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Post by Verdi 02.03.21 12:28


The dates of Gerrys Sabbatical year in Amsterdam are important for my research, did he take this year off after the twins were born?

No, Gerry McCann his wife and daughter Madeleine moved to Amsterdam in January 2004 for one year for Gerry McCann's fellowship study.

Were they still living in Amsterdam up until maybe Sep 05?

No, they returned to England from Amsterdam at the beginning of December 2004. Gerry McCann went back to Amsterdam to complete the final two weeks of his study, then returned again to England.


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The PJ cleared him, even though the Tapas crew and other witnesses smeared him heavily. Not to mention the Press trial by Media!

How and if he was brought in, and then discarded is still open for discussion even now.

The Pawns always fall first?
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Post by Silentscope 02.03.21 12:36

Verdi wrote:

The dates of Gerrys Sabbatical year in Amsterdam are important for my research, did he take this year off after the twins were born?

No, Gerry McCann his wife and daughter Madeleine moved to Amsterdam in January 2004 for one year for Gerry McCann's fellowship study.

Were they still living in Amsterdam up until maybe Sep 05?

No, they returned to England from Amsterdam at the beginning of December 2004.  Gerry McCann went back to Amsterdam to complete the final two weeks of his study, then returned again to England.


Then there must be some other explanation for the events I am researching. 

Thank you Verdi.
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Post by Guest 09.03.21 15:35

We should never lose sight of the fact that the very falsehood of the apportionment of blame the McCann's heaped upon themselves for leaving their children to dine with friends is instrumental and key to the success of the psychological lever deployed to anchor gullible minds firmly to the belief not only that the Tapas dining scenario was genuine but also in the other half of this co-dependant falsehood -  the narrative of abduction per se, paedophile or otherwise.

The reason for the success is that the stance taken alludes to the acceptance of complicity and compromise of some part played in the situation. It serves to garner empathy and shows a degree of vulnerability to the audience, all of which create the framework for a credible story like a glove-in-hand fit. The one allowed the other to happen.  On the face of it though it does as it was intended, and appears to be within the realms of possibility 

The ensnarement of the audience to the believability of these symbiotic halves of the same story relies heavily upon those cleverly crafted spun yarns being so articulately enmeshed to appear as entwined and inextricably linked to the notion of abduction as goods train and wagons - seamlessly trundling along together forevermore without question. 
 
All so beautifully orchestrated or so they thought.

  We should never underestimate the true extent of this artful work of masterful deceit that we bear witness to, one that has all the hallmarks of considerable preplanning over a matter of days not hours, it quickly became apparent that not was all it appeared and that this was no surprise abduction scenario, instead what it in fact was, was a scripted tall tale of two interdependent parts, more lie laden than Pinnochio's Adventures, and designed to be executed at will and with aplomb from inception. 
 
 Our mission thus remains steadfast in execution as we continue the unravelling of the McCann creation, to explode and dispel the myths, for that is what they are and dismantling and laying bare the co-dependent parts ie: The Tapas dining scenario that permitted the 'abduction' to occur and to expose the complete fabrication in its full and unbridled splendour.
 
The task ahead? To break the deadlock of the perpetual and relentlessly regurgitated, unsubstantiated, unevidenced, and frank absurdity of an unchallenged status quo narrative adopted by the mainstream media for the 13 years since Madeleine disappeared back in May 2007.

 All that remains now is for all else to be pushed aside and for evidenced-based theory to take centre stage and be afforded the long-overdue platform it so rightfully deserves. 

 The scales will fall from the eyes of the blinkered in the unveiling of the true story of a couple of sly foxes tales, and justice will be served in the name of their innocent 3-year-old firstborn daughter whose tragic disappearance at such a young age and before her life had barely begun, touched the world to the core in what must now rank amongst the most notorious case of a missing person in modern living history.
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Post by Lance De Boils 22.03.21 6:27

Good post, miffy8.
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Post by Verdi 22.03.21 11:23

All that remains now is for all else to be pushed aside and for evidenced-based theory to take centre stage and be afforded the long-overdue platform it so rightfully deserves.

In a nutshell....

And that is precisely what CMOMM has been doing since it's creation (Jill Havern singlerose ) twelve years ago.

And that is why CMOMM strives to debunk baseless theorizing and fantasy scenario here on the forum - unbelievably still being created and/or repeated after all these years!

Wake up coffee2 !

Reminds me, my mug's half empty ....

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Post by Guest 23.03.21 10:54

And that is precisely what CMOMM has been doing since it's creation (Jill Havern [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] ) twelve years ago.

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Post by Guest 23.03.21 11:10

agree and I wish I had known of the forum 12 years ago.
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Post by KDG 20.07.21 6:39

Based on all the evidence and theories I'm aware of, I have to conclude that Maddie did not die before Thursday, May 3rd. It makes little sense to hide a body and then dispose of it some nights later. However, I suspect that Maddie may have sustained critical injuries before that date.

However, on a HiDeHo livestream, Paulumbo left a comment about the colour of the bedsheets on Maddie's bed. I wish I had kept a record of where the comment was left. But, he said that the bedsheets should have been blue, or something like that.

So, I immediately thought that maybe Maddie was injured earlier in the week, exactly as we already believe: she climbed up onto the window ledge and fell behind the couch, sustaining a head injury. She was then put in her bed to recover. But, she died from those injuries, and this probably happened on May 3rd.

So, not only was the body disposed of, but the sheets were changed. And the sheets were changed because as evidence, they could prove damning. This might also explain why there were supposedly no hair fibres on that bed.

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Post by PeterMac 20.07.21 7:43

The sheets were white. On BOTH Beds in the children's room and on both beds (pushed together to appear as one) in the parent's room.
White is the hotel standard for sheets and towels in rented property, as it can be washed at high temperature – with bleach – in industrial laundries in a big load from several apartments, and needs no special treatment.

Do you have any "evidence" that the sheets should have been BLUE ?
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Post by Guest 20.07.21 7:55

I've also thought that Madeleine was taken ill (for whatever reason) and died sometime later.

I think the story about Kate sleeping in the kids bedroom is part of that.

She was keeping an eye on her.
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Post by Guest 20.07.21 7:58

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Post by crusader 20.07.21 8:28

I thought it was a blue blanket, there is one on the other bed as well.
They are not using duvets, so a thin blanket would have been used.
There is also blue blankets on the parents bed.
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Post by Silentscope 20.07.21 10:16

Every statement or media report, even stories told in ‘Madeleine’ the book - lead the reader AWAY from Tuesday night.

The ‘Wayback’ Machine data.
Gerry buying sunglasses on Tuesday.
The Fenn crying report.
The ‘Chekaya’ incident.
The ‘last Photo’ by the Pool weather.

All most likely falsifications to serve one purpose.
To mislead from the true time of death.
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Post by Verdi 20.07.21 12:36

Forensic collections 4th May 2007

In this search the following was recovered:
- various hairs from the floor in the area of the doorway of the bedroom with two single beds from where the minor disappeared, they being placed inside a paper envelope in accordance with instructions issued by the Biology Section of the LPC and referenced as trace evidence [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.];

- various hairs from the floor area next to the bed where the missing child was sleeping, they being placed inside a paper envelope in accordance with instructions issued by the Biology Section of the LPC and referenced as trace evidence [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.];

- various hairs from the top of the bed where the missing child was sleeping, they being placed inside a paper envelope in accordance with instructions issued by the Biology Section of the LPC and referenced as trace evidence [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.];
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A search was also made for possible biological traces and fibres on the single bed from where the minor disappeared, using a variable-wave light source appropriate for the task, the result obtained having been negative.

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Post by Verdi 20.07.21 13:18

As regards the 'tragic accident' scenario, I see a major flaw.

Accidents happen all the time, why the need to go to such lengths to conceal?

The family were on holiday where, apart from their group of friends/acquaintances, they were unknown, there hourly movements could never be determined - proven by the fact that no one can say where they were, when they were ad/or why they were.

Under the given circumstances, an accident could be so easily explained, even if one, two or three of the children were sedated.  Which I've never believed to be the case by the way.

The parents, aided and abetted by their group, concocted a story of abduction, most likely associated with paedophilia and/or child trafficking - that has to be more difficult to maintain than a simple case of accidental death.

If they were to risk their lives through a charge of willful neglect as some people think to be likely, building the framework around an abduction scenario would be far more damning than a fatal accident.  

The parents openly admitted leaving their children alone every night to fend for themselves - you can't get much more neglectful than that, even if 'it felt so safe!'.

Unless of course there was a reason, a much more serious reason, why an accident was concealed.

The major problem with this case, there is so little evidence and what evidence there is has been carefully shrouded in doubt through the groups machinations, the media and the sticky fingers of the many interlopers!

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Post by Verdi 20.07.21 13:21

Then there was the cleaner ....

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Post by sandancer 20.07.21 15:54

crusader wrote:I thought it was a blue blanket, there is one on the other bed as well.
They are not using duvets, so a thin blanket would have been used.
There is also blue blankets on the parents bed.


Definitely blue bedcovers , and blue and white checked curtains .

Not as Matt Oldfield says in his statement " green and yellow " ! Hmm !

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Post by Silentscope 20.07.21 16:16

If Matt was only able to see in the Bedroom because of the Street lighting coming in through the window, it may have been due to the Yellow light emitted from the Sodium bulbs outside, causing the colours to shift. 
The shutters would have to have been left open enough so the air holes between the slats let light in.

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Post by Verdi 12.04.22 17:22

The role of the diplomatic corp

This isn't the first time I've raised this issue - and won't be the last, some niggles never go away until satisfactorily explained, even then not so sure they ever go away completely

Why were the McCanns afforded unprecedented support by embassies and consulates across Europe during those very early weeks of Madeleine's disappearance?  The actions broke just about every rule of the diplomatic corp book.  Considering the true reason for the European tour said to be in the interests of Madeleine but in effect an elaborate PR exercise.  So why was this allowed to happen?

My strong suspicions immediately think Clarence Mitchell, so much of the case intrigue seems to be entrenched at his door.  You only need look at his career path to realise the extent of his power, his influence and connections throughout the media and political world.

The European tour, the campaign that cast shadows over the integrity of specific European countries and North Africa, that suggested illicit trafficking and harbouring of minors - oddly enough Germany being a focal point.

Kate McCann's book 'madeleine'..

We chose Spain first, as it is so close to Portugal. After the British and Irish, most other visitors to the Algarve are German or Dutch, so we added Berlin and Amsterdam to the itinerary. Finally, we felt we needed to venture beyond Europe, to north Africa. Morocco was so easily accessible from Praia da Luz – ferries make the thirty-five-minute crossing from Tarifa in Spain to Tangiers several times a day – that there was a distinct possibility Madeleine could have been taken there. The Foreign Office helped us by arranging consular assistance in all these countries.

We were met at Madrid airport by several British Embassy staff, a liaison officer and two press officers, as well as a crowd of journalists and photographers, and taken to the hotel where we were to spend the night. Clarence briefed Gerry and me about the meetings and press conferences arranged for the next day and then we went up to our room to get some rest.

Once we’d been introduced to the British ambassador to Spain, the British consul for Madrid and a lady from the Justice and Home Affairs Department, we were scheduled to talk to representatives of three Spanish non-governmental organizations (NGOs) working with missing and exploited children.

In the afternoon we met Señor Rubalcaba, the Spanish interior minister. He listened attentively and his manner was gentle and sympathetic. He showed us the case file that had already been opened for Madeleine, which instantly brought us both some reassurance. There are two things I remember Señor Rubalcaba saying to us. ‘We are treating Madeleine as if she is one of our own,’ and ‘As time moves on, people forget. Please feel free to come and knock on my door at any point to remind me.’

At the beginning of June, Gerry had a call from the director of communications at the Foreign Office. There was concern in the government, he said, that Clarence was ‘becoming the story’. I am not quite sure what he meant by this. Clarence was certainly a visible presence and perhaps his open, affable style prevented him from being quite as anonymous as the Foreign Office would have liked. Perhaps it had drawn attention to the fact that they were still providing us with a media spokesperson and questions were being asked. It had been a month since Madeleine’s disappearance, so maybe they were simply trying gently to prompt us into appointing somebody of our own to help us.

Our schedule in Berlin looked a bit daunting, but in the event everything ran incredibly smoothly. Admirable German efficiency! After a television interview, we were off to meet the ambassador, Peter Torry, a nice man with three daughters of his own.

Some commentators seemed to be very preoccupied by how it was we were able to cope with meeting and greeting politicians,

Our next meeting was with the deputy justice minister, who gave us a document relating to a conference on child welfare that had been held in Berlin two days previously. Over lunch, I browsed through it. It dealt with the dramatic rise in child pornography and the way the internet had turned this hideous blight on our society into a billion-dollar industry.

The final encounter of the day was with the mayor of Berlin, Klaus Wowereit. We’d heard that he was a colourful and charismatic man, well liked and something of a celebrity in the region. If his popularity and the respect in which he was held by the citizens of Berlin could benefit Madeleine, we were more than prepared to have another few hundred photographs taken standing next to him while he appealed for help.

At the Embassy, Ambassador Torry had been joined by David Connolly, an officer from SOCA (the Serious Organised Crime Agency).

The next day followed a similar tightly packed format to our visits to Madrid and Berlin. We had meetings with the ambassador, the UK police liaison officer for the KLPD (the Dutch national police), the consul general and a government policy adviser. We talked to the national police coordinator for missing persons.

Miss Biddy Brett-Rooks, the consul general for Casablanca, was there to meet us when we landed

That day several senior and powerful figures spent time with us, including the minister of the interior, Mr Benmoussa, and the director general of the police, Charki Draiss. The police attaché had told us earlier that for these meetings to take place, permission must have been granted by the King himself. Both Mr Benmoussa and Mr Draiss reiterated the message of the day:

On our final morning, the lady who’d been interpreting for us arranged for us to meet the minister of Islamic affairs, who happened to be her father-in-law. I was keen to talk to an Islamic religious leader to seek the support and prayers of the Muslim community.

I was grateful to find there was a jet available to return us to Portugal. At Lisbon airport, Gerry and I said our goodbyes to Clarence. He was going home to his family and the Media Monitoring Unit. He’d done a fantastic job over the previous three weeks (with everything we’d packed in, it felt like much longer than that), and what was important to us was that we knew Clarence cared deeply about getting Madeleine back and would continue to help us in any way he could. We couldn’t have anticipated he’d be rejoining us as soon as he did, and we never thought for a minute that, four years down the line, he’d still be fighting Madeleine’s corner alongside us.
*Note:  Every meeting identified by Ms Healy during the European/North African tour was centered around child sex abuse/trafficking/paedophilia/abduction/kidnap.  The tour took place only weeks after Madeleine allegedly disappeared - why the certainty !?!  

Ordinarily this just doesn't happen, such personal attention does not fall with the remit of an ambassadors function,

Think Clarence Mitchell .... Mr Big, contacts in the government, the Foreign and Commonwealth Office, the church (he also arranged the Vatican visit), the media.

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Post by Verdi 12.04.22 17:33

And then The Tide Turns as we come out of the European tour - so say she..

Our visits to Spain, Germany, the Netherlands and Morocco had given us a glimpse of the massive scale of the problems of child abduction, trafficking and exploitation, and we felt we must broaden the scope of our campaign to embrace all the victims of these terrible crimes. We were now aware of the need, for example, to set up coordinated and effective child rescue alerts across Europe. Given the huge support we had been given ourselves, we had a moral obligation to try to do something to make Europe a safer place for all children. If, God forbid, we couldn’t help Madeleine, we were determined that some lasting good should come out of our nightmare.

The sexual exploitation of children in particular is shockingly rife worldwide. The victims of the billion-dollar child-pornography industry are becoming younger, too: approximately a third are under the age of six. A lot of what I’d learned made me feel sick. I was horrified, as a reasonably intelligent and well-informed person, and as a mother, by how little I knew of this. I felt as if I’d been living my life in a cocoon.

Another valuable source of information was Lady Catherine Meyer, the friend Cherie Blair had mentioned to me in her phone call. Catherine, the wife of the former British ambassador to the US, had set up PACT (Parents and Abducted Children Together) after her own two sons were abducted by her ex-husband. She has fought tirelessly ever since for a better international response to such crimes. I so admire her commitment to and passion for protecting children.

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Post by crusader 12.04.22 20:31

And what good came of meeting with ambassadors, mayor, police chiefs politicians etc  in foreign parts, not forgetting the Pope,....   nothing.

Why indeed were the McCann's treated like visiting VIPs? 
It beggars belief.

Has Clarence M really  got that much influence on foreign dignitaries?

All the time flying about to other countries achieved zero, hours on planes and not 1 hour looking for Madeleine.
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crusader wrote:And what good came of meeting with ambassadors, mayor, police chiefs politicians etc in foreign parts, not forgetting the Pope,....

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