*NEW!* Judge Tugendhat will hear McCanns' CONTEMPT application 10.30am Wednesday 8 February

jd wrote: .... After 5 years with police investigations, the mccanns own Private investigation company investigations...there is not ONE single piece of evidence of an abduction. In fact quite the contrary, the mccanns have been proven to lie, about the shutters, front door, patio door, the mccann themselves have admitted to lying. There is no DNA of an abductor in apartment 5A, there is no DNA of Madeleine McCann in apartment 5A!! Not even on a toothbrush! The fact is the only proof is that there was a death in apartment 5A, anyone who ignores the dogs who are specially trained and have a 100% record in over 200 case do so at their peril and sheer ignorance

The Madeleine McCann case is officially logged at the UK FO as a 'missing persons' case not an abduction case

listener wrote:

jd wrote: .... After 5 years with police investigations, the mccanns own Private investigation company investigations...there is not ONE single piece of evidence of an abduction. In fact quite the contrary, the mccanns have been proven to lie, about the shutters, front door, patio door, the mccann themselves have admitted to lying. There is no DNA of an abductor in apartment 5A, there is no DNA of Madeleine McCann in apartment 5A!! Not even on a toothbrush! The fact is the only proof is that there was a death in apartment 5A, anyone who ignores the dogs who are specially trained and have a 100% record in over 200 case do so at their peril and sheer ignorance

The Madeleine McCann case is officially logged at the UK FO as a 'missing persons' case not an abduction case

I hope that your excellent summary of the facts (as we know them) are somehow conveyed to the judge soon, so he might take time to fully educate himself about the 'perceived' abduction before he makes his conclusion! I would just mail him the above summary!

jd wrote:

listener wrote:

jd wrote: .... After 5 years with police investigations, the mccanns own Private investigation company investigations...there is not ONE single piece of evidence of an abduction. In fact quite the contrary, the mccanns have been proven to lie, about the shutters, front door, patio door, the mccann themselves have admitted to lying. There is no DNA of an abductor in apartment 5A, there is no DNA of Madeleine McCann in apartment 5A!! Not even on a toothbrush! The fact is the only proof is that there was a death in apartment 5A, anyone who ignores the dogs who are specially trained and have a 100% record in over 200 case do so at their peril and sheer ignorance

The Madeleine McCann case is officially logged at the UK FO as a 'missing persons' case not an abduction case

I hope that your excellent summary of the facts (as we know them) are somehow conveyed to the judge soon, so he might take time to fully educate himself about the 'perceived' abduction before he makes his conclusion! I would just mail him the above summary!

Thank you Listener...the judge only has to read the facts to see this for himself

listener wrote: I hope he does try to educate himself re. the background to this defamation case he has to 'fairly' adjudicate on!

womandotcom wrote:The suspense is killing me. I keep starting jobs and abandoning them as I can't focus on anything

littlepixie wrote:Thanks for the update from today. I don't post much anymore on the forums but I read every day and want Tony to know that I am following this and he has my full support.

Well done to all those who managed to attend in person to support Tony. I wish I could have been there.

The McCanns didn't have all their own way today did they

aiyoyo wrote:I bet the Judge has discerned for himself the bundle of money mccanns spent on pursuing the prosecution of an innocent man

sharonl wrote:

The McCanns were represented by Jacob Dean (barrister), Adam Tudor, Isabel Hudson and two assistants.

After re-reading Tony's release, it dawns on me just how many heavy-duty legal eagles represented the mccanns against lone TB, supported by a strong-hold of 8 laymen. It just goes to show one side has unlimited money, while the other side has priceless friends.
The evil vs the good can't be more black and white than that.

I strongly believe the legal team of five comes with an expensive tag. I don't believe they work pro-bono, not on something like that anyway without publicity for CR. At most, Isabel Hudson's works may be thrown in pro-bono as she was (and is) the one tasked to monitor this forum. If she's charged hourly that could bankrupt the mccanns considering the countless hours she spent here. I would imagine her spying work here tallies with mccanns' statement that CR do a vast amount of work for them, quietly behind the scenes, mostly without charge.
However, I cant imagine a top Barrister and a senior partner of CR would work for no monetary returns for a pair of otherwise non-entities if not for missing Madeleine.

Isabel Hudson, and the two assistants might have been thrown in without extra charge to the mccanns for good measures in case CR couldn't cope with the notes taking especially considering there were 153 (vexatious) allegations mccanns wanted handled.

• To close our website, whose domain name was: www.madeleinefoundation.org‘

It's a shame they compelled MF to be closed. Personally, I feel TB should contest that.
So long as articles they considered to be libelous were removed, why should they stop TB running a website?
It's a blanket infringement on TB's right to freedom of expression which is not correct.
After all the hard work of TB and other people that went into that site, and it has quite a readership, why shouldn't it remain, in a democratic nation where free speech is a guaranteed liberty.

This was resolved as follows. The Judge invited Jacob Dean [the McCanns’ barrister] to take a 5-minute adjournment to consider whether he wished to reduce his 153 alleged breaches to, say, ‘the 10 most serious breaches’. He said that if the McCanns could prove those breaches, it was unnecessary to prove the other 143. After 15 minutes, the McCanns’ legal team came back into Court and said that they would submit a new application based on ‘around 25’ of the most serious breaches. The trial will then be confined effectively to an examination of just those 25 alleged breaches. The Judge gave them until 4pm on Friday 17 February to serve this new application on me. He also suggested to Mr Dean that Carter-Ruck needed to be much more precise than they had been about the words I used that were said to be in breach of the undertaking and which term of any undertaking they were alleged to breach.

Well, well, if they have to put in a new application listing only 25 breaches, I cant help wondering if the alleged breach of the sale of 60-reason leaflet would be included this time round because it would involve implicating their bait they used to entrap TB. If they rescind that, maybe it's valid reason enough for TB to cite their litigation intention was vexatious.

I had applied for an Order that one of the McCanns make a Witness Statement to (a) state what evidence there is that Madeleine McCann was abducted and (b) to state what evidence there was, as claimed in Isabel Hudson’s Affidavit, that any of my actions had, as the McCanns claimed, ‘harmed the search for Madeleine’. These applications were refused.
The Judge said that it was for the Claimants to give whatever evidence they felt was necessary to support their application to commit me to prison and that if I felt there was insufficient evidence that an abduction had occurred I would have the right to make submissions about this in my closing speech at the trial.

It's good to see the Judge is open-minded about that.


UNQUOTE TONY

Willo wrote:A good first day at the crease. Well done TB.

Just a thought though


Maybe by reducing the amount of breaches was the only way to keep Mike Gunnil out of the dock and at the same time make it look like they are doing TB a favour? Denying access to Mike Gunnill straight off would have been too obvious. So approve him, then hand back a get out clause.