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Post by Verdi 02.03.21 12:28


The dates of Gerrys Sabbatical year in Amsterdam are important for my research, did he take this year off after the twins were born?

No, Gerry McCann his wife and daughter Madeleine moved to Amsterdam in January 2004 for one year for Gerry McCann's fellowship study.

Were they still living in Amsterdam up until maybe Sep 05?

No, they returned to England from Amsterdam at the beginning of December 2004. Gerry McCann went back to Amsterdam to complete the final two weeks of his study, then returned again to England.


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Post by Silentscope 02.03.21 12:28

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The PJ cleared him, even though the Tapas crew and other witnesses smeared him heavily. Not to mention the Press trial by Media!

How and if he was brought in, and then discarded is still open for discussion even now.

The Pawns always fall first?
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Post by Silentscope 02.03.21 12:36

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The dates of Gerrys Sabbatical year in Amsterdam are important for my research, did he take this year off after the twins were born?

No, Gerry McCann his wife and daughter Madeleine moved to Amsterdam in January 2004 for one year for Gerry McCann's fellowship study.

Were they still living in Amsterdam up until maybe Sep 05?

No, they returned to England from Amsterdam at the beginning of December 2004.  Gerry McCann went back to Amsterdam to complete the final two weeks of his study, then returned again to England.


Then there must be some other explanation for the events I am researching. 

Thank you Verdi.
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Post by Verdi 02.03.21 14:53

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Post by Guest 09.03.21 15:35

We should never lose sight of the fact that the very falsehood of the apportionment of blame the McCann's heaped upon themselves for leaving their children to dine with friends is instrumental and key to the success of the psychological lever deployed to anchor gullible minds firmly to the belief not only that the Tapas dining scenario was genuine but also in the other half of this co-dependant falsehood -  the narrative of abduction per se, paedophile or otherwise.

The reason for the success is that the stance taken alludes to the acceptance of complicity and compromise of some part played in the situation. It serves to garner empathy and shows a degree of vulnerability to the audience, all of which create the framework for a credible story like a glove-in-hand fit. The one allowed the other to happen.  On the face of it though it does as it was intended, and appears to be within the realms of possibility 

The ensnarement of the audience to the believability of these symbiotic halves of the same story relies heavily upon those cleverly crafted spun yarns being so articulately enmeshed to appear as entwined and inextricably linked to the notion of abduction as goods train and wagons - seamlessly trundling along together forevermore without question. 
 
All so beautifully orchestrated or so they thought.

  We should never underestimate the true extent of this artful work of masterful deceit that we bear witness to, one that has all the hallmarks of considerable preplanning over a matter of days not hours, it quickly became apparent that not was all it appeared and that this was no surprise abduction scenario, instead what it in fact was, was a scripted tall tale of two interdependent parts, more lie laden than Pinnochio's Adventures, and designed to be executed at will and with aplomb from inception. 
 
 Our mission thus remains steadfast in execution as we continue the unravelling of the McCann creation, to explode and dispel the myths, for that is what they are and dismantling and laying bare the co-dependent parts ie: The Tapas dining scenario that permitted the 'abduction' to occur and to expose the complete fabrication in its full and unbridled splendour.
 
The task ahead? To break the deadlock of the perpetual and relentlessly regurgitated, unsubstantiated, unevidenced, and frank absurdity of an unchallenged status quo narrative adopted by the mainstream media for the 13 years since Madeleine disappeared back in May 2007.

 All that remains now is for all else to be pushed aside and for evidenced-based theory to take centre stage and be afforded the long-overdue platform it so rightfully deserves. 

 The scales will fall from the eyes of the blinkered in the unveiling of the true story of a couple of sly foxes tales, and justice will be served in the name of their innocent 3-year-old firstborn daughter whose tragic disappearance at such a young age and before her life had barely begun, touched the world to the core in what must now rank amongst the most notorious case of a missing person in modern living history.
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Post by Lance De Boils 22.03.21 6:27

Good post, miffy8.
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Post by Verdi 22.03.21 11:23

All that remains now is for all else to be pushed aside and for evidenced-based theory to take centre stage and be afforded the long-overdue platform it so rightfully deserves.

In a nutshell....

And that is precisely what CMOMM has been doing since it's creation (Jill Havern singlerose ) twelve years ago.

And that is why CMOMM strives to debunk baseless theorizing and fantasy scenario here on the forum - unbelievably still being created and/or repeated after all these years!

Wake up coffee2 !

Reminds me, my mug's half empty ....

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Post by Guest 23.03.21 10:54

And that is precisely what CMOMM has been doing since it's creation (Jill Havern Leave No Stone Unturned - Page 17 247451480 ) twelve years ago.

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Post by CaKeLoveR 23.03.21 11:10

agree and I wish I had known of the forum 12 years ago.
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Post by KDG 20.07.21 6:39

Based on all the evidence and theories I'm aware of, I have to conclude that Maddie did not die before Thursday, May 3rd. It makes little sense to hide a body and then dispose of it some nights later. However, I suspect that Maddie may have sustained critical injuries before that date.

However, on a HiDeHo livestream, Paulumbo left a comment about the colour of the bedsheets on Maddie's bed. I wish I had kept a record of where the comment was left. But, he said that the bedsheets should have been blue, or something like that.

So, I immediately thought that maybe Maddie was injured earlier in the week, exactly as we already believe: she climbed up onto the window ledge and fell behind the couch, sustaining a head injury. She was then put in her bed to recover. But, she died from those injuries, and this probably happened on May 3rd.

So, not only was the body disposed of, but the sheets were changed. And the sheets were changed because as evidence, they could prove damning. This might also explain why there were supposedly no hair fibres on that bed.

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Post by PeterMac 20.07.21 7:43

The sheets were white. On BOTH Beds in the children's room and on both beds (pushed together to appear as one) in the parent's room.
White is the hotel standard for sheets and towels in rented property, as it can be washed at high temperature – with bleach – in industrial laundries in a big load from several apartments, and needs no special treatment.

Do you have any "evidence" that the sheets should have been BLUE ?
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Post by BlueBag 20.07.21 7:55

I've also thought that Madeleine was taken ill (for whatever reason) and died sometime later.

I think the story about Kate sleeping in the kids bedroom is part of that.

She was keeping an eye on her.
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Post by BlueBag 20.07.21 7:58

Interesting.
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Post by crusader 20.07.21 8:28

I thought it was a blue blanket, there is one on the other bed as well.
They are not using duvets, so a thin blanket would have been used.
There is also blue blankets on the parents bed.
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Post by Silentscope 20.07.21 10:16

Every statement or media report, even stories told in ‘Madeleine’ the book - lead the reader AWAY from Tuesday night.

The ‘Wayback’ Machine data.
Gerry buying sunglasses on Tuesday.
The Fenn crying report.
The ‘Chekaya’ incident.
The ‘last Photo’ by the Pool weather.

All most likely falsifications to serve one purpose.
To mislead from the true time of death.
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Post by Verdi 20.07.21 12:36

Forensic collections 4th May 2007

In this search the following was recovered:
- various hairs from the floor in the area of the doorway of the bedroom with two single beds from where the minor disappeared, they being placed inside a paper envelope in accordance with instructions issued by the Biology Section of the LPC and referenced as trace evidence [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.];

- various hairs from the floor area next to the bed where the missing child was sleeping, they being placed inside a paper envelope in accordance with instructions issued by the Biology Section of the LPC and referenced as trace evidence [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.];

- various hairs from the top of the bed where the missing child was sleeping, they being placed inside a paper envelope in accordance with instructions issued by the Biology Section of the LPC and referenced as trace evidence [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.];
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A search was also made for possible biological traces and fibres on the single bed from where the minor disappeared, using a variable-wave light source appropriate for the task, the result obtained having been negative.

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Post by Verdi 20.07.21 13:18

As regards the 'tragic accident' scenario, I see a major flaw.

Accidents happen all the time, why the need to go to such lengths to conceal?

The family were on holiday where, apart from their group of friends/acquaintances, they were unknown, there hourly movements could never be determined - proven by the fact that no one can say where they were, when they were ad/or why they were.

Under the given circumstances, an accident could be so easily explained, even if one, two or three of the children were sedated.  Which I've never believed to be the case by the way.

The parents, aided and abetted by their group, concocted a story of abduction, most likely associated with paedophilia and/or child trafficking - that has to be more difficult to maintain than a simple case of accidental death.

If they were to risk their lives through a charge of willful neglect as some people think to be likely, building the framework around an abduction scenario would be far more damning than a fatal accident.  

The parents openly admitted leaving their children alone every night to fend for themselves - you can't get much more neglectful than that, even if 'it felt so safe!'.

Unless of course there was a reason, a much more serious reason, why an accident was concealed.

The major problem with this case, there is so little evidence and what evidence there is has been carefully shrouded in doubt through the groups machinations, the media and the sticky fingers of the many interlopers!

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Post by Verdi 20.07.21 13:21

Then there was the cleaner ....

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Post by sandancer 20.07.21 15:54

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:I thought it was a blue blanket, there is one on the other bed as well.
They are not using duvets, so a thin blanket would have been used.
There is also blue blankets on the parents bed.


Definitely blue bedcovers , and blue and white checked curtains .

Not as Matt Oldfield says in his statement " green and yellow " ! Hmm !

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Post by Silentscope 20.07.21 16:16

If Matt was only able to see in the Bedroom because of the Street lighting coming in through the window, it may have been due to the Yellow light emitted from the Sodium bulbs outside, causing the colours to shift. 
The shutters would have to have been left open enough so the air holes between the slats let light in.

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