Re: CRIMEWATCH RECONSTRUCTION - However, Kate and Gerry have banned the re-enactment of their daughter’s disappearance from taking place in Portugal through fear of angering the country’s police.

by susible 11.10.13 13:12

Hi Paddington, yes absolutely, I also wonder if the SY announcement was in an effort to see what the McCanns reaction would be, and of course they would not have been disappointed, what with all the media spin from the McCanns about people being arrested during the show etc (which SY denied) I imagine that SY have gleaned a lot of information about the McCanns modus operandi

Will Gerry smirk when SY hold up a new e-fit picture and talk about the possibility of Madeleine still being alive as he has done in the past when confronted with information about possible sightings? What about the ear tugging and nose scratching, will Mr and Mrs sit together grappling each others thighs as per their normal appearances? Will the police be watching them closely as they did with the Philpotts?

I really can't believe that SY are genuinely touting the McCanns theory, there is just too much publicly available information, which would make them look ridiculous, but the McCanns must also know that and be in a state of confusion right now...a recent press report stated they were baffled, which is a change from their "fury, pain, anguish, agony, rage etc" they are simply baffled...I'll bet they are (I know I am lol)

by Guest 11.10.13 13:39

Marconi have deleted your post. Also the reply quoting it.

by marxman 11.10.13 13:49

marconi wrote:check on McCannfiles. You can see the proaganda video of the BBC.
Redwood talks about "a revelation moment".

I noticed that 'revelation' word coined by Redwood, and I thought,
could this be some sort of code, in a biblical sense?
From the Book of Revelations, also described as the Apocalypse!
A hidden meaning to some?
He did say it WAS a revelation moment.

by cass7 11.10.13 14:26

think this crime watch has been done because of what is going off in portugal at min - but also the end of the review - they tried failed end off - nothing new move on - no need for a fund - because imo that is why the review started - we looked tried now close the fund

by Monty Heck 11.10.13 14:35

galena wrote:
aquila wrote:Redwood and the Jill Dando/Barry George wrongful arrest/incarceration debacle.

Jacqui Hames, MET police officer and Crimewatch presenter absolutely screwed over by the MET, the Press and BBC Crimewatch.

Redwood now going onto Crimewatch re Madeleine case with pre arranged media exposure to whip up an audience and announce an e-fit which may or may not be pertinent.
I'm guessing quite a lot of political pressure has been put on SY to come up with something to help the McCanns and they have managed to cobble something together from some hitherto unreported sighting of a 'suspect' - very likely something that has been discussed in these kind of forums. 'Suspect' for these purposes seems to cover any human being (probably male but not one of the Tapas 9) seen anywhere in the vicinity of the apartment at any time who might be considered to be a bit 'dodgy'. Once you ignore the (statistically most likely) theory that the parents and their associates were involved, it means that everyone else in the area is in the frame!

It is also statistically likely that one or more of the T9 would have seen the 'suspect' while they were bobbing back and forth from the Tapas that night. Going by their statements there were few other people around the apartments that night, JW being a notable exception, and not one reported seeing anyone suspicious that night, that day or indeed any other day. So will the tourists being called on in this appeal to report anything suspicious they witnesed, be able to come up with anything now when they could have reported this any time in the past 6 years, and when the T9 have testified there was nobody about and therefore it was all so safe?

by galena 11.10.13 14:42

Monty Heck wrote:
galena wrote:
aquila wrote:Redwood and the Jill Dando/Barry George wrongful arrest/incarceration debacle.

Jacqui Hames, MET police officer and Crimewatch presenter absolutely screwed over by the MET, the Press and BBC Crimewatch.

Redwood now going onto Crimewatch re Madeleine case with pre arranged media exposure to whip up an audience and announce an e-fit which may or may not be pertinent.
I'm guessing quite a lot of political pressure has been put on SY to come up with something to help the McCanns and they have managed to cobble something together from some hitherto unreported sighting of a 'suspect' - very likely something that has been discussed in these kind of forums. 'Suspect' for these purposes seems to cover any human being (probably male but not one of the Tapas 9) seen anywhere in the vicinity of the apartment at any time who might be considered to be a bit 'dodgy'. Once you ignore the (statistically most likely) theory that the parents and their associates were involved, it means that everyone else in the area is in the frame!
It is also statistically likely that one or more of the T9 would have seen the 'suspect' while they were bobbing back and forth from the Tapas that night. Going by their statements there were few other people around the apartments that night, JW being a notable exception, and not one reported seeing anyone suspicious that night, that day or indeed any other day. So will the tourists being called on in this appeal to report anything suspicious they witnesed, be able to come up with anything now when they could have reported this any time in the past 6 years, and when the T9 have testified there was nobody about and therefore it was all so safe?

I doubt the credibility of any 'sighting' remembered after all this time. I can barely remember the people I saw out and about yesterday let alone 6 years ago!

by nobodythereeither 11.10.13 15:38

paddinton wrote:
I wonder if the Crimewatch programme will actually be shown on Monday. It might just be a device, either to lull the suspects into a false sense of security, or to confuse them completely.

Of course it will be shown on Monday.

They're not going to these extraordinary lengths solely in order to lull or confuse the McCanns, what would be the point of that?

by susible 11.10.13 15:54

nobodythereeither wrote:
paddinton wrote:
I wonder if the Crimewatch programme will actually be shown on Monday. It might just be a device, either to lull the suspects into a false sense of security, or to confuse them completely.
Of course it will be shown on Monday.

They're not going to these extraordinary lengths solely in order to lull or confuse the McCanns, what would be the point of that?

What also would be the point of showing a story that directly conflicts the statements the McCanns themselves gave, statements that are available to everyone. Both the BBC and SY are currently desperately trying to save face after some serious scandals, neither can really risk being held to account for portraying wildly inaccurate material on a (inter)national tv show, which is supposed to deal only in facts.

They really would be digging themselves a massive hole if they are trying to use this to paint the McCanns as innocent, unless they truly do have some evidence that is a revelation imo.

by biggurllypants 11.10.13 16:01

Kate and gerry have banned the showing of the new show in Portugal !!!!!!! liar

The one place that has the answers to the disappearance of Maddy what

- What power have they???

They can ban anything from showing ANYWHERE in the world ???

by Guest 11.10.13 16:03

biggurllypants wrote:
Kate and gerry have banned the showing of the new show in Portugal !!!!!!! The one place that has the answers to the disappearance of Maddy - What power have they???

They can ban anything from showing ANYWHERE in the world ???

According to the papers they banned filming in Portugal so as not to upset the police IIRC. The Portuguese TV station said it had not been approached to show the programme.

ETA - these are the words.......

However, Kate and Gerry have banned the re-enactment of their daughter’s disappearance from taking place in Portugal through fear of angering the country’s police.

Instead they have allowed filming to go ahead in neighbouring Spain, with actors playing the roles of the anguished couple.

by Ayniia 11.10.13 16:05

susible wrote:
nobodythereeither wrote:
paddinton wrote:
I wonder if the Crimewatch programme will actually be shown on Monday. It might just be a device, either to lull the suspects into a false sense of security, or to confuse them completely.
Of course it will be shown on Monday.

They're not going to these extraordinary lengths solely in order to lull or confuse the McCanns, what would be the point of that?
What also would be the point of showing a story that directly conflicts the statements the McCanns themselves gave, statements that are available to everyone. Both the BBC and SY are currently desperately trying to save face after some serious scandals, neither can really risk being held to account for portraying wildly inaccurate material on a (inter)national tv show, which is supposed to deal only in facts.

They really would be digging themselves a massive hole if they are trying to use this to paint the McCanns as innocent, unless they truly do have some evidence that is a revelation imo.

Because only "us vile internet trolls " will notice the discrepancies, while the "good people " will support the "loving caring parents that done nothing wrong ".

by Sceptic 11.10.13 16:06

IMHO SY have created a link between Carole Tranmer sighting and
Annie Wiltshire and Jayne Jensen sighting

by tiny 11.10.13 16:07

well I am happy to be a vile internet troll,Madeleine is my first concern and I want to see justice for her

by MrsC 11.10.13 16:07

biggurllypants wrote:
Kate and gerry have banned the showing of the new show in Portugal !!!!!!! The one place that has the answers to the disappearance of Maddy - What power have they???

They can ban anything from showing ANYWHERE in the world ???

Now THAT is the question!

by ShuBob 11.10.13 16:10

Sceptic wrote:IMHO SY have created a link between Carole Tranmer sighting and
Annie Wiltshire and Jayne Jensen sighting

Well, it looks like it was Payne the sisters saw laughat

by nobodythereeither 11.10.13 16:12

candyfloss wrote:
biggurllypants wrote:
Kate and gerry have banned the showing of the new show in Portugal !!!!!!! The one place that has the answers to the disappearance of Maddy - What power have they???

They can ban anything from showing ANYWHERE in the world ???
According to the papers they banned filming in Portugal so as not to upset the police IIRC. The Portuguese TV station said it had not been approached to show the programme.

ETA - these are the words.......

However, Kate and Gerry have banned the re-enactment of their daughter’s disappearance from taking place in Portugal through fear of angering the country’s police.

Instead they have allowed filming to go ahead in neighbouring Spain, with actors playing the roles of the anguished couple.

That's surely just spin.

Kate and Gerry would not be in a position to "ban" something being produced by the BBC and SY, surely.

Nor would they be in a position to "allow" filming to go ahead anywhere.

If they are, then truly we may as well all just give up, because it is all rotten to the core.

by biggurllypants 11.10.13 16:23

Kate and Gerry would not be in a position to "ban" something being produced by the BBC and SY, surely.

Nor would they be in a position to "allow" filming to go ahead anywhere.

If they are, then truly we may as well all just give up, because it is all rotten to the core.

My point exactly so who is he puppet master IMHO Surely the best place to show this is in PORTUGAL where she was last known to be

Nothing makes any sense splat

by susible 11.10.13 16:23

Ayniia wrote:
susible wrote:
nobodythereeither wrote:
paddinton wrote:
I wonder if the Crimewatch programme will actually be shown on Monday. It might just be a device, either to lull the suspects into a false sense of security, or to confuse them completely.
Of course it will be shown on Monday.

They're not going to these extraordinary lengths solely in order to lull or confuse the McCanns, what would be the point of that?
What also would be the point of showing a story that directly conflicts the statements the McCanns themselves gave, statements that are available to everyone. Both the BBC and SY are currently desperately trying to save face after some serious scandals, neither can really risk being held to account for portraying wildly inaccurate material on a (inter)national tv show, which is supposed to deal only in facts.

They really would be digging themselves a massive hole if they are trying to use this to paint the McCanns as innocent, unless they truly do have some evidence that is a revelation imo.
Because only "us vile internet trolls " will notice the discrepancies, while the "good people " will support the "loving caring parents that done nothing wrong ".

That may have been the case in the past, but with the libel trial being made public and people realising that they can access all of the info on the internet, I do believe that things are changing. Even media outlets are opening up their comments and very few are supportive of the McCanns now. The fact that the McCanns have been in everyone's faces for the last 6 years, constantly begging for more help, I believe is starting to annoy the public and whilst many are still in the dark about the "simulated abduction" theory they are now expressing anger at the fact they left the children alone to go drinking, so Kate's We did nothing wrong is probably not going to go down well

by tiny 11.10.13 16:34

Just had a thought(I know, I know:biggrin: )what if this bbc crimewatch,is really showing us that it could NOT be an ABDUCTION

by susible 11.10.13 16:42

tiny wrote:Just had a thought(I know, I know:biggrin: )what if this bbc crimewatch,is really showing us that it could NOT be an ABDUCTION

Exactly Tiny, that could be a possibility, I've often thought that SY are working to eliminate every other possible scenario before turning back to the only real possibility imo

And of course it will be watched by millions blowing any support for the McCanns right out of the water.

by windchime 11.10.13 16:47

I wondered if SY are actually going to tell us that they have proof that poor little Madeleine is dead - it came as a big revelation. Is this why the two have been looking so terrible the last few months? Is this why there is no rush to put the e-fit and info out immediately as they have proof they cannot find her alive? Of course we all know this would not really have come as a big shock to the McCanns as they knew this all along BUT they have to play along now.
K & G will continue to push the fund though along the lines of - help us find who did this and the body. All in my opinion of course.

Another thing that just struck me about the statement regarding the revelation - is there a hidden message in this - biblical?

by biggurllypants 11.10.13 16:47

tiny wrote:Just had a thought(I know, I know:biggrin: )what if this bbc crimewatch,is really showing us that it could NOT be an ABDUCTION

Maybe they will have them all running round like headless chooks every 10 minutes they would have been falling over themselves ,how impossible their timeline was

Showing the shutters "jemmied " then not and gerry closing the shutters from the outside then a voice over saying they can only be shut from the inside:h u h: .

How dark the room was according to Kate and how Gerry could see Maddy wft

All the lies that have been told and all the contradictions ? notme

If it was my child i would want this show to be seen everywhere and anywhere i could the mccanns are kidding themselves if they think ppl in portugal wont be seeing this doco via the internet

by Ayniia 11.10.13 16:56

susible wrote: Kate's We did nothing wrong is probably not going to go down well

Spot on, I'm guessing that one sentence will haunt her for long... If they admitted that what they did was wrong, ok we did something wrong and we're paying for it... maybe they'd have some public sympathy, but by acting as arrogant as usual, well, we couldn't make that up even if we tried. People don't leave their children inside sleeping while actually dining in the house garden without at least a baby monitor, let alone while dining in a noisy restaurant 50mt away! Just let them keep talking and soon not even the media portraits of "anguished parents " will save them from public opinion.
All IMHO.

by Monty Heck 11.10.13 17:01

susible wrote:
tinye wrote:Just had a thought(I know, I know:biggrin: )what if this bbc crimewatch,is really showing us that it could NOT be an ABDUCTION
Exactly Tiny, that could be a possibility, I've often thought that SY are working to eliminate every other possible scenario before turning back to the only real possibility imo

And of course it will be watched by millions blowing any support for the McCanns right out of the water.

That's an interesting thought, but if SY/BBC were aware it couldn't be an abduction, they surely wouldn't need to film it then show it to the public in 4 countries including the UK? In such a scenario they would have to act first and round up suspects for possible death and disposal of a minor (because without an abductor there would be no other avenue to go down) and not waste time on some elaborate hoax to fool the McCs into a sense of false security. It may be incredible but it seems SY have very much pinned their colours to the abduction mast. Whether they really know what they are doing or not remains very much to be seen.

by tiny 11.10.13 17:07

It was wishfull thinking on my part,never mind

by Ayniia 11.10.13 17:10

Monty Heck wrote:
susible wrote:
tinye wrote:Just had a thought(I know, I know:biggrin: )what if this bbc crimewatch,is really showing us that it could NOT be an ABDUCTION
Exactly Tiny, that could be a possibility, I've often thought that SY are working to eliminate every other possible scenario before turning back to the only real possibility imo

And of course it will be watched by millions blowing any support for the McCanns right out of the water.
That's an interesting thought, but if SY/BBC were aware it couldn't be an abduction, they surely wouldn't need to film it then show it to the public in 4 countries including the UK? In such a scenario they would have to act first and round up suspects for possible death and disposal of a minor (because without an abductor there would be no other avenue to go down) and not waste time on some elaborate hoax to fool the McCs into a sense of false security. It may be incredible but it seems SY have very much pinned their colours to the abduction mast. Whether they really know what they are doing or not remains very much to be seen.

I'm right there with you Monty, for SY ( or any other LE ) what the public thinks or not shouldn't concern them. What should concern them.is that Madeleine's missing and it's their job to seek the truth and justice, not to go on TV to make revelations!

by biggurllypants 11.10.13 17:12

tiny wrote:It was wishfull thinking on my part,never mind

Who will be asking the mccanns the questions on the 14th and will the mccanns have had the questions and answers preapproved and scripted ? any ideas

by tiny 11.10.13 17:54

biggurllypants wrote:
tiny wrote:It was wishfull thinking on my part,never mind
Who will be asking the mccanns the questions on the 14th and will the mccanns have had the questions and answers preapproved and scripted ? any ideas

Oh yes,they wouldn't be doing this if they were going to be asked question that they don't know about, unless someone slips one in:biggrin:

by paddinton 11.10.13 17:58

With Crimewatch due to air on Monday and the trailer being shown, I would have expected quite a few Madeleine Mccann stories in the press and on TV, due to heightened interest - and yet there is next to nothing.

The media seems to be really, really quiet today on the Madeleine story. Could there be some sort of media blackout? And if so why?

by Guest 11.10.13 18:04

paddinton wrote:With Crimewatch due to air on Monday and the trailer being shown, I would have expected quite a few Madeleine Mccann stories in the press and on TV, due to heightened interest - and yet there is next to nothing.

The media seems to be really, really quiet today on the Madeleine story. Could there be some sort of media blackout? And if so why?

The media did their job a few days ago when the mccanns needed to hide what was coming from the defence witnesses in court imo. Going by their track record, next wave will be around 5th November.