CRIMEWATCH Update on MadeleineMcCann case tonight 19th March

ChippyM wrote:This man according to the reports 'walked away calmly' when discovered. So the 3 burglars that panicked theory is completely invalidated.

It also doesn't seem clear that this man was a single person, the cases are 'thought' to be similar.

I'm hoping this is the media spinning something SY have said and not SY doing the spinning.

HelenMeg wrote:

plebgate wrote:

dantezebu wrote:From the guardian:
Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood, in charge of the hunt for Madeleine, accepted there were differences between these cases and that of Madeleine's disappearance but added that there was a possibility that Madeleine had not left her family's holiday apartment alive when she disappeared in May 2007.

Redwood said the assumption that Madeleine had been alive "may not follow with all our thinking" on the case.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/19/madeleine-mccann-police-intruder-girls-algarve

Thsi is the only significant news IMO.
It seems Redwood is taking the dog indications into account.

Well it looks that way Dantezebu and he says there are differences between those cases and that of Maddies.    Having read this, I am still cautiously optimistic that  Mr. Redwood is keeping all options open.

It seems that Redwood is taking a gentle step - by step approach, as predicted by some.  He is gradually introducing the idea gently to the UK public that Madeleine dies in the apartment.
This has been predicted by Textusa and subsequently by some in this forum.  Their brief is to gently bring into play that the girl died in the apartment (IMO) . This is a significant move - a cause for cautious optimism.
Once established that she died - they can then get to where they need to be - to the real perpetrators.

jeanmonroe wrote:Looks like Pinkie's been 'abducted' from BBC News!

lj wrote:

Doug D wrote:This has just been added to the Met Police Press page following the press briefing:

Adding to the statement issued earlier today, DCI Andy Redwood said at the subsequent media briefing:

“In six of the 12 potentially linked offences the suspect either sat or lay on the bed, before committing the sexual assault in four of those cases (where there were five actual victims). In nine of the 12 cases there was no forced entry or stolen property; and where there was it was minimal. 

“Nine of these offences were reported to police at the time (including the four where there had been a sexual assault); two were reported to a holiday rep and then subsequently to the authorities back in the UK; and one was not reported at the time. 

“In terms of the ongoing investigation, we have submitted three International Letters of Requests (ILORs) to date, consisting of 41 priority areas of work, which in turn contain 287 separate requests. There will be further ILORs to come to ensure that we bring our complete investigation to the Portuguese and they include our multiple priority lines of inquiry.

“We have also submitted 30 ILORs to other countries to assist our inquiries. The team has taken over 500 statements and the process itself has raised 5569 actions.

“Within the investigation we have identified 60 persons of interest, of which we have been able to discount 22. We are still working on the remaining 38, which are at various stages of completion.

“In addition to persons of interest we are aware of 530 sex offenders from the UK and elsewhere whose whereabouts are unaccounted for. These have been broken down into high, medium and low priority. 59 are currently considered high priority; and some of those have also been declared persons of interest.

“There have been 26 visits to Portugal at both a strategic and tactical level; and officers have travelled to and worked with the authorities from Spain, Belgium, Jersey, Switzerland, Holland and Germany; as well as colleagues from across the UK.” 


I think my previously stated 'ray of hope' about eliminating everybody else in order to eventually 'prove the circumstantial' can be discarded, because with these figures it's never going to happen, not in our lifetimes anyway.

Oh, he just needed another couple millions.

No problem.

jeanmonroe wrote:This is, from DCI Redwood, a 'sheer panic, rabbit caught in the headlights' response to GA interview.

He's absolutely 'cacking his pants' that GA is one person he CANNOT 'control'

He is 'cacking his pants' that a foreign 'whistle blower' (current, EX PJ?) will expose his, and the corrupt ridden Met's, utter incompetence/non cooperation in this hugely expensive, taxpayer funded, 'investigation'

All , imo, obviously.

dantezebu wrote:From the guardian:
Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood, in charge of the hunt for Madeleine, accepted there were differences between these cases and that of Madeleine's disappearance but added that there was a possibility that Madeleine had not left her family's holiday apartment alive when she disappeared in May 2007.

Redwood said the assumption that Madeleine had been alive "may not follow with all our thinking" on the case.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/19/madeleine-mccann-police-intruder-girls-algarve

Thsi is the only significant news IMO.
It seems Redwood is taking the dog indications into account.

Tony Bennett wrote:BREAKING MADELEINE MCCANN NEWS:

Evening Standard, a few minutes ago:




Hunt for sex fiend who assaulted five young British girls on holiday in the Algarve

Detectives probing the disappearance of Madeleine McCann revealed today they are hunting a sex fiend who assaulted five other young British girls on holiday on the Algarve.

In a sensational development, Scotland Yard announced officers are investigating 12 potentially linked crimes in holiday resorts near to where Madeleine vanished in 2007.

In every case a man broke into mainly holiday villas occupied by British families -—and in four of them he assaulted five young white girls aged seven to 10 as they lay in bed. On one occasion he assaulted two girls in the same villa.

Many of the attacks were between 2004 and 2006, which was the year before Madeleine went missing from her bed in a holiday apartment in Praia de Luz. The most recent break-in was reported in 2010.

Police say that while the crimes are not identical, most are similar. There were no signs of forced entry, nothing was taken and the intruder appeared between 2am and 5am.

Most of the offences took place in the low season and on two occasions people reported hearing the noise of a bin collection lorry nearby.

Detectives believe that the suspect may have been in a villa looking around “for some time” before committing the offences.

In some cases the parent or the child woke up and disturbed the intruder but police say the man stayed calm even when confronted.

Of the 12 cases, two occurred in Praia de Luz — where Madeleine was staying when she disappeared — four in the holiday resort of Carvoeiro and six in the Vale da Parra and Praia da Gale districts west of Albufeira.

Detectives believe there could be more cases of similar crimes where victims’ families did not bother to report them to police. They urged those people to come forward and released an image of a distinctive red T-shirt linked to the hunt.

Madeleine was three when she vanished from her holiday apartment as her parents Kate and Gerry dined at a nearby tapas restaurant with friends in May 2007.



This distinctive red hooped t-shirt is linked to the hunt

whatliesbehindthesofa wrote:What's more - if Madeleine died in 5A, then the disappearance of the body needs to be explained.  I don't think it's much of a leap from that to the involvement of the McCanns.

SixMillionQuid wrote:

Andrew77R wrote:

tiny wrote:Im sorry but this is another load of bollox from sy,they have the culprits at there finger tips and they are still chasing these make believe people

whitewash any one.

Certainly looking that way.

After reading GA's interview i naively felt extremely encouraged that the 'net' at last could be closing.

Now feeling utter despair at the new crock that's coming out. Christ almighty. What the hell are AR and SY playing at. 

Absolute disgrace.

I think GA's interview has highlighted that there was a lot political influence that forced him of the case, leading to the situation we're in now. I think he's 110% correct.

The man Operation Grange is looking for now never abducted a child. It's clear that he checked on children's passports to see if they were British and if one wasn't available he conducted an on the spot English test.

lj wrote:

dantezebu wrote:From the guardian:
Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood, in charge of the hunt for Madeleine, accepted there were differences between these cases and that of Madeleine's disappearance but added that there was a possibility that Madeleine had not left her family's holiday apartment alive when she disappeared in May 2007.

Redwood said the assumption that Madeleine had been alive "may not follow with all our thinking" on the case.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/19/madeleine-mccann-police-intruder-girls-algarve

Thsi is the only significant news IMO.
It seems Redwood is taking the dog indications into account.

That's a special kind of abductor then: abducting dead bodies.

Doug D wrote:This has just been added to the Met Police Press page following the press briefing:

Adding to the statement issued earlier today, DCI Andy Redwood said at the subsequent media briefing:

“In six of the 12 potentially linked offences the suspect either sat or lay on the bed, before committing the sexual assault in four of those cases (where there were five actual victims). In nine of the 12 cases there was no forced entry or stolen property; and where there was it was minimal. 

“Nine of these offences were reported to police at the time (including the four where there had been a sexual assault); two were reported to a holiday rep and then subsequently to the authorities back in the UK; and one was not reported at the time. 

“In terms of the ongoing investigation, we have submitted three International Letters of Requests (ILORs) to date, consisting of 41 priority areas of work, which in turn contain 287 separate requests. There will be further ILORs to come to ensure that we bring our complete investigation to the Portuguese and they include our multiple priority lines of inquiry.

“We have also submitted 30 ILORs to other countries to assist our inquiries. The team has taken over 500 statements and the process itself has raised 5569 actions.

“Within the investigation we have identified 60 persons of interest, of which we have been able to discount 22. We are still working on the remaining 38, which are at various stages of completion.

“In addition to persons of interest we are aware of 530 sex offenders from the UK and elsewhere whose whereabouts are unaccounted for. These have been broken down into high, medium and low priority. 59 are currently considered high priority; and some of those have also been declared persons of interest.

“There have been 26 visits to Portugal at both a strategic and tactical level; and officers have travelled to and worked with the authorities from Spain, Belgium, Jersey, Switzerland, Holland and Germany; as well as colleagues from across the UK.” 


I think my previously stated 'ray of hope' about eliminating everybody else in order to eventually 'prove the circumstantial' can be discarded, because with these figures it's never going to happen, not in our lifetimes anyway.

Châtelaine wrote:Coming back t the computer, I found a 19 pages on this subject, so haven't read it all yet.

Could someone, please, direct me again to the link, where I can watch BBC1 whilst living in France?
[I promise, that this time I will take proper note and remember ...]

ETA I take it that K&G will not be present tonight ... ?

dantezebu wrote:From the guardian:
Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood, in charge of the hunt for Madeleine, accepted there were differences between these cases and that of Madeleine's disappearance but added that there was a possibility that Madeleine had not left her family's holiday apartment alive when she disappeared in May 2007.

Redwood said the assumption that Madeleine had been alive "may not follow with all our thinking" on the case.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/19/madeleine-mccann-police-intruder-girls-algarve

Thsi is the only significant news IMO.
It seems Redwood is taking the dog indications into account.

• there were no signs of forced entry to the property,
  
• nothing was taken,
  
• and the intruder appeared in the early hours of the morning between 02.00hrs and 05.00hrs
  
  

tasprin wrote:DCI Redwood has discounted Tannerman and the 9.15 timeline. The focus is on the time between 9.40 - 10 pm. SY are still looking for Smithman and now they think there is a possibility Madeleine did not leave the apartment alive:

'there was a possibility that Madeleine had not left her family's holiday apartment alive when she disappeared in May 2007.

Redwood said the assumption that Madeleine had been alive "may not follow with all our thinking" on the case'

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