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Post by ChippyM 18.04.17 10:22

Get'emGonçalo wrote:What gets me, ChippyM, is when they talk like that, or worse, on twitter and then tag @metpoliceuk

I assume the McCann supporters are exempt from the word 'troll'.

Yep, just proof they are nuts and that the word 'troll' is an attempt to censor people. The McCanns are litigious and have the whole UK media on side so they can try and intimidate people by saying 'trolling' against them will be passed to the police.....I'm honestly not sure how bothered the police are about any of it, on either side. Michael Walker would make an interesting study for those University of Huddersfield 'academics' that's for sure!
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Post by Doug D 25.04.17 21:52

Trying to find where the clip came from and whether it's true:

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Post by Libra 27.04.17 15:16

Glad to see that Katie Hopkins still tweeting her opinion about this case.  In response to the  McCann's 10th anniversary message:
"The McCann's call us the "noisy minority". As I see it, the majority have been silenced"
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Post by Keitei 27.04.17 15:28

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Post by Patience 30.04.17 9:27

Prof David Wilson[size=14][size=1]Verified account[/size] [ltr]@ProfDavidWilson[/ltr]  3m3 minutes ago
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I've now been asked by 15 media outlets and/or journalists to discuss #mccann case - so, just for the record, I won't.
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Post by mootle 02.05.17 20:32

The parents have always acted in a strange way, says a German psychology expert #mccann #maccans #maddie http://m.bild.de/news/ausland/maddie-mccann/das-sagt-ein-experte-zehn-jahre-nach-maddies-verschwinden-51424070.bildMobile.html … pic.twitter.com/iL6XLylNIc

https://twitter.com/ElaPodg/status/859478393045344258

Sadly,  my German isn't up to translating this, here's google:

"The behavior of the parents was always unusual
McCann's parents
Maddie's parents, Kate and Gerry McCann Photo: Imago, Reuters

Articles by: BEATE KRAUSE released on
02.05.2017 - 10:24 h

Dr. Christian Lüdke has been working in the care of violence and crime victims for about 25 years, taking care of people who have lost relatives through accidents, murder or terrorist attacks (such as last time at the "Berliner Breitscheidplatz"). He was responsible for the psychological training of special units at NRW police for many years.

When little Maddie disappeared without a trace, Lüdke said a few months later about the parents' behavior, Kate and Gerry McCann (now 49). This had made him "stupid", as it does not correspond to the behavior of parents in similar situations, which he has supervised in the past years.
The psychotherapist did not rule out the fact that Maddie's parents might have been guilty of her daughter's disappearance and may have had something to do with her death. His opinion met with criticism at the time, and Lüdke was attacked and even threatened.
Maddie's parents at a press conference in Berlin 2007. Gerry McCann shows a photo of his missing daughter.
Maddies parents at a press conference in Berlin 2007 Photo: AP

Berlin / Essen - Now, ten years later, BILD wanted to know from him: "How do you see the Maddie case and the role of parents today?"

Dr. Christian Lüdke: "For me the behavior of the McCanns is still exceptionally unusual and atypical. In my work, I have never experienced the fact that parents whose children have disappeared behave like the McCanns: they looked extremely controlled and controlled, have left nothing to themselves. Shortly thereafter, they went jogging, traveled around the world, started the search.

All this still amazes me, because first of all they were for me first victims, whose child has disappeared. "
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    For 10 years missing The 8 most important theories on Maddie's disappearance

    Ten years ago, Maddie McCann disappeared from a holiday resort in Portugal without a trace. What happened at that time - BILD mentions eight theories.

But is it not comprehensible to divert a piece of normality?

Lüdke: "No question, but I have seen that other parents are usually affected by other mechanisms: they are completely shocked, are 'outside of themselves' and feel themselves in the 'wrong film'. They experience an alternating bath of feelings between hope and fear, which can last for years, until such time as there are certain insights. Of course they also try to distract themselves. But a 'normal' life can not usually be talked about, it is more a 'functioning'. For such parents are a monstrosity, two laws of life were broken: 1. Your child died before them, and 2. It has not died a natural death. This makes her, in the truest sense, 'heartbroken'.

In addition, parents often make mutual reproaches: who has done what or why. This leads to bad debt. Many couples do not stop this, separate. In contrast to the McCanns, they were very connected from the beginning, they also showed their great closeness in public. "
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The McCanns in May 2012 at a run event in Liverpool. With their participation they wanted to draw attention to their missing daughter Photo: Imago

There are several theories that might have happened in the case of Maddie. Could it really be that the McCanns had killed their child or hid a deadly accident?

Lüdke: "For me as an outsider, this can not be answered. But there are cases where mothers suffer from a disorder and can not build a (strong) emotional, loving attachment to their child. Then the child can become a disruptive factor, one must get rid of, often shortly after birth.

This type of "conflict resolution" can also happen years later - because the problem is initially superimposed, for example when partnership and work seems to be going well. But it can come back later - and a catastrophe occurs.

Maddie was begotten by artificial insemination, the parents had tried in vain to get a child in the normal way for many years. Perhaps this fact also affected the partnership. "


Even at the then Pope Benedict XVI, Kate McCann, a Catholic believer, was present in the search campaign for Maddie (archive photo of May 30, 2007) Photo: dpa

If the parents were actually involved in Maddie's death - how could they have lived with that debt so long? As faithful Catholics, they even had Pope Benedict XVI. met.

According to Lüdke, "There are people who can create an intolerable reality after such an act: instead of suppressing the act, they create a new, their own truth in a creative process.

Maddie's parents still claim that their daughter is alive. Even if there is - objectively speaking - no indications. "
Missing case Madeleine McCann

    To the 14th birthday birthday present for missing Maddie

    Ten years after their disappearance, the McCanns continue to hope for a reunion with Maddie, buy her a birthday present.
    100 000 Euro New money injection for the search for Maddie

    Prime Minister Theresa May has once again provided 100,000 euros to finally find a trail to Maddie McCann.
    Files in the case of Maddie parents still do not count as innocent

    Although suspects are officially excluded, the parents of the missing Maddie are still not considered innocent.

What would happen that such rejectors tell the truth?

Lüdke: "If there are new, clear indications or testimonies, which allow the construct to coincide. Some people also live for decades, making their conscience easier on their deathbed. "
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Kate and Gerry McCann at an event in London for missing children in October 2014

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Post by awach 02.05.17 21:42

In this sentences:


Lüdke: "For me as an outsider, this can not be answered. But there are cases where mothers suffer from a disorder and can not build a (strong) emotional, loving attachment to their child. Then the child can become a disruptive factor, one must get rid of, often shortly after birth.

Dr. Lüdke uses the Word Beziehungsstörung. That is in ICD 10 the Diagnosis Code F68.8. Of course he chooses his words very carefully. 

Sorry for my bad english I'm native german. This was my first post.
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Post by sallypelt 03.05.17 10:01

     PAT BROWN @ProfilerPatB
Thank you, Colin Sutton, for confirming that the Scotland Yard investigation has never been legitimate. #mccann



Wendy Kerfoot @1965Wendy
Thank you Colin, for confirming what a lot of us already thought @colinsutton



£12,000,000 and counting. DISGUSTING!!!!
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Post by sallypelt 03.05.17 10:11

courtesy of a Twitter poster:

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Post by pennylane 03.05.17 10:17

There's going to be some heavy duty damage control meetings at Operation Grange!
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Post by sallypelt 03.05.17 10:17

SKJ @51hmfc
How much taxpayer money was wasted on #operationgrange when from the start it was clear it was never going to be an "investigation"? #mccann
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Post by sallypelt 03.05.17 10:18

pennylane wrote:There's going to be some heavy duty damage control to meetings at Operation Grange!  
I feel a catastrophic storm approaching

The Genie is well and truly out of the bottle!
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Post by pennylane 03.05.17 10:18

sallypelt wrote:
pennylane wrote:There's going to be some heavy duty damage control meetings at Operation Grange!  
I feel a catastrophic storm approaching

Yes I can't wait!
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Post by Jill Havern 03.05.17 10:21

DCI Nicola 'can we have a new remit pdq please?' Wall must be onphone to Theresa May/Amber Rudd/Cressida Dick today.

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Post by Cmaryholmes 07.05.17 14:14

There are no new comments on #mccann. Is twitter monitoring/censoring?
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It's last gasp was when Blair/Mandelson/Campbell set up the Media Monitoring Unit.

BBC "sexed up documents" and the David Kelly affair were the dying embers of the mainstream questioning Government when it really mattered.
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Post by Jill Havern 14.05.17 6:54

Dave Heavy @Heavy_Dave
I understand the #McCann$ are to appeal the result of the #Eurovision .


Mave in the UK. . . @_DarkMavis
#Eurovision won by the only man in Portugal who hasn't been named as a suspect in the Maddie #McCann 'abduction' tale......

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Post by sharonl 17.05.17 21:54

Wasn't the car hired by a Michael Wright (not their Michael Wright) prior to the McCanns hiring it?
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Post by Nina 17.05.17 22:24

sharonl wrote:Wasn't the car hired by a Michael Wright (not their Michael Wright) prior to the McCanns hiring it?
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MICHAEL_WRIGHT_1_MAY_08.htm

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/59-DA-27.htm

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Post by sharonl 17.05.17 22:45

Thanks Nina

John Brown & Michael Wright had the car for the week 8 - 15 May.

There was some concern over the mileage clocked up by the McCanns.

Did the car have a digital or a standard milometer? I am wondering whether it was tampered with in any way.
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Post by Phoebe 17.05.17 23:36

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Am I understanding correctly that the 4 week period which saw the car in question "out of service" predates Michael Wright's (the golfer) usage which ran from May 8th to May 15th 2007? The above article seems to suggest that before May 8th the McCann's hire car had been "off the road" for a month without a satisfactory, logical explanation and had come back into service with no additional mileage whatsoever since it had been "taken off the road". The author suggests this is nigh on impossible, as it would have had to have been driven (after repair) to check all was well. If not for repair, then why take a perfectly serviceable car out of use? This is very interesting, especially as he claims this info has been withheld by the P.J.

Edited to add - I  think it may have been slightly less than four weeks. The Lowes family claim to have holidayed between April 2nd and April 13th '07 and state that they hired the car on April 2nd although they do not state whether they kept it until the 13th.
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