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Re: Operation Grange Update

Post by lj on 24.04.14 15:18

@Tony Bennett wrote:
@aiyoyo wrote:
The modus operandi of a whitewash is surely for it to be done clandestinely ensuring no one will be any wiser about the shadow hands involved in it.
aiyoyo, the reverse is often the case.

A cover-up, or whitewash, is often accomplished in the most high profile of circumstances and in the full glare of publicity.

The 'trick' is to bury all the embarrassing details about the case whilst at the same time giving every appearance of having done an honest and thorough investigation.

Take the initial enquiries into 'Bloody Sunday' which blamed Irish republicans for starting the shooting. It needed the Savile enquiry some 40 years later to establish the truth, when TWO previous and very public enquiries had whitewashed/covered up the role of the police (then the Royal Ulster Constabulary) in preciptating the killings.

Also look at the cover-up of the Dunblane killings of 15 children and a teacher. The very public Cullen report blamed the availability of hand guns for the murder of those children, and recommended it be illegal to hold them, whilst at the very same time covering up the fact that paedophile Thomas Hamilton had been allowed to keep his firearms, against the recommendation of a police Firearms Officer who filed an official report saying that he was unsuitable to retain his firearms certtificate.   

Because Hamilton provided boys for perverted senior police officers, senior members of the Scottish political establishment and others, Lord Cullen sealed the records for an almost unprecedented 100 years - and minimised (and all but eliminated all mention nof) the corruption which had allowed him to carry on his paedophilia unmolested by the Scottish police.

Likewise, Redwood's endless procession of almost unbelieveable statistics: thousands of actions, hundreds of lines of enquiry, tens of thousands of mobile phones, dozens of countires, hundreds of sex offenders to eliminate, tens of thousands of documents examined, dozens of suspects etc. etc. will allow the Met (if they can get away with it) to say, at the end of the day, that they have 'left no stone unturned' to find out the truth.

Indeed, and here they have an extreme opportunity to blame their failure on someone else: the Portuguese.

Just read the latest: they go to Portugal to "help" the Portuguese, not to have the very fortunate opportunity, under supervision of the Portuguese, to find out that another of their fireworks is a dud.

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Post by lj on 24.04.14 15:20

@AndyB wrote:And don't forget it would have been an entirely clandestine cover-up had the Portuguese not published the case files.

It still is. Nowhere in the media or in Andy's many shows it comes up that almost all what gives him an orgasmic revelation was already in the Portuguese files.

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Post by lj on 24.04.14 15:21

@AndyB wrote:
@Gillyspot wrote:Agreed.  Just look at Hillsborough & Bryn Estyn etc  if you need any more evidence that UK PLC do "coverups" - when it suits the establishment = NOT the victims!  sad1
So again I'm back to wondering what on earth it could be that the establishment want covered up

Stupidity. There is nothing so bad for your image as looking absolutely fooled by 2 mediocre doctors.

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Post by jeanmonroe on 24.04.14 16:32

What ACTUAL definition is there that constitutes a POT BELLY?

Definitive 'size'?

Definitive 'dimension' of a 'pot belly'?

Will the, now 19 year old, 'victim' from 2005 be with the UK Met 'elite' Maddie Cops, in Portugal, in the next two weeks, ready to 'identify' the 'pot bellied' man, lined up by the 'elites' at their ID 'parade' after they have 'cleared the beach' of all the sunbathing 'pot bellied' PERVERTS, in PDL?

"Take your time, luv, we can have them facing front or in profile, if you want. No pressure but number 5 looks slightly more 'pot bellied' than 4 and 7. Recognise any belly?"

Will DCI Redwood be billing the UK Government for the 38 TAPE MEASURES his 'elites' will be using in PDL in the next two weeks, measuring all the 'pot bellied men' holidaying there?

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Post by diatribe on 24.04.14 16:55

@jeanmonroe wrote:

 ready to 'identify' the 'pot bellied' man, lined up by the 'elites' at their ID 'parade' after they have 'cleared the beach' of all the sunbathing 'pot bellied' PERVERTS, in PDL?


They'll probably parachute a few in from their local pub to make up the numbers, Jean. They may even have a few Engerland footie fans lined up as back up.

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Post by PeterMac on 24.04.14 18:33

And don't forget we are looking for Pot-bellied-Smelly-Man
so they will need a couple of sniffer dogs  Mr 


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Post by plebgate on 24.04.14 21:34

I don't understand why a 10 yr old girl would not tell her parents about an attempted sexual assault on her by a smelly pot bellied man (or any other person).  She would have been so frightened, I am surprised her parents would  not have noticed and asked what had frightened/upset her.

How can arrests expect to be made shortly when they haven't even traced where the offender lives and as others have said, will have scarpered by now without leaving a forwarding address.   Like eveything else we have read thus far, it doesn't make sense.

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Re: Operation Grange Update

Post by Guest on 24.04.14 21:57

"Confusion is good", as GM said ...
IMO they're being played on by their own game.

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Post by russiandoll on 24.04.14 22:12

@plebgate wrote:I don't understand why a 10 yr old girl would not tell her parents about an attempted sexual assault on her by a smelly pot bellied man (or any other person).  She would have been so frightened, I am surprised her parents would  not have noticed and asked what had frightened/upset her.

How can arrests expect to be made shortly when they haven't even traced where the offender lives and as others have said, will have scarpered by now without leaving a forwarding address.   Like eveything else we have read thus far, it doesn't make sense.

  Plebgate.... according to Sky news yesterday this girl did tell her parents, this was iirc the incident which was reported to the holiday rep but not the police and as I have posted earlier one Portuguese news outlet has said that this was a rape.

 Whoever reported what at the time and to whom....[ confusion is good] ,  it is clear that since the incident, there was no additional report to police until approx. 9 years later.

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Post by petunia on 24.04.14 22:36

And this 10 year old must have been heavily sedated by her attacker for him to rape her, thus surely tearing her perfect genitals apart without mama and papa knowing nothing about it..BULLSHIT..

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Post by russiandoll on 24.04.14 22:57

Sky reported that the holiday rep was told of the assault. Portuguese press say this was a rape. Daily Fail report that the girl did not tell her parents at the time.

 So who told the holiday rep?

 We are meant to believe that a 10 year old did not tell her parents that a strange man sexually assaulted her in her bed while they were sleeping? And only after seeing CW decided to open up about her ordeal, kept secret for 9 years?

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Re: Operation Grange Update

Post by plebgate on 25.04.14 9:11

@russiandoll wrote:
@plebgate wrote:I don't understand why a 10 yr old girl would not tell her parents about an attempted sexual assault on her by a smelly pot bellied man (or any other person).  She would have been so frightened, I am surprised her parents would  not have noticed and asked what had frightened/upset her.

How can arrests expect to be made shortly when they haven't even traced where the offender lives and as others have said, will have scarpered by now without leaving a forwarding address.   Like eveything else we have read thus far, it doesn't make sense.

  Plebgate.... according to Sky news yesterday this girl did tell her parents, this was iirc the incident which was reported to the holiday rep but not the police and as I have posted earlier one Portuguese news outlet has said that this was a rape.

 Whoever reported what at the time and to whom....[ confusion is good] ,  it is clear that since the incident, there was no additional report to police until approx. 9 years later.
Thank RD.  Confused, yes I certainly am.  smilie

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Re: Operation Grange Update

Post by Guest on 25.04.14 10:37

A rhetorical question. Why is the patsy the Met has finally plumped for a paedophile? As opposed to a disturbed burglar, a bitter ex-OC employee or a freelance British cleaner?

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Post by Guest on 25.04.14 10:43

Dee Coy wrote:A rhetorical question. Why is the patsy the Met has finally plumped for a paedophile? As opposed to a disturbed burglar, a bitter ex-OC employee or a freelance British cleaner?
Maybe because from day dot the parents claimed it was a paedophile that abducted MBM and the Met are under orders to find a suitable paedophile patsy to back up the Mccann's theory.

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Post by Bishop Brennan on 25.04.14 13:04

Dee Coy wrote:A rhetorical question. Why is the patsy the Met has finally plumped for a paedophile? As opposed to a disturbed burglar, a bitter ex-OC employee or a freelance British cleaner?

SY have basically run several "straw men" in the media and all of them were rightly ridiculed. The motives they tried to pin on the burglars or ex-employees were absurd. The only one that got traction with the red tops and the public was the paedo patsy. Nobody could question it, the press could have a field day with it.

Having discovered the correct "motive" and profile, there was a brief attempt to link it the dead tractorman, but that again was just too ridiculous for the public. So now we have a serial sex attacker - a string of crimes to convince everyone, and the hunt is on.

Of course the chances are this smellyman doesn't exist at all. Or if he does, he will almost certainly be untraceable. For that reason we have the increase in anti PJ rhetoric, so that SY can bow out in a few months time, complaining that they could not make progress because of the bungling and obstructive PJ. Patsy identified but not caught; parents exonerated; politicians safe; PJ to blame. Job done. £10m well spent...

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Post by Guest on 25.04.14 13:28

@Bishop Brennan wrote:
Dee Coy wrote:A rhetorical question. Why is the patsy the Met has finally plumped for a paedophile? As opposed to a disturbed burglar, a bitter ex-OC employee or a freelance British cleaner?

SY have basically run several "straw men" in the media and all of them were rightly ridiculed. The motives they tried to pin on the burglars or ex-employees were absurd.  The only one that got traction with the red tops and the public was the paedo patsy. Nobody could question it, the press could have a field day with it.  

Having discovered the correct "motive" and profile, there was a brief attempt to link it the dead tractorman, but that again was just too ridiculous for the public. So now we have a serial sex attacker - a string of crimes to convince everyone, and the hunt is on.  

Of course the chances are this smellyman doesn't exist at all.  Or if he does, he will almost certainly be untraceable. For that reason we have the increase in anti PJ rhetoric, so that SY can bow out in a few months time, complaining that they could not make progress because of the bungling and obstructive PJ.   Patsy identified but not caught; parents exonerated; politicians safe; PJ to blame. Job done. £10m well spent...  
They may think it will work out like that. However, if the Smelly and unshaven bur nevertheless aftershave-favouring (?) paedophile does actually exist at all, and indeed, if all the recently publicised crimes are going to be attributed to him, then surely his defence barrister is going to have a field day with all the anomalies apparent between the other alleged crimes and that relating to Madeleine. It won't be over til the fat man (or at least the fat man's barrister) sings and is heard.

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Post by aquila on 25.04.14 13:30

MILLIE wrote:
@Bishop Brennan wrote:
Dee Coy wrote:A rhetorical question. Why is the patsy the Met has finally plumped for a paedophile? As opposed to a disturbed burglar, a bitter ex-OC employee or a freelance British cleaner?

SY have basically run several "straw men" in the media and all of them were rightly ridiculed. The motives they tried to pin on the burglars or ex-employees were absurd.  The only one that got traction with the red tops and the public was the paedo patsy. Nobody could question it, the press could have a field day with it.  

Having discovered the correct "motive" and profile, there was a brief attempt to link it the dead tractorman, but that again was just too ridiculous for the public. So now we have a serial sex attacker - a string of crimes to convince everyone, and the hunt is on.  

Of course the chances are this smellyman doesn't exist at all.  Or if he does, he will almost certainly be untraceable. For that reason we have the increase in anti PJ rhetoric, so that SY can bow out in a few months time, complaining that they could not make progress because of the bungling and obstructive PJ.   Patsy identified but not caught; parents exonerated; politicians safe; PJ to blame. Job done. £10m well spent...  
They may think it will work out like that. However, if the Smelly and unshaven bur nevertheless aftershave-favouring (?) paedophile does actually exist at all, and indeed, if all the recently publicised crimes are going to be attributed to him, then surely his defence barrister is going to have a field day with all the anomalies apparent between the other alleged crimes and that relating to Madeleine. It won't be over til the fat man (or at least the fat man's barrister) sings and is heard.
The show's not over 'til the fat belly sings.

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Post by Bishop Brennan on 25.04.14 14:13

I suspect that if he is "found" he will be dead. Otherwise we should settle in for a long search! Perhaps a website and wristbands?  thumbsup 

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Post by annysmithgold on 25.04.14 14:16

@aquila wrote:
MILLIE wrote:
@Bishop Brennan wrote:
Dee Coy wrote:A rhetorical question. Why is the patsy the Met has finally plumped for a paedophile? As opposed to a disturbed burglar, a bitter ex-OC employee or a freelance British cleaner?

SY have basically run several "straw men" in the media and all of them were rightly ridiculed. The motives they tried to pin on the burglars or ex-employees were absurd.  The only one that got traction with the red tops and the public was the paedo patsy. Nobody could question it, the press could have a field day with it.  

Having discovered the correct "motive" and profile, there was a brief attempt to link it the dead tractorman, but that again was just too ridiculous for the public. So now we have a serial sex attacker - a string of crimes to convince everyone, and the hunt is on.  




Of course the chances are this smellyman doesn't exist at all.  Or if he does, he will almost certainly be untraceable. For that reason we have the increase in anti PJ rhetoric, so that SY can bow out in a few months time, complaining that they could not make progress because of the bungling and obstructive PJ.   Patsy identified but not caught; parents exonerated; politicians safe; PJ to blame. Job done. £10m well spent...  
They may think it will work out like that. However, if the Smelly and unshaven bur nevertheless aftershave-favouring (?) paedophile does actually exist at all, and indeed, if all the recently publicised crimes are going to be attributed to him, then surely his defence barrister is going to have a field day with all the anomalies apparent between the other alleged crimes and that relating to Madeleine. It won't be over til the fat man (or at least the fat man's barrister) sings and is heard.
The show's not over 'til the fat belly sings.

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Re: Operation Grange Update

Post by jeanmonroe on 25.04.14 16:05

@Bishop Brennan wrote: 
Of course the chances are this smellyman doesn't exist at all.  Or if he does, he will almost certainly be untraceable. For that reason we have the increase in anti PJ rhetoric, so that SY can bow out in a few months time, complaining that they could not make progress because of the bungling and obstructive PJ.   Patsy identified but not caught; parents exonerated; politicians safe; PJ to blame. Job done. £10m well spent...  

All very well ..........UNTIL............those darn pesky Portuguese release their second (joint?) 'investigation' FILES to a world wide 'audience'!

Then we'll know exactly WHICH Police force has/had been er, 'un-cooperative'.

26 'meetings' and counting, so far, all on record, between the Met and PJ.

I can't wait!

PJ: "We prefer not to discuss this with Superintendent Stuart Prior: (Leicester Police) we have the impression that he is only here to accompany the McCanns' interrogations and to prevent their detention. His concern on that subject is obvious."

eta; Superintendent Stuart Prior, LP, in his wildest dreams, NEVER thought his erm, umm,'behaviour' in the first 'investigation' would ever see the light of day!

! hope DCI Redwood, Met Police, is not harbouring the same 'dreams' as Leicestershire Police Officer, Superintendent Stuart Prior was!

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