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Post by david_uk 24.04.12 15:11

If it doesnt mention the dogs results in this documentry then its a washout as far as im concerned!.

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Post by russiandoll 24.04.12 15:14

very appropriate date for airing imo 30 april a special date in this saga. when something very dodgy happened.
and the repeat, 3rd May, the date when another dodgy thing happened.

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Post by friedtomatoes 24.04.12 15:16

Thanks for the welcome Jean and Candyfloss. I just typed a reply to you Jean and it vanished! Just to say the Daily Mail allow comments on this story but the Express and the Sun tend to almost always block comments.

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Post by Guest 24.04.12 15:28

By Victoria Ward

2:23PM BST 24 Apr 2012

Det Chief Insp Andy Redwood, who is leading the UK police hunt for the missing little girl, said his team was sifting through around 40,000 pieces of information with the sole aim of solving the case.

Madeleine was nearly four when she went missing from her family's holiday flat in Praia da Luz in the Algarve almost five years ago, on May 3 2007, as her parents Kate and Gerry McCann dined with friends nearby.

The official inquiry was formally shelved in July 2008 but Scotland Yard’s review of the case, called Operation Grange, was launched last year at the request of Theresa May, the Home Secretary, in response to a plea from the McCanns.

DCI Redwood said his team of 28 detectives and seven civilian staff was in the process of turning over “every single piece of paper” generated in the investigation and interpreting and analysing everything they contained.

He said: “Anything is possible, and clearly, within that material, the answer could lie."
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The team is drawing together information from three separate sources: Portuguese legal enforcement bodies, British legal enforcement agencies, which include the police, and the private investigations commissioned by Madeleine’s parents.

Asked why he believed the operation was unique, DCI Redwood told BBC Panorama: “Because at no time before have those three elements been drawn together in one place. And so what we’ve done over the past number of months is to bring to one place all those pieces of the jigsaw.”

He added: “I am satisfied that the systems and processes that we are bringing to this set of circumstances will give us the best opportunity to find those investigative opportunities that we can then present to our colleagues in Portugal.”

Operation Grange has so far cost the tax payer £2 million. Officers have made two trips to Spain and visited Portugal four times, most recently last week.

But while Portuguese police remain the lead agency on the case, DCI Redwood said his team in London aimed to solve the mystery.

“We are here in terms of seeking to bring closure to the case,” he said. “That would be the ultimate objective and is our ultimate objective. Closure means establishing what has happened to Madeleine McCann.”

Goncalo Amaral, the former detective who lead the original case before being removed after criticising British involvement, admitted making mistakes.

“It’s a fact that our investigation had its faults and lost a lot of time, lots of time,” he told the programme. “And a lot of things didn’t get followed up. And I’m just as much to blame for that as anyone else.”

Since leaving the police in 2008, Amaral has written a book and presented a DVD about Madeleine’s disappearance, in which he makes allegations against her parents, Mr and Mrs McCann, from Rothley, Leicestershire, who are now suing him for libel.

In March, a new team of detectives from Porto, northern Portugal, was brought in to re-examine the case, which the McCanns' Portuguese lawyer Rogerio Alves described as a "very positive sign".

The latest alleged sighting of Madeleine was made earlier this month in the Costa del Sol.

BBC Panorama – Madeleine: The Last Hope? will be shown on Wednesday April 25 at 7.30pm on BBC One

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“We are here in terms of seeking to bring closure to the case,” he said. “That would be the ultimate objective and is our ultimate objective. Closure means establishing what has happened to Madeleine McCann.”

That is a very interesting statement. Closure? How can they close the case if Madeleine is not found, these cases always remain open, I don't think they know where she is, so.................. thinking
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Post by friedtomatoes 24.04.12 15:40

candyfloss wrote:“We are here in terms of seeking to bring closure to the case,” he said. “That would be the ultimate objective and is our ultimate objective. Closure means establishing what has happened to Madeleine McCann.”

That is a very interesting statement. Closure? How can they close the case if Madeleine is not found, these cases always remain open, I don't think they know where she is, so.................. thinking

He said they want to establish what happened to her. It suggests that available evidence will be cited. Seeing as there is no evidence of an abduction, my guess is as good as yours.
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candyfloss wrote:Goncalo Amaral is on the programme Mrs

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Post by Invinoveritas 24.04.12 15:49

With reference to the Daily Telegraph/Victoria Ward article,

I wonder how many ppl. are going to tune in tomorrow at 19.30 to BBC 1? I think Rip off Britain is on at that time!

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PeterMac wrote:I can't make the pamalam site work. Has the address changed?

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Post by friedtomatoes 24.04.12 15:57

Invinoveritas wrote:With reference to the Daily Telegraph/Victoria Ward article,

I wonder how many ppl. are going to tune in tomorrow at 19.30 to BBC 1? I think Rip off Britain is on at that time!

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Post by friedtomatoes 24.04.12 15:59

candyfloss wrote:Goncalo Amaral is on the programme Mrs
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Post by Guest 24.04.12 16:01

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This tweet just up from Pamalam one minute ago.....

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Post by Guest 24.04.12 16:14

The article says..............

BBC Panorama – Madeleine: The Last Hope? will be shown on Wednesday April 25 at 7.30pm on BBC One

Has it been changed from the 30th April then?
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Post by Guest 24.04.12 16:17

I've just checked the BBC website for tomorrow at 19.30 and it says that Rip-off Britain is on then. I'll look again tomorrow to see if it's been changed. I think it's more likely to be an error though on the part of the journalist.
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Post by Guest 24.04.12 16:20

BBC own website still say Mon 30th April at 8.30



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Five years ago this week, Madeleine McCann disappeared from a family holiday apartment in the Algarve, Portugal. Why has the little girl, aged three when she went missing, never been found? Madeleine's parents, Kate and Gerry McCann, are adamant that their daughter was abducted by a predator. Frustrated by Portuguese police and public opinion that viewed them with suspicion, Madeleine's parents persuaded prime minister David Cameron to order a review of the case. Is this new investigation, by a top unit of the Metropolitan Police, the last chance of discovering what happened? For the first time, the senior UK investigator tells Panorama how he is working collaboratively with Portuguese police and explains why he believes he has the best opportunity yet to help solve the mystery of Madeleine McCann. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]


Five years ago this week, Madeleine McCann disappeared from a family holiday apartment in the Algarve, Portugal. Why has the little girl, aged three when she went missing, never been found? Madeleine's parents, Kate and Gerry McCann, are adamant that their daughter was abducted by a predator. Frustrated by Portuguese police... [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]


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Post by PeterMac 24.04.12 16:22

Jean wrote:I've just checked the BBC website for tomorrow at 19.30 and it says that Rip-off Britain is on then. I'll look again tomorrow to see if it's been changed. I think it's more likely to be an error though on the part of the journalist.
Error on the part of a journalist ! How disgraceful. How dare you purport such a ludicrous allegation, with no foundation.
There is no evidence that any journalist has committed an error.
There is an innocent explanation for anything a journalist might, or might not say.
Report yourself to Carter-Ruck immediately and take six of the best silver pieces you see in the chest in reception.
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Post by aiyoyo 24.04.12 16:31

Jean wrote:I've just checked the BBC website for tomorrow at 19.30 and it says that Rip-off Britain is on then. I'll look again tomorrow to see if it's been changed. I think it's more likely to be an error though on the part of the journalist.

OMG laugh laugh laugh "rip-off Britain" - my eyes were tricking me and I saw it as "ripping off Britain" for that moment thought - well, well, well, that's apt description of the mccanns behavior and truly believe the Programme tomorrow will be about them! daft1
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Post by Guest 24.04.12 16:33

Have to titter at the pros, this is the sort of thing they are saying on twitter............

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@JillyCL LOL LOL Amaral has caved in. Have you not heard the news. He says his investigation was incompetent. LOL #McCann


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Madeleine McCann: UK police 'seek to bring closure'


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The detective leading the UK review of Madeleine McCann's disappearance says they have the "best opportunity" yet to find the missing girl.

Det Ch Insp Andy Redwood told the BBC's Panorama his team were "seeking to bring closure to the case".

Madeleine, aged five at the time, went missing from a Portuguese holiday apartment five years ago this week.

The UK review began last May after Prime Minister David Cameron responded to a plea from Madeleine's parents.

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DCI Redwood told Panorama, his first interview since taking on the role, that solving Madeleine's disappearance is "the ultimate objective and is our ultimate objective".

His team of 28 detectives and seven civilian support staff are working their way through an estimated 40,000 pieces of information, including reports and documents from UK police, Portuguese police and private detectives hired by the McCanns.

He said one major advantage for Operation Grange is that for the first time it has access to all of the available evidence all in one place.

"At no time before have those three elements been drawn together in one place. And so what we've done over the past number of months is to bring to one place all those pieces of the jigsaw."

DCI Redwood believes the case could be solved by reappraising the documentary evidence.

"Clearly within that material, the answer could lie," he said.
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Officers have made two trips to Spain and visited Portugal four times, most recently last week.

A review of the procedures followed in the investigation is also under way in Portugal.

It is being conducted by officers in Porto, in northern Portugal, far away from the Algarve where Madeleine went missing.

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Portuguese public opinion has not been supportive of the parents of Madeleine, but DCI Redwood said he is finding no hostility from the Portuguese review team.

"Those officers are engaged, they are open, they are working with us collaboratively and I've not encountered with them any of those views."

But he said if the case is to be reopened, it is up to the Portuguese police.

"It is a sovereign decision for the Portuguese authorities. But obviously what we seek to do is to bring them the best quality information to assist them in making that decision."

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Post by Guest 24.04.12 16:45

I have merged your thread redrag with this one, as already being discussed here.
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Post by tuom 24.04.12 16:54

russiandoll wrote:very appropriate date for airing imo 30 april a special date in this saga. when something very dodgy happened.
and the repeat, 3rd May, the date when another dodgy thing happened.

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Post by redrag 24.04.12 16:56

Sorry candyfloss and thank you for merging.

I think the words of DCI Andy Redwood are very telling. The term "seek to bring closure" does not suggest a happy outcome, IMO.
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Post by ShuBob 24.04.12 16:57

From the BBC article linked by Redrag:

Madeleine, aged five at the time, went missing from a Portuguese holiday apartment five years ago this week.

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Post by Guest 24.04.12 16:58

Odd too that most articles always end with a "source" close to the family, or a spokesman or the pink one said.......... Not a mention Mrs
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Post by tuom 24.04.12 16:59

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