Re: Roderick MacDonald, newest suspect in the McCann case (Daily Mail 15/10/14)

by joyce1938 16.10.14 14:54

Thanks doug that was the article I had seen ,I thought I could explain it better than I did ,good to read how it is from you joyce1938

by nglfi 16.10.14 15:06

I do wonder if back in 2007 when Madeleine 'disappeared', the McCanns intended her to become a poster girl for paedophile abuse victims everywhere. Every time I see a story about child sex abuse or an offender who has apparently been apprehended, in the UK or anywhere in the EU, poor little Maddie's picture is always somewhere on the page. It is incredibly bizarre when the only known link we have to paedophilia in this case, IMO is the Gasper statements and page 129 of the bewk which displays IMO a quite shocking attitude towards one's own child.

by jeanmonroe 16.10.14 15:21

http://ceop.police.uk/Documents/CEOP_AnnualReview_09-10.pdf

And with 'our' fav CEO, JG, in CHARGE! Right THERE at THAT exact time!

JIM GAMBLE, EX-CEO of CEOP = AVID, (some say completely 'obssesive' but i couldn't possibly comment on that!) PRO MCCANN 'SUPPORTER'

CINDY MARTIN, (AUTHOR OF LIFE THREATENING 'TWEETS' to BL BEFORE HER 'DEMISE') = AVID PRO MCCANN 'SUPPORTER'

Spot the er 'common' denominator.

The S&S book, MB and you so heavily 'invested' in, Big Jim, with your publicity for it, was a complete FAIL.

Perhaps you'd could co-author a 'book' about Madeleine's case, with Cindy Martin, your fellow PRO MCCANN 'SUPPORTER'!

Bit late for this Crimbo's best book 'sellers' though,!

by Joss 16.10.14 15:31

nglfi wrote:I do wonder if back in 2007 when Madeleine 'disappeared', the McCanns intended her to become a poster girl for paedophile abuse victims everywhere. Every time I see a story about child sex abuse or an offender who has apparently been apprehended, in the UK or anywhere in the EU, poor little Maddie's picture is always somewhere on the page. It is incredibly bizarre when the only known link we have to paedophilia in this case, IMO is the Gasper statements and page 129 of the bewk which displays IMO a quite shocking attitude towards one's own child.

I think this whole case is all about the McC's clearing their name of any involvement in Madeline's disappearance.
Poor Madeline. sad

by **PeterMac** 16.10.14 17:06

BlueBag wrote:
NickE wrote:Robinson WAS in Australia and N.Z from 2001-2009 he was arrested in Portugal 2010
Case study from CEOP page 29.
http://ceop.police.uk/Documents/CEOP_AnnualReview_09-10.pdf
Case closed.
Indeed.
Who is orchestrating this nonsense?

Is Gamble coming out and Denying it ? And if not, why not.
Here is page 29. It is quite clear, the second time you read it !
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by **PeterMac** 16.10.14 17:27

So the age range for "Suspects" and "persons of interest" is now 16 - 72
They may be
Alive or Dead
White, Swarthy, or Black
Men or Women (Thanks Edgar for making that clear !)
Have long or short hair (thanks Jane Tanner for making that clear )
Live in Portugal, Angola, Morocco, Devon, (remember him !) New Zealand, Australia, Belgium, Holland, The Vatican, The White House, various TV studies (depending where we are going to 'search' next)
Be a paedo***, or running a paedo*** ring, or a random burglar who forgot his script, or a couple with no children, or a raggle-taggle gypsy, or some cleaners, or a Charity collector . . .

I was taught that the idea was to "narrow the field' of suspects ! !

by Silverspeed 16.10.14 18:12

PeterMac wrote:So the age range for "Suspects" and "persons of interest" is now 16 - 72
They may be
Alive or Dead
White, Swarthy, or Black
Men or Women (Thanks Edgar for making that clear !)
Have long or short hair (thanks Jane Tanner for making that clear )
Live in Portugal, Angola, Morocco, Devon, (remember him !) New Zealand, Australia, Belgium, Holland, The Vatican, The White House, various TV studies (depending where we are going to 'search' next)
Be a paedo***, or running a paedo*** ring, or a random burglar who forgot his script, or a couple with no children, or a raggle-taggle gypsy, or some cleaners, or a Charity collector . . .

I was taught that the idea was to "narrow the field' of suspects ! !

Could be just about anyone then really, except of course the two most likely people.

by Dont Make Me Laff 16.10.14 18:27

IMO
If a certain person started divorce proceedings the case would be wrapped up
but
that person has too much to lose

eta
prefers the big house/job/income and everything that goes with it

Sofa hopping is encouraged
Physically SEARCHING is put on others
Taking payment for posters to distribute of a child younger than she was when she disappeared is just a money making scheme
and SICKENING

by margaret 16.10.14 18:33

PeterMac wrote:So the age range for "Suspects" and "persons of interest" is now 16 - 72
They may be
Alive or Dead
White, Swarthy, or Black
Men or Women (Thanks Edgar for making that clear !)
Have long or short hair (thanks Jane Tanner for making that clear )
Live in Portugal, Angola, Morocco, Devon, (remember him !) New Zealand, Australia, Belgium, Holland, The Vatican, The White House, various TV studies (depending where we are going to 'search' next)
Be a paedo***, or running a paedo*** ring, or a random burglar who forgot his script, or a couple with no children, or a raggle-taggle gypsy, or some cleaners, or a Charity collector . . .

I was taught that the idea was to "narrow the field' of suspects ! !

by Dont Make Me Laff 16.10.14 18:38

I was taught that the idea was to "narrow the field'

Same is important with sales

So why are they widening the field?

by Smokeandmirrors 16.10.14 18:53

PeterMac wrote:So the age range for "Suspects" and "persons of interest" is now 16 - 72
They may be
Alive or Dead
White, Swarthy, or Black
Men or Women (Thanks Edgar for making that clear !)
Have long or short hair (thanks Jane Tanner for making that clear )
Live in Portugal, Angola, Morocco, Devon, (remember him !) New Zealand, Australia, Belgium, Holland, The Vatican, The White House, various TV studies (depending where we are going to 'search' next)
Be a paedo***, or running a paedo*** ring, or a random burglar who forgot his script, or a couple with no children, or a raggle-taggle gypsy, or some cleaners, or a Charity collector . . .

I was taught that the idea was to "narrow the field' of suspects ! !

And £10,000,000 down the drain in the process, at a time where "cutbacks" are resulting in people not receiving certain medications thus hastening their death or preventing their cure, because there "ain't enough dosh in the pot". It sickens me to my core.

This total nonsense is making me lose heart in the case TBH, as I now sincerely believe that someone VERY high up is being protected with LINKS to this case. I don't mean culpable, but tied into what many of us suspect. In which case, the truth may never be made public, we can see how many interesting and damning pieces of information which warrant VERY serious investigation appear to be ignored, while ever increasingly stupid things are being put out in the media regarding fictional suspects.

Also, the Brenda Leyland situation has highlighted to those that care to look, that the most venomous bile has come from the McCann supporters, and so the media has dropped it like a hot potato. Add into the mix that her cause of death has not been made public and the picture becomes ever more murky.

The only thing this "case" has achieved so far is to demonstrate what a corrupt and disgusting mob currently pull the strings of power in our society. It's a two fingered salute, quite frankly, to those who have enough wits about them to see this sham for what it is.

by Guest 16.10.14 19:06

PeterMac wrote:So the age range for "Suspects" and "persons of interest" is now 16 - 72
They may be
Alive or Dead
White, Swarthy, or Black
Men or Women (Thanks Edgar for making that clear !)
Have long or short hair (thanks Jane Tanner for making that clear )
Live in Portugal, Angola, Morocco, Devon, (remember him !) New Zealand, Australia, Belgium, Holland, The Vatican, The White House, various TV studies (depending where we are going to 'search' next)
Be a paedo***, or running a paedo*** ring, or a random burglar who forgot his script, or a couple with no children, or a raggle-taggle gypsy, or some cleaners, or a Charity collector . . .

I was taught that the idea was to "narrow the field' of suspects ! !

Brilliant.

Any media person with a conscience should take this and run with it.

Or even Private Eye (who seem rather quiet).

by Dont Make Me Laff 16.10.14 19:37

BlueBag wrote:
PeterMac wrote:So the age range for "Suspects" and "persons of interest" is now 16 - 72
They may be
Alive or Dead
White, Swarthy, or Black
Men or Women (Thanks Edgar for making that clear !)
Have long or short hair (thanks Jane Tanner for making that clear )
Live in Portugal, Angola, Morocco, Devon, (remember him !) New Zealand, Australia, Belgium, Holland, The Vatican, The White House, various TV studies (depending where we are going to 'search' next)
Be a paedo***, or running a paedo*** ring, or a random burglar who forgot his script, or a couple with no children, or a raggle-taggle gypsy, or some cleaners, or a Charity collector . . .

I was taught that the idea was to "narrow the field' of suspects ! !
Live in Portugal, Angola, Morocco, Devon, (remember him !) New Zealand, Australia, Belgium, Holland, The Vatican, The White House, various TV studies (depending where we are going to 'search' next)
Be a paedo***, or running a paedo*** ring, or a random burglar who forgot his script, or a couple with no children, or a raggle-taggle gypsy, or some cleaners, or a Charity collector . . .
May I ask one question that Just may differentiate all of the above? does the perp have ginger hair?

that just might narrow it down

My hairis albino blond do I QUALIFY?

Any media person with a conscience should take this and run with it.

Or even Private Eye (who seem rather quiet).

Alive or Dead
White, Swarthy, or Black
Men or Women
White, Swarthy, or Black
Men or Women
Have long or short hair

by Guest 16.10.14 20:08

BlueBag wrote:
PeterMac wrote:So the age range for "Suspects" and "persons of interest" is now 16 - 72
They may be
Alive or Dead
White, Swarthy, or Black
Men or Women (Thanks Edgar for making that clear !)
Have long or short hair (thanks Jane Tanner for making that clear )
Live in Portugal, Angola, Morocco, Devon, (remember him !) New Zealand, Australia, Belgium, Holland, The Vatican, The White House, various TV studies (depending where we are going to 'search' next)
Be a paedo***, or running a paedo*** ring, or a random burglar who forgot his script, or a couple with no children, or a raggle-taggle gypsy, or some cleaners, or a Charity collector . . .

I was taught that the idea was to "narrow the field' of suspects ! !
Brilliant.

Any media person with a conscience should take this and run with it.

Or even Private Eye (who seem rather quiet).

Not that quiet, BlueBag, as PE has a snippet in the current edition on Best magazine's reporting of BL's tweets - "IS THIS BRITAIN'S SICKEST WOMAN?"

ETA: According to PE, the original coverline was: "McCANN TROLL: MAY SHE ROT IN HELL!"

by **PeterMac** 16.10.14 20:58

Two of these seem to have got through

On the Run British Paedophile . . . !
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In this article you give the clear impression that he might have been in the Algarve at the relevant time.

I am sure ONE of your journalists has realised that this is totally false.
In the CEOP annual report of 2009-1010
http://ceop.police.uk/Documents/CEOP_AnnualReview_09-10.pdf
at page 29 he is used as a case history, and this makes it clear that he was in New Zealand from 2001 - 2009

I trust you will be issuing a correction, (unless Clarence Mitchell instructs you to carry on with this ludicrous story !)

Yours sincerely
Peter Mac
retired Police Superintendent
**** 1972 - 2000

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by NickE 16.10.14 21:08

PeterMac wrote:Two of these seem to have got through

On the Run British Paedophile . . . !
Peter Mac 16:18 Photos
To: corey.charlton@dailymail.co.uk, c.charlton@dailymail.co.uk, [ both were rejected by MailerDemon !] corrections@mailonline.co.uk, editorial@dailymailonline.co.uk
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In this article you give the clear impression that he might have been in the Algarve at the relevant time.

I am sure ONE of your journalists has realised that this is totally false.
In the CEOP annual report of 2009-1010
http://ceop.police.uk/Documents/CEOP_AnnualReview_09-10.pdf
at page 29 he is used as a case history, and this makes it clear that he was in New Zealand from 2001 - 2009

I trust you will be issuing a correction, (unless Clarence Mitchell instructs you to carry on with this ludicrous story !)

Yours sincerely
Peter Mac
retired Police Superintendent
**** 1972 - 2000

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by sallypelt 16.10.14 21:43

Are the McCann's in Portugal? According to this video, they are:

https://au.news.yahoo.com/video/watch/25267662/sydney-link-to-mccann-mystery/?cmp=ytwit

by phil_burton 16.10.14 22:55

Interesting if they are.

I'd like to ask a question.

If, if, if... Gerry and Kate ever got a call to go back to be questioned... Do people ever wonder whether this news would actually see the light of day?

With Carter Ruck helping them, and the MSM just printing whatever Clarrie tells them to, it is plausible that this could be hushed up...do you not think?

by Naz_Nomad 16.10.14 23:14

If they are trying to fit up a convicted paedophile or whoever they might eventually pin it on, what happens at a trial?

Would the McCanns and their Tapas friends be brought in as witnesses? thinking

by phil_burton 16.10.14 23:25

Naz_Nomad wrote:If they are trying to fit up a convicted paedophile or whoever they might eventually pin it on, what happens at a trial?

Would the McCanns and their Tapas friends be brought in as witnesses?

This is why the whole thing is a farce - it would never get near a court because there's not a shred of evidence against anyone else but the parents and the Tapas 7.

Merely knowing someone was in the vicinity, or a sighting of them in the vicinity (which may be incorrect) is not enough to charge someone, let alone have it stand up in court.

Newspapers are 90% PR, they are paid to print stories about all sorts of companies, it's no different for this case. Everything you read in the MSM about this case has been placed there by interested parties.

What's really going on is anyone's guess. The early years were all about generating more cash for the fund, however, public opinion is on the turn now, there's only so long you can sell a lie before people stop caring, so stories appearing nowadays are purely reputation management, ensuring the finger is firmly pointing away from the Mccanns.

IMO every reputation management story of a new "suspect" is an indicator of when something else is happening, something that needs burying beneath another story.

by maebee 16.10.14 23:58

This is why the whole thing is a farce - it would never get near a court because there's not a shred of evidence against anyone else but the parents and the Tapas 7.

Merely knowing someone was in the vicinity, or a sighting of them in the vicinity (which may be incorrect) is not enough to charge someone, let alone have it stand up in court.

Newspapers are 90% PR, they are paid to print stories about all sorts of companies, it's no different for this case. Everything you read in the MSM about this case has been placed there by interested parties.

What's really going on is anyone's guess. The early years were all about generating more cash for the fund, however, public opinion is on the turn now, there's only so long you can sell a lie before people stop caring, so stories appearing nowadays are purely reputation management, ensuring the finger is firmly pointing away from the Mccanns.

IMO every reputation management story of a new "suspect" is an indicator of when something else is happening, something that needs burying beneath another story.

Well said phil_burton

IMO every reputation management story of a new "suspect" is an indicator of when something else is happening, something that needs burying beneath another story

We've had about 50+ "suspects" over the past seven and a half years. These (all very dodgy) suspects have always conveniently appeared when, as you say,something else is happening. Always at crucial times in the case. Is Snr. Amaral due in court sometime soon?

If SY are playing a clever game, someone should tell them that they are over-egging the pudding.

by jeanmonroe 17.10.14 0:13

Naz_Nomad wrote:If they are trying to fit up a convicted paedophile or whoever they might eventually pin it on, what happens at a trial?

Would the McCanns and their Tapas friends be brought in as witnesses?

"Witnesses" to WHAT, exactly?

thinking

by Geowoo 17.10.14 0:49

You can pile any amount of money into a case loaded against a character... For example .. The McCanns. But if the weight of circumstance...evidence..dogs..rogatories files..and senior Portuguese detectives say otherwise then you have a very serious case against you... Not guilty but not innocent either.

by jeanmonroe 17.10.14 0:58

Geowoo wrote:You can pile any amount of money into a case loaded against a character... For example .. The McCanns. But if the weight of circumstance...evidence..dogs..rogatories files..and senior Portuguese detectives say otherwise then you have a very serious case against you... Not guilty but not innocent either.

And NOT only senior Portuguese Police officers was it?

(p. 316.....madeleine)

In his statement to the Court, the Assistant Chief Constable of Leicestershire Police wrote: “While one or both of them (McCanns) may be innocent, there is no clear evidence that eliminates them from involvement in Madeleine’s disappearance”. Dr Kate: “We were completely staggered. No evidence to eliminate us?…that line stuck in our heads as ‘guilty until proven innocent’.” Dr McCann said they made ‘a tactical retreat’ to ‘accept a smaller amount of information’: “Having to withdraw was quite galling........"

UK police officer/s AS WELL!