Re: The discrepencies in the McCanns and cronies statements.

by Guest 24.04.12 22:59

russiandoll wrote: who were the others [apart from the tapas 9 and Wilkins] Gerry refers to here as forming the group for a reconstruction?

"There were 12 or 15 people involved and it is inevitable there would be inconsistencies”,

Jez Wilkins was the only one outside the group wasn't he? Who apart from him would have been needed?

Could be the Smiths.

by Zozo 25.04.12 2:46

Can anyone give me the link where the mccann's phones records are analysed in details, about the deleted calls or messages.
I remember there were something fishy about their phones records, but i can't find those information now.
Thanks.

by Ribisl 25.04.12 5:25

Zozo wrote:Can anyone give me the link where the mccann's phones records are analysed in details, about the deleted calls or messages.
I remember there were something fishy about their phones records, but i can't find those information now.
Thanks.

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t3365-the-tapas-phone-autopsy?highlight=phone+records

by tuom 30.04.12 15:48

candyfloss wrote:
russiandoll wrote: who were the others [apart from the tapas 9 and Wilkins] Gerry refers to here as forming the group for a reconstruction?

"There were 12 or 15 people involved and it is inevitable there would be inconsistencies”,

Jez Wilkins was the only one outside the group wasn't he? Who apart from him would have been needed?

Could be the Smiths.

The "abductor" sorry could'nt help it The discrepencies in the McCanns and cronies statements. - Page 3 3361253850

by **tigger** 30.04.12 18:40

tuom wrote:
candyfloss wrote:
russiandoll wrote: who were the others [apart from the tapas 9 and Wilkins] Gerry refers to here as forming the group for a reconstruction?

"There were 12 or 15 people involved and it is inevitable there would be inconsistencies”,

Jez Wilkins was the only one outside the group wasn't he? Who apart from him would have been needed?

Could be the Smiths.

The "abductor" sorry could'nt help it

We can solve this!
Ian Horrocks believes it was a couple who abducted Maddie. Since the window of opportunity remains the same, were there two people hiding behind the door when Gerry looked in?
That's fine, 9 tapas, 2 abductors, Wilkins, Wilkins' baby. We're getting there.

by Ribisl 30.04.12 18:56

tigger wrote:
tuom wrote:
candyfloss wrote:
russiandoll wrote: who were the others [apart from the tapas 9 and Wilkins] Gerry refers to here as forming the group for a reconstruction?

"There were 12 or 15 people involved and it is inevitable there would be inconsistencies”,

Jez Wilkins was the only one outside the group wasn't he? Who apart from him would have been needed?

Could be the Smiths.

The "abductor" sorry could'nt help it

We can solve this!
Ian Horrocks believes it was a couple who abducted Maddie. Since the window of opportunity remains the same, were there two people hiding behind the door when Gerry looked in?
That's fine, 9 tapas, 2 abductors, Wilkins, Wilkins' baby. We're getting there.

1 Portuguese looking lady who happened to be living in Portugal
1 rather uncouth Portuguese dog (unlike our own Keela and Eddie) that happened to be relieving itself under the lamp post as the abductor(s) crossed the street with a sleeping child

by Nina 30.04.12 19:38

And this couple were intelligent because they could speak english, though it may have not been their first language. As they would have needed to control Madeleine apparently.

by jd 30.04.12 19:49

tuom wrote: Jez Wilkins was the only one outside the group wasn't he? Who apart from him would have been needed?

Charlotte Pennington....

by Ribisl 30.04.12 20:03

jd wrote:
tuom wrote: Jez Wilkins was the only one outside the group wasn't he? Who apart from him would have been needed?

Charlotte Pennington....

She was in contact with Madeleine some time during the creche hours on the 3rd but not after that. She joined the search after 22.15.
Catriona Baker on the other hand said she'd seen Kate pick up the children from the Tapas area that evening.

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t4683-who-saw-madeleine-on-the-3rd-of-may?highlight=who+say+madeleine+on+3rd+may

by jd 30.04.12 21:02

Ribisl wrote:
jd wrote:
tuom wrote: Jez Wilkins was the only one outside the group wasn't he? Who apart from him would have been needed?

Charlotte Pennington....

She was in contact with Madeleine some time during the creche hours on the 3rd but not after that. She joined the search after 22.15.
Catriona Baker on the other hand said she'd seen Kate pick up the children from the Tapas area that evening.

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t4683-who-saw-madeleine-on-the-3rd-of-may?highlight=who+say+madeleine+on+3rd+may

She says she was the first on the scene and in the apartment on the 3rd. Then we have this outrageous sightings of british tourist way out in the dark sea at night. He was wearing the fishermen yellow jacket that is common in PDL for fishermen so what made him be British who knows!

by friedtomatoes 01.05.12 6:07

jd wrote:
Ribisl wrote:
jd wrote:
tuom wrote: Jez Wilkins was the only one outside the group wasn't he? Who apart from him would have been needed?

Charlotte Pennington....

She was in contact with Madeleine some time during the creche hours on the 3rd but not after that. She joined the search after 22.15.
Catriona Baker on the other hand said she'd seen Kate pick up the children from the Tapas area that evening.

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t4683-who-saw-madeleine-on-the-3rd-of-may?highlight=who+say+madeleine+on+3rd+may

She says she was the first on the scene and in the apartment on the 3rd. Then we have this outrageous sightings of british tourist way out in the dark sea at night. He was wearing the fishermen yellow jacket that is common in PDL for fishermen so what made him be British who knows!

Rubbish! Her statements to police in Portugal do not tally with daily mail metodo 3 tittle tattle. Oh yes she gave a statement to M3 that she went into flat 5a that night and that robert murat was in the kitchen LOL, yet her pj interview says she never went in, who is telling PORKIES by the dozen

by russiandoll 01.05.12 10:44

russiandoll wrote: who were the others [apart from the tapas 9 and Wilkins] Gerry refers to here as forming the group for a reconstruction?

"There were 12 or 15 people involved and it is inevitable there would be inconsistencies”,

Jez Wilkins was the only one outside the group wasn't he? Who apart from him would have been needed?

glad a discussion re this is developping....when I posted the above recently, I had G Amaral's statement in mind
"one or two of the ten or TWELVE elements that used to enter that apartment".

the common number in G and A's statements is 12......and Amaral is def not ref to 3rd May, but a regular occurrence.

by jd 01.05.12 13:28

friedtomatoes wrote:

Rubbish! Her statements to police in Portugal do not tally with daily mail metodo 3 tittle tattle. Oh yes she gave a statement to M3 that she went into flat 5a that night and that robert murat was in the kitchen LOL, yet her pj interview says she never went in, who is telling PORKIES by the dozen

She said it again in person this time on national TV on the Dispatches documentary, 18 October 2007 "I went straight to the apartment. I sort of walked in, did a quick scan around and been told 'No, no. She's not here, she's not here'. Kate McCann was outside and she was very distressed. She was saying things like 'They've taken her' and 'She's gone' and, you know, 'Where is she? Where is she?'

by friedtomatoes 01.05.12 20:57

From her PJ interview

- The witness states that she participated in the searches, together with her colleague, Amy, searching various areas of the Ocean Club establishment. She also states that she searched the patio area of the residence where Madeleine stayed with her parents and siblings, and during which, she encountered many individuals inside the apartment but was not able to tell if they were complex employees or friends of the couple. She did not enter the residence in question;

!!!!

What does search the patio area mean? She encountered many individuals INSIDE the apartment but never went in, presumably she met them outside. Flobadops!

by jd 01.05.12 21:01

She said she went in on TV and to M3, but didn't in her PJ statement...who knows the truth except she is another who has shown to change their story to suit and has zero consistency in what she says. i.e. lying

by friedtomatoes 01.05.12 22:23

jd wrote:She said she went in on TV and to M3, but didn't in her PJ statement...who knows the truth except she is another who has shown to change their story to suit and has zero consistency in what she says. i.e. lying

why are there so many lying bastards in this sordid tale

by Liz Eagles 01.05.12 23:58

friedtomatoes wrote:
jd wrote:She said she went in on TV and to M3, but didn't in her PJ statement...who knows the truth except she is another who has shown to change their story to suit and has zero consistency in what she says. i.e. lying

why are there so many lying bastards in this sordid tale

I'm uncomfortable with your last post - it's bringing flashbacks of advocatus. Tell me I'm wrong and I'll post a huge apology.

by friedtomatoes 02.05.12 11:28

Aquila, I have no idea what you are talking about.
nah

by russiandoll 02.05.12 12:59

russiandoll wrote:
russiandoll wrote: who were the others [apart from the tapas 9 and Wilkins] Gerry refers to here as forming the group for a reconstruction?

"There were 12 or 15 people involved and it is inevitable there would be inconsistencies”,

Jez Wilkins was the only one outside the group wasn't he? Who apart from him would have been needed?

glad a discussion re this is developping....when I posted the above recently, I had G Amaral's statement in mind
"one or two of the ten or TWELVE elements that used to enter that apartment".

the common number in G and A's statements is 12......and Amaral is def not ref to 3rd May, but a regular occurrence.

According to the tapas crew, they never regularly went into 5a; it was the Paynes they congregated in for lunch while the McCanns kept to themselves in their apartment....who are the 1 or 2 out of a dozen regular visitors GA has in mind I wonder and why was 5a so popular that many people visited it, on more than one occasion, sounds like a bit of a habit.

by Angelique 04.05.12 4:29

IIRC Goncalo Amaral mentions in The Truth of the Lie that apartment 5a had no signs that children stayed there, no milk or bottles or foodstuffs associated with children. So maybe it was a staged scene for May 3rd so it looked lived in?

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