restuarant in one sitting.
This unfoldment must take time. We want it in the papers for a long time.
We don't want to see a guilty Kate and Gerry alone in the van.
We want to see a Clarence Mitchell in court.
FSS laboratories in court.
Every single paper that slandered Amaral in court.
If court is the only way to do these things then Tony is giving US ALL our day in court.
So much bigger than Madeleine alone.

So again Tony sending you strength and justice and most profound gratitude.

C.Edwards wrote:

monkey mind wrote:
I Just to add, it seems from Tony's account that even if the Judge finds against him tomorrow he is opening the doors to a future hearing and libel trial when the McCanns and their team of lawyers will not be able to prevent this being aired in court. And that, they definitely do not want.

Tony is planning to make (or may already have made?) an application to lift the stay on the libel proceedings. He wanted to vary three of the undertakings in the initial order he agreed to but Justice Tugendhat ruled that it wasn't possible to vary the undertakings whilst the stay remained in place as it would be dealing with the essence of what the stayed libel trial was all about whilst the stay would technically remain in place, therefore rendering the stay somewhat useless. Therefore Tony was told he had to apply to lift the stay on the libel trial.

To do so, he has to prove there is reasonable evidence to make it viable for the court to lift the stay (despite the obvious opposition from the McCann legal team to such a move - they are quoted as saying that Tony's stated reasons for varying the order/lifting the stay are not worthy of such an action) and it is at this hearing that the evidence ruled as being irrelevant today becomes highly relevant. CR will almost certainly attempt to have the application to lift the stay struck out as having no merit but it sounds like Justice Tugendhat is leaning towards at least having the hearing and I think it unlikely CR will succeed in their attempt to stifle the application.

IF Tony wins that hearing then the stay on the libel trial will be lifted and it's full speed ahead. Which in practical terms means it will be probably be approximately a year at least before such a libel trial can be set in motion... the wheels of justice grind slowly.

T4two wrote:The McCanns' strategy has always been to avoid actually appearing in court in person; perhaps because that would mean being cross examined under oath and one notes from following this case for the past five years or more, that they would have huge difficulties with that. The only time that McCanns have been cross examined under oath was at the Leveson inquiry and although they had the goodwill of the court behind them and the barrister cross examining was far from hostile so that they were not subjected to a proper cross examination in the true sense of the word, they struggled. As far as I understand it, it has always been Dr. Amaral's intention to get them into a courtroom to testify; something they have to date always managed to avoid. It's therefore good to see Mr. Bennett moving in this direction as well. I have a feeling that those newspapers who settled out of court when faced with the McCann legal attack made a big mistake which has allowed this whole sordid business to carry on for much longer than it would otherwise have done.

Woofer wrote:"The circumstances under which I agreed to give the undertakings - on 2 October 2009 following legal advice from Kirwans - were also deemed irrelevant. The fact that the only alternative I was faced with was to face a full-blown libel trial, up against the legal firepower of Carter-Ruck and with no Legal Aid for defamation cases, was also ruled irrelevant."


If Justice Tugendhat heard that you had no alternative, I think it was unfair of him to rule as irrelevant.

sombrero wrote:The case is over!!! Judgement in about one weeks time.

My friend Wendy was able to give some little assistance to TB thiss morning.

Her feeling was that it went well today. TB was much better today than yesterday.

scotuk wrote:Thanks to Joana Morais who published this on Facebook

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Krn-LLFpWxM

sombrero wrote:Difficult to get through to my friend and frankly I dont know who you are talking about but the case is over.

Smokeandmirrors wrote:

sombrero wrote:Difficult to get through to my friend and frankly I dont know who you are talking about but the case is over.

Ian West is aka Muratfan who is a stalker of Tony's. He has been tweeting stuff as if it is fact but is inconsistent with what people who were actually there have reported. Time to flush out the vermin, methinks.....

Smokeandmirrors wrote:http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/hello-guys-you-have-been-mentioned-in-trial.988619/

Ian West aka Muratfan has this to say on Big Footy forum.
Response by their Admin is funny.

His attempts to scare Tony's supporters is failing miserably.

Bob Southgate wrote:

Smokeandmirrors wrote:http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/hello-guys-you-have-been-mentioned-in-trial.988619/

Ian West aka Muratfan has this to say on Big Footy forum.
Response by their Admin is funny.

His attempts to scare Tony's supporters is failing miserably.

Admins reply is pure class!!

Nina wrote:I have just read on Missing Madeleine that the case is over and judgement will be given in about a weeks time. This was from a poster who has a friend who is there with the support group. I have not heard anything from my own friends who are there so don't know if it is 100% true. We will wait for confirmation.