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Post by sar on 07.06.14 11:12

@Pershing36 wrote:
@stillsloppingout wrote:Sorry to be pessimistic ..again having watched the goings on for the past few days . i still feel it is the final act of a show .

    If you watch a cheap production at the theatre . you are left less than impressed at the end . SY with there helicopters , Cops in suits and briefcases, riding into town , being snapped bang on cue . then the blitz of officers scouring the scrubland ,finding an innocuous kiddies den, treating it like they had just unearthed Ramesses II .

Its all a grand finale ' Look we have thrown the lot at it and we conclude that ....... "  then the people go home ,the show may have been crap, but the production value was good so fair enough .

The PJ may state ALL there findings , [ which is SY main aim in the first place, to get the info they need to square this thing up ] it will be ignored or rubbished , and the show will be over . Ditto if GA publishes .

 There is NO body , it's long gone . This will all be over when the weather gets a bit shi**y again , probably when the footie is back on the TV . 

There is nothing coming out of Portugal that makes me think otherwise . 

Sex n Drugs N rock N roll  a potent mix .

If this is true it is possible the PJ called SY's bluff.

SY put in a request for a dig, they did it at a time when they knew it would cause a local uproar with it being the holiday season.  I wouldn't mind betting that SY expected the request to be denied and then they could claim they couldn't continue through lack of co-operation.

Being agreed SY have had to go along with the show making it look like they acted on some kind of intelligence.  The whole thing looks like a shambles in front of the whole press so they have had to extend it.  At very least in the end they can say, well we did all we could but lost 2 days through their public holidays.
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Think that is possible, I could be wrong but usually finger tip / forensic style searches are carried out on a sector by sector basis, this looks like they are acting on "specific intelligence" (an almost meaningless expression in this case) eg they have pin pointed areas, cordoned them off then searched only those areas in detail.  Sure the dogs are there but if they wanted to corroborate anything they found then other material from elsewhere in the site could be invaluable.  Doesn't look like that type of search, unless "Someone" (guess who??) has given incredibly accurate info on the whereabouts of certain item/s in which case I'd doubt that sort of search would be carried out under the full glare of the media.

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Post by sar on 07.06.14 11:16

Ok,....just seen bbc news from PdL, they are now doing sweep searches, line searches of an area on "the snail" interesting...mentioning "Smithman" again being seen at a "junction in the road"

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Post by jeanmonroe on 07.06.14 11:21

Yeah just seen.
maddie cops doing a probing exercise. Holes that were 'dug' being filled in.
McCanns pleased with progress being 'made'!
Whatever that means!
No reason given WHY this 'new' area of 'search'
Smith's mentioned.
PLUS the THREE 'burglators'

Looks like 'back fitting', imo.

Reported by Tom Burridge.

Who is on record as saying : "This investigation is ANYTHING but 'normal' and it has NEVER been 'normal' from the very day Madeleine McCann disappeared"

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Post by frost on 07.06.14 11:25

@russiandoll wrote:
The sites indicate that the authorities believe that she was snatched by an opportunist sex offender who took her took nearby wasteland to abuse and potentially kill and discard.




?????????????????

How do they explain then the evidence of cadaver odour in the apartment ?

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Post by sofieellis on 07.06.14 11:32

Criminologist Professor David Wilson, sadly told the Sunday World that in all likelihood, that Maddie is dead and was murdered with in 48 hours.
“Statistically, victims of abductions are killed with in 48 hours and the younger they are the more likely they are to be killed earlier. It is sad but that is what the figures say”, he said.




Doesn't this statistic completely negate what Gerry is always trying to tell us? 




Dad Gerry said this week that statistics showed the younger a child is when abducted, the more likely they are to be found.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-kate-gerrys-great-2467765#ixzz33wqpzwBO 
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Post by jeanmonroe on 07.06.14 11:39

Could ANYONE on this forum please give me a definitive explanation for DCI Redwood stating the following:

DCI Andy Redwood:

".................and it is our belief as experienced investigators, (emphasised) ON THE EVIDENCE that erm, that y'know. that, that, is a criminal act that has been y'know undertaken by, by a stranger.........."
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What 'EVIDENCE' does he have or would make (30?) experienced investigators BELIEVE (to the total exclusion of ALL OTHER 'explanations' as to why Madeleine is not here) that Madeleine was 'involved' in a criminal act undertaken by a stranger?

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Post by BlueBag on 07.06.14 11:46

Peter Cook did a sketch once in which he was a Police Inspector.. "it is our belief that this robbery was carried out by thieves".

"good evening".

Maybe AR is a fan.

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Post by sar on 07.06.14 11:54

Poe wrote:Isn't it strange how the mock up picture of how she would look today looks more like a real girl than the real Madeleine in the iconic photo?

I've just noticed that on the photo she doesn't have that little pink lump.

I googled it: the inner canthus is missing



Poe, is that symptomatic of something else?  Not an expert but foetal alcohol syndrome or some other condition?

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Post by BlueBag on 07.06.14 11:59



Could be a send up of the Madeleine case.

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Post by jeanmonroe on 07.06.14 11:59

IF, as the McCanns themselves, 'believe' that Madeleine 'could be' living with a family that wanted a child, WHY are the, almost entire, OG 'team' extensively searching scrubland at the 'snail'?

Unless 'the family' the McCanns possibly think Madeleine 'could be with' LIVE on the 'snail' there's no rhyme nor reason as to why OG are 'searching' there, is there?

All a little bit abnorma/surreal for a 'search' for a LIVE Madeleine, to be being conducted on the 'snail' methinks.

Is it possible that the OG 'team' HAVE to 'find something' that will enable them to 'justify' this whole 2 weeks, taxpayer funded, 'search'?

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Post by JohnyT on 07.06.14 12:01

@maebee wrote:Looking back on old vids this evening I just noticed something I hadn't noticed before. In this vid GM is all smiles up to 12.26 when he thinks the interview is over. Another interviewer (Central Television) then asks him to say something about the support in Rothley. This seemed to hit a raw nerve with him. So much so, that the interviewer had to apologise for asking the question. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OTGH4CcBX4&feature=youtu.be
Wow....if looks could kill...why would you have to recompose yourself like that if you weren't acting. All IMHO of course.
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Post by Guest on 07.06.14 12:04

@sar wrote:
Poe, is that symptomatic of something else?  Not an expert but foetal alcohol syndrome or some other condition?

I've just been googling (I don't recommend it there are some nasty, nasty eye pictures) and I don't know. From what I can tell, foetal alcohol syndrome like down syndrome causes a fold of skin over the corner over the eye but the inner canthus is still there.

I think it's simply bad photoshopping.

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Post by sofieellis on 07.06.14 12:05

I think it's actually the caruncula that's missing. I just looked at pics of my kids when they were very young ad their's are missing too. They are present now they are older though. I don't think it's unusual in babies and young children.

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twitter- just now. Saturday D+1

Post by PeterMac on 07.06.14 12:08

Tony Stewart ‏@TellyTone  1h
A team if Brit officers begin another search in scrubland near the large drain #praiadaluz #mccann pic.twitter.com/xXfuSTQu7X

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Post by jeanmonroe on 07.06.14 12:12

PMac:

WHAT are they actually extensively 'searching' for, in your opinion?

Obviously NOT a 'live' Madeleine.

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Post by TheTruthWillOut on 07.06.14 12:14

Poe wrote:
@sar wrote:
Poe, is that symptomatic of something else?  Not an expert but foetal alcohol syndrome or some other condition?

I've just been googling (I don't recommend it there are some nasty, nasty eye pictures) and I don't know. From what I can tell, foetal alcohol syndrome like down syndrome causes a fold of skin over the corner over the eye but the inner canthus is still there.

I think it's simply bad photoshopping.

I would er on the side of photoshopping too.

But looking at the symptoms of this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waardenburg_syndrome thinking

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Post by russiandoll on 07.06.14 12:24

Tom Parmenter Sky news... police using ground radar today and Portuguese police confirm that searches due to take place between PdL and Lagos

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Post by jeanmonroe on 07.06.14 12:26

Now being reported 'search' will be focussed on 'similar' land (as the snail)  between PDL and the nearby town of Lagos  which is 5-7 miles away along the coast.

Would make more 'sense' as lots of posters here have said.

Out of PDL.

Rather blows the Smithman 'intell', dosen't it?

The Mccanns, and extended family, would NOT have stayed in PDL, with the chance of a 'discovery' of 'something' in PDL would they?

imo, they all 'knew' NOTHING would, by chance, be 'discovered' in PDL while they were ALL 'in residence'

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Post by endgame on 07.06.14 12:38

@jeanmonroe wrote:PMac:

WHAT are they actually extensively 'searching' for, in your opinion?

Obviously NOT a 'live' Madeleine.

They appear to be searching for a reason to be there.

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Post by Guest on 07.06.14 12:43

@russiandoll wrote:Tom Parmenter Sky news... police using ground radar today and Portuguese police confirm that searches due to take place between PdL and Lagos

This can't be a show - a show would have ended on the snail with the police throwing their hands up and saying, "Well, we tried."

The lack of any real information about what's been discovered, moving the search and the extension to the digging deadline, gives me hope that the police have found something.


@ TheTruthWillOut, I've read your post about Waardenburg Syndrome & I will look but I need time for my stomach to settle after seeing some of the eye pictures on google (yes - I'm a wimp  big grin  )

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Post by jeanmonroe on 07.06.14 12:45

Anyone know the 'distances' between PDL, Lagos, Burgau and Sagres?

Sagres, where a lot of the McCann 'family' went on a 'family' outing?

June 8th/9th 2007.

5 weeks after Madeleine disappeared was the weekend commencing Friday June 8, 2007. When we look closely at that weekend, there are several interesting things to note:

The McCann family flew in to the Algarve or were already there for that weekend. Susan and Brian Healy – Kate’s parents – were there. Trish and Sandy Cameron – Gerry’s sister and his brother in-law were there. Philomena flew in to Lisbon and Kate’s long time friend Anne-Marie Wright and her husband Michael had flown in to Faro.

Michael told the police that he and his wife flew in with the specific job of looking after Sean and Amelie while Kate and Gerry went to Morocco on Sunday June 10. Given the large number of close family relatives in town, Michael’s statement to the police is' flawed'.

On Saturday June 9, 2007, the entire family is supposed to have spent a day at the southwestern tip of Portugal – a town called Sagres.

Was Madeleine disposed of during the weekend of June 8?

Did John McCann inadvertently let it slip that this was the weekend when Madeleine was finally laid to rest or disposed of?

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Post by Watching The Detectives on 07.06.14 12:48

Does the new area to be searched tie in with the recent helicopter activity?

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Post by Guest on 07.06.14 12:53

yeah watching the detectives i was just about to post the same! Minimal reporting yesterday and a lot of helicopter activity...I think they have something.

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